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Former Spammer Reveals Secrets in New Book

StonyandCher writes "A retired spammer is looking to make money from a tell-all book rather than fleecing people dependent on pharmaceuticals and people with gambling problems. In this Computerworld article 'Ed', a retired spammer, predicts the spam problem will only get worse, aided by consumers with dependencies and faster broadband speeds. From the article: 'He sent spam to recovering gambling addicts enticing them to gambling Web sites. He used e-mail addresses of people known to have bought antianxiety medication or antidepressants and targeted them with pharmaceutical spam. Response rates to spam tend to be a fraction of 1 percent. But Ed said he once got a 30 percent response rate for a campaign. The product? A niche type of adult entertainment: photos of fully clothed women popping balloons ... "Yes, I know I'm going to hell," said Ed."

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  1. Let me guess... by Fx.Dr · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a pop-up book? Sorry, couldn't resist.

  2. One Percent With No Communication Cost! by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the article: 'He sent spam to recovering gambling addicts enticing them to gambling Web sites. He used e-mail addresses of people known to have bought antianxiety medication or antidepressants and targeted them with pharmaceutical spam. Response rates to spam tend to be a fraction of 1 percent.

    I work with targeted communications and our success rates with similar lists are just as "successful". We were looking to contact Juniors and Seniors in HS to let them know of our offerings and had a list that supposedly contained names and addresses (no e-mail/phone) of people that would be in this demographic. Out of 9800 people we had a 0.93% response rate. Being that the cost of that list was as low as it was we will do it again...

    I can only imagine what an advantage it is having such a low communication cost (it costs us .41/each) and having a 1% return rate... If only I could retire on the money I make ;)

  3. photos of fully clothed women popping balloons by klenwell · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's the only kind of adult entertainment fully endorsed by my church and my local clown guild.

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  4. Wow! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

    But Ed said he once got a 30 percent response rate for a campaign. The product? A niche type of adult entertainment: photos of fully clothed women popping balloons ... "Yes, I know I'm going to hell"

    I've never gotten such spam.

    I'm surprised it was only 30% -- that kind of thing is bound to pique the interest of a whole lotta people.

    (Oh, come on, admit it, you're googling it right now, aren't you? Oh, maybe I'm going to hell too ;-)

    Cheers
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    1. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oddly enough, if you combine the two fetishes (GPs male-only fetish and your female equivalent), you get something entirely normal and even a recommended practice to avoid pregnancy and STDs....

  5. Sod the spammer, how about the sources of his info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'He sent spam to recovering gambling addicts enticing them to gambling Web sites. He used e-mail addresses of people known to have bought antianxiety medication or antidepressants and targeted them with pharmaceutical spam. '

    Some companies dealing with confidential information clearly have been passing on this information.

    This guy should be forced to disclose where he got the information from, so that these companies can be punished for poor data security, or worse, actually selling such sensitive private information on.

    I also believe that there are laws against the exploitation of vulnerable people, but they're probably next to useless, and poorly defined (or specifically defined, so won't apply to X because it only mentions Y).

  6. Jeeze! It is too simple by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as there is demand, and the business is profitable, you will have spam. Trying to get rid of spammers will only make it more profitable and worth the risks for those remaining. Wake up! It is no different than anything else. The customer drives this business, not the seller. They(the seller) are simply a response. Talk about passing the buck!

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  7. I don't believe in an afterlife... by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but part of me wants there to be a very special hell for spammers (and people who talk in the theater).

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  8. Re: Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Watching her inflate the balloon too much... you know it's gonna pop, you know she knows it... but she just keeps going... <<shiver>>

  9. Re:Good news by lena_10326 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This also reinforces my assumption that for the most part spamming is just a way to make some easy money without much real work. Most people are not going to get rich off it, but if one is a country where a few thousand a year is good money, then hey, it beats doing honest work. It might even product the 20K a year one needs to live in the US. But like any organized crime, a few get insanely rich, and the rest get knocked off for pocket change.
    I know an owner of a legitimate "spam" business. The owner grosses over $20 million a year with an approximate 50% margin of profit. The amount of money made depends on several factors that are difficult to maintain over time, which is why you don't see everyone making 10's of millions dollars off spam.
    • a clean email list - cleaning an email list requires sending an email and not receiving a bounce. There is risk in testing the email because if you test too many bad ones you can get blocked, but once it's tested it's worth considerably more than an unclean email.
    • list of active users - users who opened or clicked. An order of magnitude more valuable than a clean email.
    • relationships - avoiding email blocks and getting unblocked
    • distributed servers - avoid email blocks by sending from and rotating multiple IPs. The more you have, the more stable the delivery is.
    • delivery - your email has to make it to the inbox. An order of magnitude more valuable than Bulk box delivery. Bulk delivery is still better than no delivery, which can be the case if you're blocked.
    If you have all those factors in your favor, you can sustain the profits, which is what the major "legitimate" commercial emailers do. The true spammers are usually a bit more shitty, using trojans and disposable accounts, but achieve the same effect, usually at the cost of the ISP, however they're risking jail time if they're caught.

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  10. Re:Actually... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My guess? Right before he wrote that, he created a website with women popping balloons and is now making tons of revenue off the huge volume of views the ads on the site are getting now that it's being /.'d.