Slashdot Mirror


Gaming's 10 Biggest Scandals

GamePolitics has a list of ten of the most well known gaming scandals to hit the games industry. Starting back in 1993 with the senate hearings on Night Trap (a game that arguably led to today's ESRB), the list catalogs some things that the companies responsible would probably just as soon forget. "Hot Coffee (2005) - needs no introduction. Cheeky Rockstar programmers left hidden sex animations (accidentally or otherwise) buried in the PS2 code of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Modders made sure they didn't stay buried for long. Rockstar's denials only made things worse. And then Hillary got involved ..." At the post's close they call for additional nominations, as it's definitely not an exhaustive list. They left off the ESRB's decision to re-rate Oblivion , for example. What 'scandalous' gaming events can you see rating with this topics?

28 of 96 comments (clear)

  1. Night Trap by doublefrost · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember everyone rushing to buy the game when the story broke out. Maybe that was the idea.

    1. Re:Night Trap by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 4, Informative

      I actually have an old copy of the Sega CD/32X version sitting around somewhere. It's not a *terrible* game, gameplay is basically the same as Dragon's Lair, but it's not good for more than one playthrough as it is exactly the same every time. The amusing thing is, despite the controversy, if it were a movie, it probably would have *barely* gotten a PG-13 rating, if that. No nudity, no on-screen violence, no blood, nothing. The most "controversial" scene was a few women in nightgowns, nothing even remotely revealing. The fact that there was controversy over it was rather amusing.

    2. Re:Night Trap by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, Resident Evil (any game, doesn't matter which one) was FAR FAR more violent/bloody than Night Trap ever was. The most violence I remember from Night Trap was someone dressed all in black grabbing someone and carrying them off-screen (usually through a hidden trap door). And that's only if you didn't prevent it (the object of the game was to prevent it).

  2. WhereTF is Mortal Kombat? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    WhereTF is Mortal Kombat?

    e.g.,
    http://www.gamespot.com/features/6090892/p-5.html

    It looks like this "article" was written in about 5 minutes and would probably get a C in your average sixth-grade English class if judged for intellectual content.

    1. Re:WhereTF is Mortal Kombat? by WhatHappenedToTanith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ripping a head off someone's body with their spine dangling down would only be bad in mainstream censorship society if the person was naked whilst doing it. I refer you to episode s8e01 of south park for the best commentary ever done on this topic.

    2. Re:WhereTF is Mortal Kombat? by Hemogoblin · · Score: 4, Informative

      I find it very odd to see this Gamepolitics article on Slashdot. Why of all articles was this one submitted to Slashdot? Normally, Gamepolitics articles are very well written and insightful, but this article is one of worst on the entire site. Practically all others such as this one are more interesting.

      Damn you submitter for portraying one of my favorite sites in a bad light!

    3. Re:WhereTF is Mortal Kombat? by shird · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Top 10" style article written in 5 minutes, check.
      "Digg it" link at the bottom of the article, check.

      Welcome to the new age of "publishing".

      --
      I.O.U One Sig.
    4. Re:WhereTF is Mortal Kombat? by grapeape · · Score: 2, Funny

      Most of their other articles didnt have much fanboy fight potential

  3. Hit whoring by My+name+is+Bucket · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wondering how to get people to read your crappy-ass article when you've already reported on XBox's Red Ring fiasco? Find nine random things that are related in some obscure way and make a list out of them.

  4. Custer's Revenge? by morari · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least Hot Coffee was consensual and non-explicit. I guess America was founded upon the notions presented by that old Atari game though...

    --
    "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
    1. Re:Custer's Revenge? by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 2

      She was already captured and tied to the cactus. You just had to walk across the screen without getting arrow'd, at which point you'd screw her.

      --
      In Repressive Burma, it's not just your connection that dies. slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=314547&cid=20819199
  5. quake in the smithsonian by drfrog · · Score: 2, Funny

    that it isnt in there is a scandal

    --
    back in the day we didnt have no old school
  6. Left out Carmageddon too by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Informative

    Carmageddon was the first game ever to be banned by the U.K.

  7. Jack Thompson by grapeape · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Jack Thompson should get his own category beyond just a mention in the Hot Coffee incident after all he has been stirring up controversy in gaming since the late 90's when he became bored with the PMRC crowd.

    1. Re:Jack Thompson by The+PS3+Will+Fail · · Score: 3, Insightful
      No, Jack Thompson should be forgotten about. He's had no real impact on the gaming world. He's just a loud voice that sensationalist news outlets get for their incredibly shallow examination of any gaming issue. I can't think of a single time he's really been on top of an issue or caused any real change. It certainly wasn't Thompson that brought Hot Coffee to light.

      He's not worth mentioning.

  8. The guy game? by crossmr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wasn't it the guy game or one of those similar games released with a nude 17 year old contained within (that was only discovered AFTER the game was released). Animated guys kissing vs underage nudity in the US... I guess that is a pretty tough call on which would get more blown out proportion...

  9. The Star Wars Galaxies NGE should be there by WCMI92 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The NGE was the biggest bait and switch EVER pulled on a MMO subscriber community, sell them an expansion containing content and enhancements for professions that would be removed 2 weeks later, publically say things like "The CU is here to stay", and "Jedi will never be a starter profession" then 2 days after charging for the expansion announce a massive change to the game that deleted 2/3rds of it. This was so egregious that a week later SOE was forced to offer refunds for the expansion (probably because spending time in a federal "pound me in the ass" prison for wire fraud didn't appeal to John Smedley).

    The NGE also ruined SOE's reputation basically for good. Not that the rest of Sony wasn't helping.

    --
    Corporatism != Free Market
  10. Tagged: Top10 by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From now on, I want to be able to filter out any "Top 10" list from some random blogger. Generally, these lists have at least five things that I've already heard about, and five more that I honestly couldn't give a damn about.

    --
    Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
    1. Re:Tagged: Top10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      But thinking of the cheerleaders leads to more...

  11. How about.... by UncleTogie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...the porn hidden in Star Castle...?

    --
    Don't tell me to get a life. I'm a gamer; I have LOTS of lives!
  12. EVE Online by L-Train8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is an MMO game where the developers are cheaters who give themselves and their friends an advantage? That's scandalous. http://endie.net/cs/blogs/endie/archive/2007/05/25 /Eve_Online_Developer_Cheating_Again.aspx

    --

    Don't forget that Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.
  13. Let's not forget some historical controversies by solar_blitz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can think of several different controversies or scandals in the video game industry that need to be explained. Yes, Mortal Kombat is definitely one of them. Harris and Klebold are another. But aren't we forgetting some others?

    Christian Conservative backlash over Pokemon is one of them - summoning demons, doing demonic acts, James the cross-dresser, etc. As well as Jewish backlash against Pokemon because one of the Japanese card had the manji character on it (essentially a swastika), even though it was in use for thousands of years prior to World War II, and African American protests over the character Jynx, which was based upon a reference to picadilly characters in old Japanese comics. Oh, and the epileptic seizures caused by an episode of Pokemon.

    Also consider the Gizmondo, which had everything from a trashed 1 million dollar ferrari to the Swedish mafia. Oh yeah, and Phantom.

    Then there was that lawsuit Universal Studios threw against Nintendo in the early days over the creative license of Donkey Kong. Nintendo won, by the way. And got Universal to pay off their legal fees.

  14. I bet they did... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, they were busy blaming everything they could get their hands on for Columbine. There was so much blame that even on PBS, there was barely time left to mourn...

    Here's my all-time favorite quote, though:

    Michael Moore: If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine or the people in that community, what would you say to them if they were here right now?
    Marilyn Manson: I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say. And that's what no one did.
    --
    Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
  15. "Oblivion scandal" shame for ESBR. by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those who don't remember it: man-boobs forbidden.

    Oblivion originally used the same skin for both male and female models. Males had normal male chests with normal nipples on them. Female models had an extra unremovable piece of clothing - a bra or a strap of cloth, or some other halter, so the breasts never show. Except a mod removed the piece of clothing and what you got were stretched, misplaced textures of nipples that came from the male body.

    Result? "Bethesda tried to sneak adult content into the game!" outrage. And re-rating it.

    Incidentially, the male nipples appearing on female models were more offensive (and caused re-rating the game) than a mission to murder all children of a mother, then the mother herself, or performing a live sacrifice (ok, not actually human, but sentient...), or murdering innocent citizens on behalf of a schizophrenic madman... oh well, things that kids shouldn't be allowed to play. But cheating, stealing, murdering innocents in cool blood, that was all OK to ESBR. Piss-poor textures of nipples weren't.

    --
    45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2
  16. False by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, that's false. Oblivion has different skins for males and females, and there's no freakin' way a male, even a bodybuilder, would have _that_ kind of shading of the pecs. The mis-placing the nipples is more of a result of not paying much attention to how it aligns with the mesh. (Probably most of Bethesda only saw it with the bra on.) But the texture itself, if you look at it as just a bitmap, is clearly a female skin and includes extra shading to accentuate the breasts. It's _not_ a male texture.

    And it would be trivial to tweak the texture coordinates for the vertexes so the nipples fall anywhere you want them on the mesh. Now obviously Bethesda didn't bother, so it's a fairly safe assumption that they never intended the game to be playe with naked characters. But don't mistake it for anything more than that: it doesn't mean it's the wrong texture, it doesn't mean it can't be done, it just means that they had better stuff to spend their time and money on than aligning the nipples.

    Now I'm not for censorship, and I do consider the whole "scandal" pretty stupid, but spewing falsehoods doesn't help either.

    --
    A polar bear is a cartesian bear after a coordinate transform.
    1. Re:False by Creepy · · Score: 2, Informative

      are you sure? I remember something similar to the first poster, Oblivion defaulted to the male texture unless an override was present such as the female texture. There was also some odd naming, too, as I think female textures were all in a container _male (something like that - its been a while) and those contained the bra art. I believe all the first "topless" mods did was remove the _male files, skinning the female character with the male nipples.

      Still, it was hardly the first game to ship with art that could be modded to be topless without adding any code - even before San Andreas - Gothic (I) shipped in Germany with a topless bathing scene and they covered it up with a bra for the US version to get an M rating. You could get the original version simply by copying the CD included art over the installed art. Still, it was difficult to get to the location where the woman was bathing because it was near the endgame and you had to wait for the scripted event.

  17. Re:DC Sniper by steveo777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The DC Sniper claimed he learned how to murder people by playing GTA, which is ridiculous. GTA isn't even a FPS.

    Ridiculous? I find your conclusion just as or more so. Neither GTA nor a FPS (none that I'm aware of) really show how to hold, fire, care for, and maintain a firearm. But either can easily point out tactical and strategic positions for shooting from a distance.

    --
    This sig isn't original enough, it's time to come up with something witty...
  18. Columbine RPG vs. Postal by necro2607 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Columbine RPG note brings up a fact I found funny - that the shooting by Kimveer Gill was apparently "blamed" on the Columbine RPG. What the media didn't really mention is that Kimveer listed on his website quite a few other games that he had played. More significantly, one of them in common with what Columbine killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had played avidly: Postal. Frankly I think the violence and "disturbingness" factor of this game well exceeds Doom or really any other game of the time.

    You basically ran around with the sole purpose of killing a sufficient percentage of "hostiles" in the city. Wounded people would crawl along the ground leaving a trail of blood, crying in pain saying things like "I can't feel my legs!" or "I can't breathe!"... The audio in this game really completes the disturbing atmosphere. The ambient sound is some of the most creepy stuff I've heard in a game since, especially during some of the loading screens.

    Oh, did I mention the infamous marching band scene? (A marching band is parading through town playing music - you can guess as to the craziness that ensues when you lob a molotov cocktail in the middle of the group)...

    During all of this, whether you're on a senseless killing rampage or simply defending yourself from people trying to kill you is left for you to speculate - the loading screens give a bit of diary-style text written from the perspective of the player character, but that's all you have to go on. While he claims everyone is out to get him, as you progress further into the game you really begin to feel like maybe 'you' are just a psycho killer who is completely delusional, killing innocent people who are only armed because they know there's some rampaging killer on the loose. Gee, sound familiar at all to the "everyone is out to get me" attitude of basically every school shooter in recent history? Not to mention that the player character is wearing a full-length trenchcoat, no less.

    So, after hearing all this, and the fact that it was a game avidly played by at least three of the most infamous school shooters, I have trouble believing it wouldn't be a larger influence behind someone's violent actions than a low-tech "fan made" style of game (not to mention that Kimveer very likely just put "Columbine RPG" on his list of favorite games for the sheer purpose of maintaining a certain image of himself).

    Of course, I just spent all that time explaining something that any journalist would never even have been aware of - they just jump on the Columbine RPG thing just because of its name and reputation, despite how blatantly more extreme and disturbing Postal is. Regardless, Postal is definitely a key game that has gone largely overlooked despite its significance/value to at least a few notorious school shooters...