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Ocarina of Time — Best Game Ever?

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the best game yet made, according to a list compiled by readers and writers of the lauded British gaming magazine Edge. Their list of the hundred best games ever is top-heavy with Nintendo titles, a full five out of the top ten being released to a Nintendo platform. Obviously, this sort of thing can get contentious, and CNet's Crave blog spoke up quickly with a contrary opinion. "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is truly a masterpiece that should be thought of as one of the greatest games ever created. But to call it the greatest game of all time is a serious misstatement. Unlike Super Mario Bros., Ocarina of Time was released in an era where video games were booming and sales were on the rise. Simply put, everyone was playing video games, and the game was the best of its time. But no other game in history--Ocarina of Time included--was able to save an entire industry from almost guaranteed destruction the way Super Mario Bros. did, and it is for this reason that we should all give ol' Mario and Luigi credit where it's due." Let's hear it, then. What game deserves to top a list of the 100 best games ever made?

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  1. Psychonauts by cyberon22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Psychonauts got in at 99? I would have pushed it into the top ten, but it's good to see that the game hasn't been completely ignored. I wonder how many people have actually played it.

    1. Re:Psychonauts by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's an extremely standard grade platformer all the way through, with absolutely nothing special about the way it plays that separates it from the rest. Only its presentation really made a big difference.


      I tend to agree. Psychonauts is certainly one of my favorite games ever, but it isn't one of the best games of all time. It's simply unusual for a game to be so perfectly executed and pretty much flawless in every way, and then on top of that have so much great character, personality and entertainment. But it didn't really offer any new, exciting game concepts, it simply delivered to an astonishingly high level of polish.
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  2. BGOAT by Reason58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can't say something is the "best" without defining what you think those qualities are that make something best.

    Storyline? Gameplay? Graphics? Sounds? Replayability? Uniqueness?

    1. Re:BGOAT by Plekto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wasteland was great, but the game that broke the RPG wide open was the Ultima series. Before that it was nethack-ish games that lacked a persistent environment, real character development, or a decent plot. Now, Ultima III was good, but the best of the series and the one that made everyone at the time(and I mean *everyone*) was IV. It essentially was Final Fantasy VII in scope and play. A decade earlier.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_IV
      1985. Nothing for almost a decade surpassed it in quality and scale.

      *quote from that link*
      "In 1996 Computer Gaming World named Ultima IV as #2 on its Best Games of All Time list on the PC."

      It didn't even make the top ten - which is how you know this "list" is a joke. And Final Fantasy VII was what - way near the very bottom? The thing still commands $60 a copy on Ebay.

  3. Yes by sycomonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The answer is yes. Ocarina of Time has every element that makes video gaming such a rewarding and engaging pasttime. It was revolutionary, and it is still fun to this day.

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  4. What's with the sequels? by Jazzer_Techie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are a lot of sequels on the list, often coupled with the omission of the original(s). They omit both Doom and Half-Life, while charting Doom II at 78 and Half-Life 2 at 4. Honestly, that just doesn't make much sense.

    1. Re:What's with the sequels? by G-funk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Coz doom 2 was better than doom, and ditto for hl2? The list isn't "revoltionary" or "groundbreaking" games, it's "best".

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  5. I learned the other day... by TerranFury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that the South Korean Air Force has an official Starcraft team.

    I'd say that getting your videogame elevated to the status of stadium-worthy spectator sport is a pretty huge achievement. Blizzard's Starcraft is surely up there.

    (This is complicated only by the fact that it has so many worthy competitors from the same era: Age of Empires is the first that comes to mind.)

  6. Re:Counter-Strike by LandoCalrizzian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It still doesn't compare to the number of hours spent playing Super Mario Bros. Counterstrike can't even come close to the number of children(boys AND girls), teens(men AND women) and parents(men AND women) who were drawn to SMB like a moth to a flame. In 15 years, I doubt you'll find many people who keep a computer around just to play Counterstrike or it's sequels.

    Nintendo is arguably the only developer(hardware and software) to stay true to the original idea of Video Games as a source of fun instead of pimping it out to gain control of the home theater market. Sony is starting to lose it's way and Microsoft is Microsoft.

    I am not a nintendo fanboy but I do respect the Old School.

  7. One of the best by Jerry+Rivers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Deus Ex gets my vote.

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    1. Re:One of the best by Zeio · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I second that. I would say Ocarina of Time is one of my top 5 games, its awesome, I play it once a year or so in an emulator, and I hated all the Zelda games after it. It should be extended with more content. They ruined it with the follow on games, in my opinion. It was an impossible act to follow, really.

      Deus Ex is the best game ever. [Deus Ex 2 was one of the worst]

      I miss Deus Ex. I wish there were like 10 sequels using the exact format and an updated graphics engine.

      The awesome voice acting and huge amounts of immersion content made that game just awesome. The inventory system ruled. The skill system ruled. The game could be played many ways and the whole things was just good.

      I would say for console, Ocarina of Time and Super Metroid are the best console games that come to mind. But I have a long list of console game I really like.

      I really also like Herzog Zwei a lot and wish they would come out with a sequel to the awesome and fun Kid Icarus.

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  8. Something is seriously wrong with this list... by Murrdox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This list is one of the worst "Top 100" I've ever seen.

    The flaws are many and frequent.

    How could you have a top 100 list of games that completely excludes ANY Bioware or Black Isle Studios games? On top of that, there's no homage to some clear classics and pioneers of gaming, such as Zork, or Hero Quest. Only a brief mention is made for Monkey Island.

    The fact that the vast majority of the games on the list were made after 2000 says a bit.

  9. Solitaire! by Wordsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um, dude. Solitaire. Win 3.11 edition. Before they ruined it with fancy graphics. Back when it was pure.

  10. Half-Life by Kingrames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    without question half-life. It was the first game to have mod tools for the fans that were freely available as well as an actual effort behind them to ENCOURAGE mod-making, it was the first to make such a business model succeed on a massive scale, and encouraged the proliferation of community involvement in games, eventually resulting in what some would call "Web 2.0".

    Nothing in the history of gaming has impacted the WORLD in the way that it did, and for that reason I'll say that it was the best game ever.

    You may claim that other games did it better, I might even yield to the idea that the BUILD engine with Duke 3D should have the title, or maybe even quake or quake 2, but those games didn't succeed in luring in the mod community and fostering its growth as well as Valve did with Half-Life. The mod community for Quake 2 seemed to be just a thing that popped up around the game, but Half-Life actually welcomed it in and put effort into it.

    This truly was the beginning of the real internet we know today, and marked the point in history where the community surrounding a game became just as important as the game itself.

    I cast my vote for Half-Life, not any Zelda game. While Ocarina of Time was exceptionally well made, and possibly flawless, it IS possible to do more. And many games have.

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  11. Re:Best of All Time is... by khephera · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nethack. I'm still playing the DOS version.
    And I'm a female :)

  12. Re:Counter-Strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you are to judge a game on how many hours are played, you shouldn't forget Starcraft. That game is even older.

  13. Re:Counter-Strike by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With the Wii, Nintendo may be getting closer to VR than any other game system ever has. Remember VR Headsets, Force feedback controls, and all those other things that you never see around anymore? Well I for one think the Wiimote is the best progression we have towards actual VR. The fact that you can swing it like a golf club, or a tennis racket, or a baseball bat, and have it do the same thing on the screen is kind of exactly what people looking for VR have been dreaming of for a long time. It's not much of VR if you're just pushing a bunch of buttons but you happen to have a set of VR goggles.

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