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All Things iPhone

With the iPhone release coming soon there is no shortage of stories being submitted. Here is an overview of all of its features and specifics on its technical workings. A list of applications is out and still growing. There are warnings however that some applications and peripherals won't be ready or compatible in time for the release. Finally with all the hype associated with the iPhone, we have a reminder of some previous Apple products that ended with a whimper instead of a roar.

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  1. You ain't just whistlin' dixie... by Ub3rT3Rr0R1St · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the iPhone release coming soon there is no shortage of stories being submitted. No shortage?! That's a gross understatement. I think I have just been convinced by this latest iPhone plug that things are going overboard.

    We know the features, we know the controversy, we know EVERYTHING.

    Just let the damn thing come. This is more than gratuitous splurge on a product. It's downright unnecessary.
    I'm looking forward to this thing as much as the next guy, but come on, enough with the iPhone articles. It's getting redundant.

  2. Enough is Enough by kaos07 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think I speak for a lot of people of when I say that we're sick of hearing about the bloody iPhone. Who cares if it's super-dooper good, it's just another phone.

  3. Shlashdot's free pub by cuby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm starting to be a little tired of so many articles (free pub) about the iPhone... It seems it's going cure even global warming!
    Someone remembering all the pre-noise about PS3 and the reality after Nintendo kicked it's ass?

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  4. Re:Will it by ruiner13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, but the video link that is up on CNN/Money right now is speculating that it might land you a date.

    As an Apple fan, even I am finding the level of coverage of this thing to be ridiculous. There are no less than 5 headlines about the iPhone on that page alone. The #*$(# thing isn't even out yet! For this much hype, you'd think it came with 3 5-star hookers and a brick of cocaine straight from colombia.

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  5. Echo of products past by davmoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    with all the hype associated with the iPhone

    The more hype I see and hear about the iPhone, the more it reminds me of the hype surrounding the Segway.

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    1. Re:Echo of products past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The more hype I see and hear about the iPhone, the more it reminds me of the hype surrounding the Segway
       
      Except, you know, people actually want the iPhone and cell phones are useful. Who actually wanted a Segway and thought it would be good for more than looking like a sidewalk surfing idiot.

  6. But will it talk to my car? by Jay+Maynard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are two deal-breakers for me with the iPhone: It has to sync with Exchange directly (no, not just IMAP, but calendaring as well), and it must work with my car's Bluetooth module. The former is because that's the only way I'll get my boss to let me get one instead of a Blackberry; the latter is because no $600 phone, no matter how insanely great, will get me to get rid of a $45K car.

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    1. Re:But will it talk to my car? by fredmosby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A real keyboard

      None of the other phones come with a real keyboard either.

    2. Re:But will it talk to my car? by frdmfghtr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      - Instant Messaging - Picture messages (MMS)
      Why would you need either of those with an internet connection? Why pay 25 cents for a stupid MMS message when you can just send a friggin email?
      Because the recipient is receiving the MMS on a cellphone.
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    3. Re:But will it talk to my car? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Versus the 2.5mm stupid-ass jack on Windows Mobile devices? I'll take my chances with the fully standard minijack.

      sorry? my windows mobile phone has got a standard 3.5mm jack and i use my sennheiser headphones with it.

      Why would you need either of those with an internet connection? Why pay 25 cents for a stupid MMS message when you can just send a friggin email?

      because it is a "friggin" phone and it should be able to communicate with other phones, not only with computers. gsm phones can do messaging for lots and lots of years and a brand new phone can't? ridiculous.

      I'm sure the battery will be replaceable for anyone with five minutes, just like the iPod is now.

      in other phones the battery can be replaced within seconds. it can be very practical to keep more than one battery at home and swap when you have the need.

      It's just a handheld electronic device.

      it is a too much hyped electronic device which promises lots, but cannot do even the basic stuff. my base of comparison is my htc universal which is very practical. it is a full featured gsm phone with umts support, sms, mms, java mobile and so on (and i can even use different sim cards with it). i can play games with it - even doom and duke nukem 3d, synchronise with outlook, listen to music (mp3, ogg, whatever) without being limited by the memory (sd card slot), watch movies, use gps navigation, use remote desktop to connect to my computer, instant messaging (icq, msn, yahoo, jabber, you name it), i have a choice between at least 3 different web browsers, read books, edit pictures i made with my camera and so on and so on. i can even run linux on it if i want to and it also does have a keyboard. you see, it is about choice. slashdot used to be about choice, but not anymore, i suppose.

      if a software can be developed for a handheld device, then the device can be very practical and multifunctional. but when a pda is intentionally limited to a couple of functions then it is crap, in this case, a high priced lifestyle crap. i don't care much about the interface, i want to use the device.
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  7. Re:All I want to know about the iPhone.... by Kalriath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WillItBlend is a site run by a blender company, Blendtec. They have successfully blended some iPods in their blender (they always use the same one, and it's actually just a consumer grade one) before.

    Oh, and because mentioning blending iPods in a blender WILL get you -10,000,000 Overrated (to dodge metamoderation!) here on Slashdot, they HAVE also blended Windows CDs. They make a really cool sparkly powder (over-expensive glitter?), though I still think microwaving CDs is way cooler.

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  8. Re:Will it by ruiner13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only 2 more days and the wait will be over... the wait for everyone to stop posting their random idiotic speculation about how good/bad/shiny it's going to be! Yeah, then it will only be "hands-on" reports and stories about how someone figured out how to crack the OS and load software while it is docked (which I don't doubt you'll be able to do unless Apple physically separated the OS part of the drive from the iPod part). I don't see any shortage of stories on it for at least a month.
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  9. Why some of us are excited about iPhone by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know I may be late to the party here with 44 coments already posted, but for all you naysayers, here is why we are excited about the iPhone:

    The bar is being raised right now for the cellphone industry, and being raised well.
    This is the industry that has bent us over for so long, with unusable features, overpriced gadgets that don't deliver on what they promised, and ease of use of a manual lawn-mower.

    No, iPhone is not the cure for cancer, but it is making the cell manufacturers and networks change the way they do their business.
    After months of being out on the market, the "Chocolate" cellphone will get capability to have songs transfered from the computer. This is not a win for Apple, but a win for the consumer, who without Apple was at the mercy of PHBs and middle management making decisions about how their cellphones should work.

    This happened at least one time before... Remember what happened to Exploder once FireFox came out? Oh, well crap, yeah, here's your IE 7 all of a sudden, sorry you had to endure 7 years of exploder 6, no tabs, millions of infections and popups, but we really thought that's what the consumers wanted.

    Like I said, the bar is being raised, and it's good to see Nokia, Motorolla and especially the carriers bend over and take it where the sun don't shine from Apple.

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    1. Re:Why some of us are excited about iPhone by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is the industry that has bent us over for so long, with unusable features, overpriced gadgets that don't deliver on what they promised, and ease of use of a manual lawn-mower. This is just hilarious. You can't judge if a product delivers on its promises before it's been delivered. And apparently, the solution to expensive gadgets an even more expensive gadget!
    2. Re:Why some of us are excited about iPhone by olddotter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. I'm not going to go out an buy one day one, but for YEARS I have wanted Apple to get into the cell phone market. The reason is simple, each generation of new cell phones just prove that user interfaces can get worse .

        Every new phone I have gotten has been harder and harder to use. Apple knows how to make a simple user interface. I want that in a phone. And even if I never buy and Apple, because they are in the market others will be forced to think about the user interface. That is a huge win for me.

    3. Re:Why some of us are excited about iPhone by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, iPhone is not the cure for cancer, but it is making the cell manufacturers and networks change the way they do their business.

      A device you can't run third-party software on, which must be purchased with an overpriced plan on a two year contract, and despite the gigs of music you may have installed on it, you'll have to pay a separate fee to turn each one into a ringtone?

      They're changing who with the what now?

    4. Re:Why some of us are excited about iPhone by imputor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the PPC-6700 which has been around for a while now can do most of that. Sorry, but I have the PPC-6700 and it came with the WORST case of buyer's remorse that I have ever had on ANY gadget in the history of me buying gadgets. It's a piece of shit, and if I hadn't bought it and been locked into Verizon for another 2 years (2 weeks before the iPhone was announced), I would be in line for an iPhone right now. Have you ever tried browsing the web on a PPC-6700 and on Verizon's so-called superior network? Fuck it takes 3 minutes to load any decent website. Everyone keeps saying "all these existing phones already do all this stuff" but they do it all HALF-ASSED and make it a complete nightmare to try and accomplish anything. Yeah my PPC-6700 has a lot of features that the iPhone doesn't, but NONE OF THOSE FEATURES WORK HOW THEY SHOULD. So what's the fucking point of even putting those shitty features in? So you can have a list of features that is longer than the iPhone's? Please.

      The iPhone is for people like me who are tired of getting fucked in the ass by the phone companies and their providers. Even if iPhone is a flop, at least the competition has been put on notice, and we'll see that trickle down to the rest of us. Thank you Apple for throwing the industry a life preserver.
  10. iphone is the new paris hilton by kennylogins · · Score: 1, Insightful

    NM

  11. Re:Don't believe the hype by adam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mentioned the negatives because I figured the positive were obvious-- they're the details we've all known for a while, and the ones that get most exposure in the 34838483 stories on /. and elsewhere. The negatives you hear, well, on many sites like Engadget, these are often spurious, or at best they're speculations. The negatives I pointed out really do exist, but aren't the end of the world (for me), and I figured maybe other readers would want to hear my take. I don't consider the price a negative. I spent $500 on my blackberry, and around $700 on my Treo (back in the day), so Apple's price is right about what I'm willing to pay for a good smartphone.

    "except for the select few reviewers that have actually used an iPhone can know that the UI is better"

    Anyone who had watched the apple tour video can tell you the UI is lightyears ahead of Blackberry, Treo, etc. Even the commercials make this apparent. And as I said, I'm willing to put some faith in certain reviewers (Pogue, etc), and they have all said positive things about the majority of the phone's features.

    "How anyone could be sure that the iPhone doesn't crash as "often" as existing smart phones on the market is beyond me"

    My Treo would endure around 3-5 crashes PER DAY. My blackberry doesn't crash, but has gotten considerable slower over time, and freezes occasionally (and this always seems to be at the exact wrong moment). I am not someone who grants corporations a lot of faith, but Apple is one of the few who has earned my faith. They're products aren't know for being cheap, but their UI and industrial design are both industry leading, and stability is an important factor to them. This is evidenced in the lack of third party apps-- that's what causes many other phones crash 10 times a day (instead of the normal once or twice if you're only using the native apps). Apple has earned enough credit with me that I'm willing to stake $500 on their product being solid. Apple doesn't have the best reputation for 1st gen devices, but I've had no issues with my Macbook Pro, so I'm willing to take that "gamble" again.. some aren't. Incidentally, the only other company that I can think of that I've decided to buy a product without even seeing it in person, was my Lotus, and that was for the same reasons. And I was very happy I made the purchase.

    "How can you know that the iPhone is worth the money or even decent?"

    I can't "KNOW" anything about the iPhone, really. What I do "KNOW" is that apple has, in the past, built many products I am very happy with, and has earned a reputation for quality. So yes, it's a gamble, but I believe the odds are handicapped in my favor. Incidentally, if you're tempted to call me an Apple zealot.. I'm making this post from an Opteron box running XP64 Corp. I tend to believe in the right tool for the right job-- in this case, I don't feel like the blackberry is the right tool for me, and even if the iPhone isn't [exactly] either, it's as close as anything will be for a while.

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  12. SSH by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    putty is available on symbian. Will the iphone have anything as useful?

  13. Re:Don't believe the hype by bjourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who had watched the apple tour video can tell you the UI is lightyears ahead of Blackberry, Treo, etc. Even the commercials make this apparent. And as I said, I'm willing to put some faith in certain reviewers (Pogue, etc), and they have all said positive things about the majority of the phone's features.

    That is called "advertising." Anyone who have watched the trailers for Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End can tell you that that is an awesome movie. Suckers queued in line for that product too.

  14. Re:Five, Four, Three... by His+Shadow · · Score: 2, Insightful
    That's the countdown until we see a slew of applications for Windows Mobile smartphones and Pocket PCs


    Spare us. A 15 year headstart didn't give us anything as slick as the iPhone and you think Microsoft or Motorola will be able to do anything but create a crappy "good enough" copy? Just like their current junk?


    I guess you can dream.

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  15. the iMac craze by fishboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good lord, the article about Apple flops mentions the iMac as a failure, even though the original series was the best-selling desktop computer of all time and basically heralded an age of all-in-one computers. He even states "iMac, great computer, but when was the last time you saw one? That craze died pretty fast" For chrissakes they still make the bloody things. Yeah, yeah, he was talking about the original ones, but for crying out loud, that was more than five years ago. The craze died out because they discontinued that model. Idiot.

    1. Re:the iMac craze by stewbacca · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yeah, a memento mori is probably the worst article I've read in awhile. Talk about living in an alternate universe (and getting paid to write about what you don't know!). Although the first mighty mouse has only been released lately, I've been using 2,4,8 whatever-button mouses on Macs since, what, OS 7.6, circa 1995? Hell it might have been even earlier than that. I don't buy Macs for the bundled mouse. Nor do I buy PCs for the mouse that they come with. Logitech makes some pretty nice input devices for around $50 that work with Macs (on a couple of times even better on my Mac, as my PC had problems identifying the USB port back in the early days of PC and USB).

      The ROKR? That's all you got? Come on, any moron can see that that is a Motorola phone with a weak attempt to paint an Apple logo on the side. It probably had more to do with the Apple/Motorola fall out and tying up any loose business ends before they cut ties with each other.

      When is the last time you've seen an iMac? That question alone should get the author fired. Well, I'm typing on a 20" Intel iMac as we speak. It is my first iMac, because I never saw the allure of a transparent bowling ball on my desktop, nor a white platic lamp. Also, it is only as of recently that computers have slowed down enough for me to be comfortable with an all-in-one. I'm still cruising with a 1999 G4 and have never upgraded anything (other than a cpu speed bump up to 800 from 350). Why pay for the "upgradability" if my recent past shows I don't upgrade?

      The author could have at least said the clam-shell iBooks were a flop, based on the logic of poor sales. Didn't only 13 year old girls buy those things?

      I don't recall the Newton being a flop either. I recall lawyers and doctors loving the thing, and Apple not being able to make enough of them. Just because average Joe consumer doesn't buy something (too expensive for them) doesn't make it a flop. There are some circles (albeit small) that still laud the capabilities of that thing. A better FLOP example would be those eBook school computer thingies they were trying to push on everyone (foget what they are called, you know..the ones with the mono green screens in an era of cheap and easy 32-bit color?)

      The Cube can be classified as a flop, only because it was poorly designed and overheated. Sales figures were based more in its propensity to incinerate its self moreso than the high price tag. The high price tag is bunk because people where buying $3000 Powerbooks left and right (myself included).

      Eworld was bundled with Performas. No surpise that it faded out, because dial-up one-stop Internet points like AOL and Prodigy were also dying out at the same time. Apple didn't see the point in continuing an outdated Internet access model.

      Here's an Apple flop for you..their QuickTake digital cameras. Those things were expensive and not suitable for the target market of creative professionals.

  16. Re:Don't believe the hype by fbjon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the end user will have thier home city (or even office) set as a default location. That is a very realistic presentation of a typical user expereince with the device. Uh, wow.


    Monday: "I wonder what restaurants can be found around my work place, where I go every day..."
    Tuesday: "I wonder what restaurants can be found around my work place, where I go every day..."

    It sounds rather kludgy from my point of view. Revolutionary would be if it already had all the info, gathered based on my location, and I just hit a button: "food" and it gives a couple of arrows I can follow to get to different kinds of food, based on my preferences. Or "Kill time: 30 min", and it gives a few small galleries, cafés, and nice parks (depending on weather). That's a feature worth talking about.

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