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Recovering a Lost or Stolen Gadget

gurps_npc writes "The explosion of portable electronic devices, can really weigh you down. Carrying a pager, phone, iPod, camera, and game is quite a lot. Worse, it gives you many more such things to misplace or get stolen. This CNN story discusses some of the retrieval services that help you keep what belongs to you. I particularly like the first one, about a new Singapore-based software that when you download it to your phone, messages everyone in your phone's database whenever a new chip with a new phone number is installed in the phone. This makes it very hard for someone to steal your phone as all your friends get their new phone number."

94 comments

  1. iPhone by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I was wondering when we'd get today's first iPhone-related story. Bravo, slashdot.

  2. So... by Tuoqui · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what is stopping anyone from deleting all the friends in the phone's list before they switch the chip? Or as I thought, doesn't the chip hold all that information on it (at least for SIM cards)

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    1. Re:So... by EggyToast · · Score: 1

      Agreed -- not everyone steals a phone in order to "claim it," but rather to use it for some deals or whatever, then strip the chip out if they figure it's sellable. Plenty of time for them to simply wipe the memory of the thing.

      However, not all people store contacts to the SIM card. I know I've always stored contacts on the phone itself, mostly so I can assign home/work/cell icons to classify people AND use the phone's speed dial w/o needing to press 4 digits. Pressing #1 is a lot easier than #6122. At that point I might as well just dial the number.

      I back up and maintain all my contacts on my computer so it's not a big deal for my own uses. It's one of the weird crappy things about using SIMs, I guess.

    2. Re:So... by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Nothing at all. While the software is a pretty good idea, it's only going to work so long as theives aren't aware of its existance.

  3. I'd like a means to deactivate the device by mrmeval · · Score: 4, Interesting

    when I'm not near it. RFID?

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    1. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

      A small remote-controlled explosive charge would do the trick, just enough to remove the skin from the offender's hand and maybe break a few fingers. And, if he happens to have the thing in his pocket at the time, if nothing else he'll have trouble reproducing, which will help keep the population of phone thieves down.

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    2. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by torxic · · Score: 0

      Or the fingers of a poor Mexican migrant who thought he had found a good deal at the flea market.

    3. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Or the fingers of a poor Mexican migrant who thought he had found a good deal at the flea market.
      People who buy known-stolen goods are the biggest reason theft is so rampant, just like there would be next to no spam if no one responded to it. Having a risk attached there would be a great thing for the society at large.
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    4. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by moranar · · Score: 1

      Wounding people would mean that you (or other taxpayers) would pay for their recovery while in hospital. Plus, the expenses for jailing them afterwards are always a concern.
      Plus, there's always that famous case in which the judge filed in favor of the burglar who'd hurt himself while robbing a house. Do you really want that?
      Either don't do it at all or do the job correctly and put the thieves out of their misery. (yes, it's a joke)

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    5. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The approach to combating mobile phone theft in the UK that seems to have worked the best is for each phone to have a unique code that can be transmitted to disable it. When a phone is stolen, you call up the network and they permanently disable the phone. A thief needs to make sure they sell the phone before the original owner notices it's missing, to someone who doesn't realise it's stolen. No one who suspects it's stolen will pay, since they know it will turn into a brick as soon as the original owner realises.

      I often wondered why iTunes couldn't include a list of IDs of stolen iPods, and disable them on connection to the computer.

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    6. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Either don't do it at all or do the job correctly and put the thieves out of their misery. (yes, it's a joke)

      Well, apparently you thought I was being serious about putting bombs in cell phones to begin with, so I guess I can take your post seriously too if I want, so there.

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    7. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      Eh, that'd bring down the arsonists from batfuckers. A small thermite charge would do. ;)

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    8. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by moranar · · Score: 1

      It is possible to respond to a joke with another.
      I'm sure you'd have gotten the humor, disclaimer or not. But in this age, I prefer to make myself extremely clear that I'm joking and not in fact advocating murder. You never know which dumbass is going to trawl google or /. for controversy.

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    9. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by Dan541 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dial *#06# and your phone should reveal its serial number Aka IMIE number wich the networks in Australia can and do block once the phone is reported stolen. ~Dan

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    10. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      True, or which three-letter agency is going to trawl Slashdot looking for targets.

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    11. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds, interesting. The explosion of portable electronic devices, can really weigh you down.

    12. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      Good idea! you start working on that, and I'll start on the detonate-all-devices-remotely-hack-thingy.

    13. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Problem is, it doesn't work:

      1. The IMEI can be changed with the right software.

      2. Many (most?) stolen phones are immediately sent to third world countries, and it's not in the interest of the local operators to disable them - their business plan rests on the availability of cheap (stolen) phones.

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    14. Re:I'd like a means to deactivate the device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent is right. If we go blowing the fingers off of Mexicans, then who will pick our crops?

  4. Software solutions won't do it by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Software solutions/Dial home won't do it. Any respectable thief will instantly power off the device, put it in a metal briefcase, then when he is in a secure location will format/restore to default the stolen device in a matter of minutes and then sell it to the black market.

    1. Re:Software solutions won't do it by morari · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I somehow doubt that guys walking around randomly stealing cell phones on the street are "respectable thieves". More likely they're of average or below average intellect and are doing the occasional, petty crime purely for their direct, personal, immediate benefit with no grander thoughts whatsoever.

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    2. Re:Software solutions won't do it by billcopc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You and I may be clever and technically-inclined, but we are not thieves. The petty thief is no smarter than the average inbred. If they had any brains they'd be putting their efforts into the far more profitable field of white-collar crime. Why risk a criminal record and possible jail time for a small electronic gadget that's hardly worth anything in the used market ? Used phones have little value because they're crappy little taiwanese gadgets that simply aren't built to last.

      I consider myself lucky if I can manage to sell off my used phone for 25 bucks, because in most cases the phone was "free" to me in the first place, as in "I bitched at the company and they comped me a free phone". It would be different if telecoms gave you a discount for using your own phone, but they don't. It costs the same thing whether you take the new free phone or not.

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    3. Re:Software solutions won't do it by AusIV · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I put my money on the non-respectable thieves. I have a laptop that I take every where with me. I keep it close, and I have a lock for it when I leave it unattended (usually just in my apartment). But on the off chance that it ever gets stolen, I also have a daemon installed that will register it's IP address with a remote server as soon as it finds it has a new IP address. While I hope it never comes down to it, I suspect it would be much easier to track down my laptop if it ever got stolen than it would be if I weren't running that daemon.

      A "respectable thief" would boot with a Live CD to collect my personal information before formatting the drive, but a typical thief would more likely just boot it up.

      Like I say, I keep my laptop close, and lock it up when I can't, but I feel a bit more secure knowing my laptop phones home.

    4. Re:Software solutions won't do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bzzt, wrong. Most people gotta work themselves up the ladder, whether they're in organised crime or in organised "legitimate business". Please take a look at a nice long list of some of the world's billionaires to see how many started by being cunning on the shop floor. Whatever the business, the best businessmen show competence at all rungs of the ladder.

    5. Re:Software solutions won't do it by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      Like I say, I keep my laptop close, and lock it up when I can't, but I feel a bit more secure knowing my laptop phones home. I can't imagine why. Even a luddite thief will be able to keep your laptop off the net, and once they see you're running Linux, you can expect a "liveCD" style wipe. The one who would actually care about your personal info -- a sophisticated identity thief -- is even less likely to try and connect online.
    6. Re:Software solutions won't do it by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      You do realize that in most bioses you can disable cd booting and require a password to change any bios settings, correct? Its one extra level of protection, they will have a much harder time installing a new OS. They could still swap hard drives, but it becomes much more of a pain for the thief to do so and less likely that they will even bother.

    7. Re:Software solutions won't do it by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1

      Software solutions/Dial home won't do it.

      If you build your own ROMs for your phone you can install some interesting software that persists. For example, you can install a text-sending application on MS phones that will send the SIM details to a predefined number whenever it changes from a pre-approved sim number. As this is in the base ROM it survives a hard-reset. Sure, you could reflash it, but unless the thief knows the platform well and has software development experience then that isn't going to happen. Even if it did, you just cost him 4-8 hours work, devaluing his crime.

      Even if the thief sells it on, you could use social engineering to get it back or at least make it worthless. Just text the new owner "This phone is stolen, all phones and messages are being logged and sent to the police" every day. If you wanted to go the whole hog, use one of the services that allow you to spoof the from address and just send it from "911".

    8. Re:Software solutions won't do it by AusIV · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ever heard of Lojack for laptops? It works on the same basic principle, and increases the chances of your laptop being returned from about 3% to about 75%. My method doesn't have a team to follow up, but I'd have more evidence for taking action.

    9. Re:Software solutions won't do it by techspeak(c) · · Score: 1
      Samsung has launched a complete series of phones in India, in which as soon as a new chip is inserted (one other than the original, registered chip), the phone sends an SMS to 2 preset numbers.
      This would mean that if your phone is lost, it can not be used without you knowing
      • the new number,
      • the new location (if you have filed a complaint i.e.) and
      • the identity of the new owner (from the phone company).
      The only flaw in the system is that if the thief dismantles the phone and sells the parts for spares/repairs, the system can not do anything. Parts fetch a lower price and therefore Samsung phones fitted with thie Mobile Tracker technology would be a less attractive piece to steal.

      two cents..

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    10. Re:Software solutions won't do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop typing "Bzzt". It's fucking annoying.

  5. StuffBak by eck011219 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use StuffBak myself (they're mentioned in TFA). Haven't had to use it yet, but their website is a snap to use and their labels are very affordable.

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    1. Re:StuffBak by danep · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but what's wrong with just scribbling your phone / email on the device in magic marker? I mean if whoever "finds" it is a good samaritan, they'll return it regardless of how pretty the label looks, and if they're not a good samaritan, you're pretty much stuffed anyway. But magic marker would be a hell of a lot tougher for a thief to remove than a little old label.

    2. Re:StuffBak by eck011219 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the labels are those metal super-adhesive things that are also used in schools for AV equipment. There's no getting this thing off, whereas a little bit of Bestine (or some other solvent) takes permanent marker right off plastic. Moreover, it can be anonymous, so if they impulsively steal something and then can't use it (a password protected PC, for example, they can go through StuffBak with no fear of prosecution (if you want it that way). You can also offer rewards. Basically, it makes the whole process less personal and in many ways more efficient.

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    3. Re:StuffBak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could just do like me and put a "reward if found" recurring alarm or contact on your phone, photo on your camera, or album on your ipod. I can't say if this will work as well, since I haven't lost any of those items recently.

      I did lose my phone on a subway in Tokyo a few years back, but it was at the lost and found office the next day. Tokyo's probably an exception though.

  6. Ooops by also-rr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I seem to have lost my gadget for finding lost or stolen gadgets. I wonder where I left it? All I need to do is find my gadget for finding lost or stolen gadgets and then...

    Ack.

    1. Re:Ooops by jovius · · Score: 1

      I actually would like to have all the things fitted with rfid tags.. It would then be a relatively simple task to track all the things in your house in 3-D.. and other people's things too perhaps, but the visualization part would be neat :)

    2. Re:Ooops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One device to rule them all? Check with Golem, he may have it.

    3. Re:Ooops by Footix · · Score: 1

      Well that's no problem, you can just use your gadget for finding lost or stolen gadgets for finding lost or stolen gadgets.

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    4. Re:Ooops by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 1

      Actually, all that I have to do is to find YOUR gadget for finding lost gadgets.

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  7. strange they don't mention blackberries... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you use blackberry enterprise server, an admin can remotely lock the device, and display a message on how to return it. You can also wipe the device remotely.

    Further, since blackberries sync their contents to the server, you aren't going to lose information. Just get a new blackberry, and sync to the server.

  8. I have a great solution that works perfectly. by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I buy replacement and loss insurance on all my expensive items I also encrypt all important data. (cellphone requires a pin password to turn it on or use it)

    If someone steals my PDA, they wont get the data as it's safe, and I get a brand new PDA. works great.

    I just wish the security in PDA's were decent so that after 3 attempts it locks the PDA and will not unlock until it is resynched in the cradle of the mated PC. Palm and Windows pocket devices can be reset and sold. Phones are 100% useless on the black market (you do report and have your esn blacklisted with your cellphone company right?) PDA's should have the same kind of protection available.

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    1. Re:I have a great solution that works perfectly. by Kopiok · · Score: 1

      It's not so much them not being able to access your data after it's stolen, it's you being able to access your data. I haven't exactly memorized every number on my contacts list.

    2. Re:I have a great solution that works perfectly. by mosch · · Score: 1

      That's a very good solution, assuming you hate money, are extraordinarily careless, or you plan to commit large amounts of insurance fraud.

      If one of those isn't true, you'd be better off skipping the insurance, and just replacing the stuff yourself, occasionally.

    3. Re:I have a great solution that works perfectly. by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 1

      Then buy a phone you can sync to your address book on your computer. I carry around one of the most expensive phones on the market right now (Nokia N95, yes, even more expensive than an iPhone), but one of the main selling points for me was the phones ability to sync contacts, calendars, photos, etc on my Mac & PC just like an iPhone, Treo, and Windows Mobile phones. Hell it's syncing works better imo than all the others with the iPhone being the exception. Even if someone were to steal my phone, it'd be useless. It's got a fairly standard Symbian OS feature called SIM lock. Most phones have the option, but usually people can access the phones other functions, and contacts. With the Symbian OS it completely locks you out of doing anything with the phone until one of the few SIMs it recognizes are inserted, or you key in the SIM lock code to register that SIM with the phone. Wish that was something that was part of the standard setup for cellphones though. Would stop people from getting sticky fingers allot more often when your out having lunch, and aren't paying attention to your phone.

  9. Eh no by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You give the thieves far too much credit. Your average thief is even dumber than your average person.

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    1. Re:Eh no by EggyToast · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if they're smart enough to figure all that out, they're smart enough to have a better gig than stealing phones.

    2. Re:Eh no by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Enter the iPhone

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  10. A much simpler solution... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    The only gadget that I carry is my cell phone. To simplify things even further, I use my cell phone only as a phone. What's wrong with being boring, unsexy and non-techo?

    1. Re:A much simpler solution... by Brickwall · · Score: 1

      I have a Nokia with a 2 megapixel camera, and an added memory card. I store some pictures on it, and some music, but I make sure everything is backed up that night. So at most, I might lose an afternoon's pictures. Good data security depends on both the system administrator and the user. In this case, you are both.

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    2. Re:A much simpler solution... by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 1

      Requirements for posting on Slashdot:

      1. Boring. Check!

      2. Unsexy. Check!

      3. Technophile. BZZT!! You lose. Now go back to Digg!

  11. I'm sorry but.... by JamesRose · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're clearly just compensating for having a massive penis

    1. Re:I'm sorry but.... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Shh... You'll wake him up. :P

  12. Bluetooth by nanosquid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are various Bluetooth presence software add-ons that will lock your laptop, cell phone, PDA, etc. when it's out of range.

  13. Car alarm for your MacBook by floki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    iAlertU is definitely the coolest way to keep your MacBook (Pro) from being stolen. You can turn it on with your remote control like you do with your car keys. It even features the familiar car locking and unlocking sound. When someone grabs your notebook the fall sensor normally used to shut down your hard disk when a fall is detected activates, the screen starts flashing and an alarm siren goes off. It even snaps a photo of the thief with the built-in iSight webcam and emails it to a predefined address.

    Be sure to check out the YouTube video of the software in action. It really made me laugh just because of the sounds. Can't wait to try that out in my university library :-)

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    1. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by DancesWithBlowTorch · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, unlike cars, MacBooks have an easy-to-reach Power Button which, when pressed for five seconds, switches off about every software-based alarm system.

      Sorry.

    2. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by norton_I · · Score: 1

      At least on my dell (not sure how Macs handle this), the power button generates an ACPI event when the power button is pressed, not released. Thus, you could have a software alarm go off for 5 seconds while the would be thief is holding the power button down. Likewise, you can lift up the laptop and pop out the battery, but that probably sets of the alarm first.

      For someone worried about a someone grabbing their laptop when they are getting a refill on their coffee, the motion sensor alarm should work pretty well. I was wishing the other day that my laptop had a tilt sensor so I could rig something like that up.

    3. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm, if there's one thing I hate more than car thieves, it's loud, incessant car alarms. The car's owner, by setting up such an alarm - which, by design, disturbs the peace of those other than the owner and the thief - is invading my personal space, and as such, I am entitled to take corrective action.

      In the case of the MacBookProAlarm, as a non-Mac-owner, I hope for your sake that the battery is easy to remove. Because if I hear an unattended laptop go off like that, and it doesn't shut up within 60 seconds (though if it's the middle of the night, waking me up in the first place is already unacceptable), I will first remove the AC cord, then I will try to remove the battery, then I will stamp on it.

    4. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by vidarh · · Score: 1

      I think I'd gone for a metallic voice screaming "Help me! I'm being stolen! I'm scared he'll hurt me.... Stop the thief!" or something like that rather than the siren...

    5. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by screeble · · Score: 1

      I tried using iAlertU at work but it seemed to attract attention to my MBP rather than protect. My coworkers set the alarm off on purpose. They'd ask me to enable and disable the alarm for new people who had not seen the software in action. I finally got fed up and just bought a kick-ass laptop lock. Now I just physically lock up the laptop and lock the screensaver. Seems to work better and draw less attention to my pod in the farm.

    6. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by netsharc · · Score: 1

      They also have headphone jacks, which, when you plug in headphones into it, turns off the built-in speakers.

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    7. Re:Car alarm for your MacBook by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Never mind, apparently the speakers don't get turned off after all when using newer versions of the program. Apparenty that behaviour is even hackable from the software side, which is neat.

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  14. flawed thinking by petes_PoV · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This makes it very hard for someone to steal your phone as all your friends get their new phone number."

    I believe most theives steal goods to sell them on, rather than to use them themselves.
    In that case, so long as they can get ca$h for your goodies, they won't care who has the number after they've flogged it off. It's not as if they will offer a guarantee, or after-sales service.

    The only real solutions are to prevent items being stolen, or to make it blindingly obvious to a potential buyer that the item is non-functional

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    1. Re:flawed thinking by torxic · · Score: 0

      Yes, but at least you will be able to retrieve it back from the new "owner". IANAL, but i know in many countries, it is illegal to be in possession of stolen goods.

  15. Oh well by hoshino · · Score: 1
    If only I had known about this before my phone was stolen. :(

    I think FlexiSPY is a whole lot cooler, though.

  16. This is a stickup ! by Joebert · · Score: 4, Funny

    My buddy got robbed yesterday, we didn't believe him at first because he still had his wallet, but then he showed us there was nothing in the wallet & then showed us his new iPhone.

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  17. Are thieves really that stupid? by tiffany98121 · · Score: 1

    What kind of idiotic thief doesn't do a hard reset on the phone they stole, thereby erasing any counter-measure type software?

    1. Re:Are thieves really that stupid? by Detritus · · Score: 1

      Yes. The average thief's thought processes rarely make it past "ooh, shiny!".

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  18. Interesting idea indeed by ingo23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The explosion of portable electronic devices, can really weigh you down. .... This CNN story discusses some of the retrieval services that help you keep what belongs to you. That would be quite an effective method. You just follow the news helicopters to the site. The device may not survive, but at least it will give the bad guy a good lessson.
  19. Pager? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In what year are we living again?

  20. You haven't "lost" your gadget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seem to have lost my gadget for finding lost or stolen gadgets. I wonder where I left it? All I need to do is find my gadget for finding lost or stolen gadgets and then...

    Actually, you haven't lost your "gadget." My law firm PH&P (Patent, Hoard, and Profit), has successfully stopped you from infringing on our patent for "Use of misc. gadgetry." We'll be happy to restore your access to the gadget, once the licensing matter is brought up to date.

    Remember our slogan, "Patents are about sharing, not FUD!"

  21. Cool feature by X10 · · Score: 0

    I think this is a cool feature. It won't stop all thieves, but it makes stealing gadgets less worthwhile. Thieves don't want to spend an hour cleaning up the gadget, they want to push it though their channel of stolen goods resellers asap.
    Also, if the feature only works for one thief out of ten, it's still cool.

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  22. Some good still out there... by binaryspiral · · Score: 1

    Trackitback and Stuffback stickers are available pretty cheaply. There are still good people out there that will return your items - if they can. These labels just give them an easy way to do it.

    Then again, it's good to always assume your mobile device will be lost and treat the data on it as publicly accessible - always.

    *Encrypt the files with sensitive info.
    *Enable password protection - using a real password, not a nancy-boy pin number.
    *Keep cellphone service numbers on a card in your wallet so you can cancel service quickly if your phone is lost.
    *Maintain a backup of your cellphone contacts and configuration so you can reload a new phone quickly.
    *If you're rolling with a Treo with connections to an exchange environment- make sure you have the necessary updates so you can issue a remote nuke to wipe the device the next time it checks in.

  23. Simpler solution by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    I have an even easier solution - I don't carry a ton of expensive gadgetry about my person on a daily basis.
     
    When I do carry expensive gadgetry about (usually only when geocaching) I do as I was taught as a kid - the gadget is either in use, or it's where it belongs. (I.E. in the appropriate belt pouch with the closure fastened.) I never lay stuff down for 'just a moment'.

    1. Re:Simpler solution by eiapoce · · Score: 0

      1) By the laws of Murphy you are going to lose them anyway.
      2) The idea of the phone-home software is rather old. I use WildPalm's "Phonesecure" since I had a nokia 7650 and it still runs brilliantly on the 6630.

      The only almost absolutely effective solution would be to blacklist the IMEI - This way the thieve should unlock, then disable the soft then reprogram the eeprom. The last step is not really easy given the amount of DRM crap that most companies are putting into phones to prevent reverse engineering.
      Enrico

  24. Too secure? by gr8dude · · Score: 1

    I was thinking about adding a script that would do all these network operations... But I have a power-on password on my laptop, as well as one for my OS account.

    Take into account the fact that a dumb person can't override the power-on password, it means that they'll probably pass the computer to someone who has the skills to remove/reset it, and the brains to understand that the safest thing to do is to wipe the system. I have never seen a person who connects a computer to the internet, this being the first thing they do with it once they get it.

    I conclude that either these phone-home scripts are useless, or we should redefine the best practices of security and remove power-on and user account passwords from the list, so that the phone-home script actually gets a chance to connect somewhere.

    1. Re:Too secure? by timholman · · Score: 1

      I conclude that either these phone-home scripts are useless, or we should redefine the best practices of security and remove power-on and user account passwords from the list, so that the phone-home script actually gets a chance to connect somewhere.

      Agreed. Most thieves are lazy, opportunistic, and not particularly bright. If you completely lock down your laptop to keep anyone from using it, then your data will be safe, but you'll never get the laptop back. The thief will be forced to sell it to someone who will wipe or replace the hard drive, and after that it's gone.

      I use a different strategy. I put a non-administrative guest account on my laptop and set my normal user account to auto-logout. A thief can't get to my data, but he can use the guest account - and that's exactly what I want him to do. Formatting and reconfiguring a computer is tedious work, and the last thing a typical thief (or the person who buys the laptop from him) wants to do is actually have to put time and effort into making the laptop work. He just wants to connect to the web and start using it.

      After that, it's just a matter of using a daemon to update the laptop's IP address to a free dynamic DNS service, and running a VNC server with a strong password in the background. Your typical user won't even know the software is running unless he knows what to look for. At the very least I'll learn the IP address of the person using laptop; if I'm lucky and he's not operating behind a hardware firewall, I'll be able to use VNC to watch what he's doing and make some screenshots. It's not perfect, but at least it gives me a shot at recovering the laptop, and the software is free.

      A final note to Linux users who want to try this technique: as much as I hate to say this, you'll probably want to keep a small Windows partition as the honeypot on your laptop. Give the thief the ability to login to a familiar operating system, and you stand a much better chance of finding your laptop.
    2. Re:Too secure? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I have never seen a person who connects a computer to the internet, this being the first thing they do with it once they get it.

      In college, there were a couple of idiots that got busted for stealing lab computers, because they were dumb enough hooked up the computers up to the LAN in their dorm room. Since the school tracks access to the network through MAC addresses, and knows the physical location of each port in the dorms, they busted the theives within minutes of them hooking up the computers. You can never overestimatet the stupidity of some people.

  25. Doesn't always work by nbauman · · Score: 1

    Technology: The case of the novelist's car-phone

            * 02 March 1991
            * BARRY FOX
            * Magazine issue 1758

    The British police could catch many more car thieves than they do now by using the cellular phone networks to trace cellphones installed in stolen cars. But the police rarely take advantage of this and most officers seem unaware that the facility even exists - even though more than a million people in Britain now have cellular phones.

    In addition, the operators of the cellphone networks are giving subscribers the wrong advice when their car is stolen. They advise cutting off the phone, which then prevents its use for tracing the car.

    This problem was highlighted recently when the novelist Margaret Drabble had her car stolen from outside her home in Hampstead, North London. Her husband, historian Michael Holroyd, tried phoning the mobile phone in the car. A man answered, and said to Holroyd: 'I'm the thief who has stolen your car. Piss off!'

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12917584.900 -technology-the-case-of-the-novelists-carphone-.ht ml

    1. Re:Doesn't always work by triso · · Score: 1

      ...This problem was highlighted recently when the novelist Margaret Drabble had her car stolen from outside her home in Hampstead, North London. Her husband, historian Michael Holroyd, tried phoning the mobile phone in the car. A man answered, and said to Holroyd: 'I'm the thief who has stolen your car. Piss off!'... Well! He should have said, "I saw your ad in the paper; is your car still for sale?" Most thieves are too greedy to resist that.

  26. My wife... will never recover from her stolen... by zukinux · · Score: 1

    My wife... will never recover from her stolen USB powered vibrator.

    God may revenge her pain!

  27. Apple did the work for me by charleste · · Score: 1

    When my iPod was stolen (with my name engraved on the back), the sheriff recovered it from the booty of a couple of teenagers who had gone on a spree. They were in a different jurisdiction, so my police report was not on file with them. But a deputy called Apple, who called me with the case number. I was reunited with my iPod the next day.... And we lived happily ever after (once I paid the $65 for a new battery). The End.

    1. Re:Apple did the work for me by Karthikkito · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm not sure you want to touch that iPod after it's been in a teenager's booty. =p

  28. Who need terrorists anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see it now... ...rush hour in the central bus/train terminal overflowing with cellphone users, when the 12 year old hacks the remote detonation console of the phone company. splat *.* /oops

  29. Security vs. physics 101 by Mathness · · Score: 1

    I particularly like the first one, about a new Singapore-based software that when you download it to your phone, messages everyone in your phone's database whenever a new chip with a new phone number is installed in the phone. This makes it very hard for someone to steal your phone as all your friends get their new phone number." It might appear hard to get around this security feature, but it is quite easy if the thief knows just a bit about phones and/or physics. Here is the two most obvious ones, besides removing the software while the phone is still turned on.

    - Use a SIM test card, that will at most allow the phone to dial an emergency service, but still allowing full access to the phone and the removal of the software.
    - Stuff the phone into a Faraday cage (an antistatic bag is enough for this) and then remove the security software.
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    Carbon based humanoid in training.
    1. Re:Security vs. physics 101 by funfail · · Score: 1

      If an only if he/she knows that such a software is installed on the phone...

  30. What about REALLY lost stuff? by Thiago+Tomei · · Score: 1

    I, for one, am much more worried about important, but not-sensitive stuff (things like the keys to your house: you need to have them safe, but if somebody finds them, it's no big deal. Nobody would try every key in every house in the city to beat the odds of finding the right one). I'd like some kind of radio-based detector (RFID, maybe) that helps me keep track of those annoying, easy-to-lose items.

    Alternatively, we could just wait until Google is so all-knowing that we could just type "my keys" into it, and receive a satellite picture of them. :)

  31. Darwin.....? by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    With the dependency that people have on gadgets and gizmos, it is a wonder how humanity even managed to exist without it.

    There is a gadget for everything a person could possibly need, except one to take a shit for them.

    I don't have a cell phone, don't have in-dash navigation, GPS, digital camera, digital video camera, webcam, a PDA, a PSP/Nintendo DS, an IPod/MP3 player, portable DVD player, push-free vaccuum, hands-free telephone, etc., yet I can still function just as well as anybody else, if not better, seeing as how all of my friends that have these things complain like the dickens because hey are incapable of any kind of physical labor.

    A million years ago, humans were amazed by fire. Today, vaccuum cleaners that push themselves and watching TV on a cellphone that is a PDA/video/still camera are passe and nothing new.

    The only really digital things that I have are my computer and my clock... .....oh wait a minute.....

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    Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
    1. Re:Darwin.....? by Torvaun · · Score: 1

      "There is a gadget for everything a person could possibly need, except one to take a shit for them."

      What about the iPoo?

      --
      I see your informative link, and raise you a pithy comment.
    2. Re:Darwin.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A million years ago, humans were amazed by fire.


      A million years ago, humans per se did not exist. The oldest evidence of our species is about 130 000 years old.

      Certainly there were direct human ancestors, and a variety of other primate ancestors which diverged from common ancestors up to eight million or so years ago, and there is some evidence of erect bipeds up to almost two million years ago, but they would not be able to produce offspring with you, and would look strangely different from what you think of as people, even including people of dramatically different ethnicity. Calling them human would be almost as much a stretch as calling a modern chimpanzee human.

      In any event, before the adoption of fire as a tool (for cooking, light, heat, and so forth), fire would have been less amazing than frightening -- natural wildfires are regular occurrences in many habitats in which primates found themselves (up to and including actual humans, 100 000 years ago), and they're destructive, deadly, and unpredictable.

      Which of the primates used fire as a tool is somewhat speculative. Some hominids certainly could have done so in a familiar way (having similar enough hands), but there is a lack of evidence in the fossil or art record that is convincingly older than ~ 500 000 years. That's the earliest date of known remains of roasted vegetables and tool-scored roasted bones; the species involved was Homo erectus. Unearthed bones -- especially those of the skull and face -- of that species map to faces you would not think of as human, but would definitely recognize as primate.

      However, since fire had been used as a tool for hundreds of thousands of years by at least two or three non-human primate species well before the earliest actual humans, it is unlikely that early humans would have found fire amazing at all.

      Indeed, modern humans' present amazement and fascination with fire is probably because we know how quickly it can run away from our control.
  32. Remote disable software...for Treos by scuba_steve_1 · · Score: 1

    I have that capability...for my Treo.

    I run a commercial add-on program for the Treo called Butler (http://www.hobbyistsoftware.com/butler-more.php). It performs a wide array of tasks including one special one - lock the phone and destroy the phone's data.

    How it works - I can send one of four different SMS messages to the phone containing a preselected (by me) password and an instruction, directing the phone to perform one of the following actions:

    - Lock & Turn off
    - Wipe Ram , lock and turn off
    - Wipe SD Card , lock and turn off
    - Wipe Ram & SD Card, lock and turn off

    Given that I synch to my work and home PCs, I will not lose any data in the process. I know, because I have tested it...after my last palm was stolen. Grrrr.

    You can always call the carrier to disable the phone, but my larger concern is my data.

    1. Re:Remote disable software...for Treos by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      Nice. I'll forward that on to a friend. ;)

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      I'd go on a Vegan diet but the delivery time from Vega is too long. --brownkitty
  33. Dumb thieves by xixax · · Score: 1

    Someone I know had their PDA filched from their back pack when they were on a crowded bus. I suggested they go look at the local pawn shops over the next few days. Sure enough, it turned up and it still had his business card in it. The proprietor of course had the name, address and copy of ID for the guy who had hocked it.

    XIx.

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    "Everything is adjustable, provided you have the right tools"
  34. There's a cell phone in Okinawa by HouseArrest420 · · Score: 1

    And I'm sure they use it in other countries, but this I discovered on my last trip there (almost 1+years now). This phone had 2 parts, one part that was kept with you, either on a key chain or, as I saw with one girl, sewn into your pocketbook/book bag, and the other was in the phone itself. When these 2 objects were more than 100ft away from each other you couldn't even turn the phone on. And yeah I know someone already suggested RFID, but I felt the need to share my story as well lol.

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