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Does ODF Have a Future?

qedramania writes "Linuxworld seems to think ODF is a dead duck. Is the Windows monopoly too big and too entrenched? Other than diehard Linux fans, does anyone really care if they have to keep paying Microsoft to do basic word processing? It seems as though the momentum is towards a complete Microsoft monoculture in software for business and government. You can bet that big business and governments will want more than just reliability from Microsoft in return for their acquiescence. Does ODF have a future?"

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  1. Largely an attitude thing by MeditationSensation · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't think it's a technical issue at all, it's just what people "know". Whenever I go on a job hunt people ask for my resume "in a Word .doc", as if that's the only possible format.

  2. Think "world" instead of "USofA". by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What motivation do other countries have to send their tax dollars to Redmond so that they can write local laws?

    ODF is not going to take off in the US until AFTER the rest of the world has adopted it. So let's look at what other governments and such are adopting Linux / ODF.

    1. Re:Think "world" instead of "USofA". by Trebinor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kind of like the metric system.

  3. OOXML means Windows-only by martin-k · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you accept OOXML as your organization's file format, you are limiting yourself to Windows. The specs contain many Windows-specific things (for example, EMF and VML) that it's very hard to implement on a non-Windows platform. Why would you as a purchaser want to do that, while you still have a choice in desktop operating systems?

    I prefer OpenDocument, and I am putting my money into it: OpenDocument export is finally finished for our TextMaker word processor and will be released in a few days.

  4. LinuxWorld = Pro Microsoft FUDster by Luft08091950 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First of all "Linuxworld" is anything but. They should be required to change their name to "MicrosoftFUDsterPretendingToRepresentLinux." This would at least clue readers into the fact that they're anti-Linux.

    LinuxWorld is just trolling and spreading FUD with their "just too big, why bother, you can't win, give up, don't try, it'll never work, it can't happen, you're just wasting your time, resistance is futile" rhetoric

    Their words are as dog farts. They are not to be considered!

  5. You're missing the point... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ODF isn't there to dethrone MS as the word processor of choice, to think so is a bit foolish. It's there to provide a format that *everyone* can use. I will continue to use MS Office because I think it's a superior product, but ODF allows me to *save* my MS Office documents to format that *anyone* else can use, but more importantly convert from when I want to read my own documents in 20 years.

    Remember, ODF is not a platform, word processor, gizmo, Office killer, etc. It's only a standard in which to format documents.

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  6. Prime Issue by WED+Fan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Folks, this is the heart of the matter. This is what needs to be understood by both sides of the argument:

    If you accept OOXML as your organization's file format...

    What the poster misses is that people don't ... D O N O T accept or reject a file format. They, with the small subset of geeks on /., don't give a flip about file format. They accept or reject a program.

    For ODF to be accepted, it has to be part of a program that most users have installed.

    Program acceptance is usually established by:

    • Home users: Use what they have at the office, or what came installed on the system
    • Businesses: Use what is considered the business standard for their vertical, especially if other businesses require a particular program (vicious cycle)
    • Perception of Support: He who has the biggest company must have the best support, or, so it is perceived. Also, many bosses and dicision makers have a problem with OSS because they perceive a lack of support structure "Gee, this CAD program is nice but its OSS. Doesn't that mean its 2 kids in their parent's basement?"
    • Perception of Longevity: He who has the biggest company will be around for a long time, or, so it is...(it took both Hyundai and Kia years to get established in the U.S. because no one knew if they'd be around)
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  7. Re:Tail wagging the dog by moeinvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "File format isn't what people are worried about when purchasing software, it's the software itself!"

    That's not the debate here!

    We're talking about the format being used to create and store publicly owned information. The government is funded by the citizens. The citizen should not have to pay an additional Microsoft tax in order to access government documents. The government SHOULD BE worried, even though they probably are not. Even if ODF is adopted as the standard, MS has the option of supporting it in their applications along with everyone else. The reverse isn't true if the government decides to institutionalize vendor lock-in.

  8. Re:Just a Question Never Answered Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    RTF is outdated. It's like HTML3.2 on the web: it's capable of recording formatting decisions but not of indicating structure.

    A properly prepared word-processing document these days, whether written with Open Office Writer, Word, or any other decent wp-program, is prepared using styles. You can't do that with RTF. It was inevitable that someone would come up with an XML-based format at some time, because RTF is just too inflexible and incapable of structuring a document.

  9. Re:You don't need MS Office to create .doc files by PinkPanther · · Score: 5, Informative
    Because the .doc file may contain inadvertent materials. They often contain information that has been "deleted"; simply turn on tracking mode and you can see previous edits. Getting rid of these artifacts is non-obvious and often involves downloading a tool that is not a core part of MS-Office.

    This becomes a MAJOR problem in an environment where templates have not been created and/or maintained properly and efficiently. Often employees will take an existing document, ctrl-A, DEL, File-> Save As..., then start typing to create a "new" document simply to get the "corporate headers". If that initial document contained sensitive information, would you want this "new" .doc being emailed about?

    This has been a problem in the past.

    The fact that a /. reader doesn't see the problem with employees sending .doc files via email is all the more reason to worry....or to simply submit...

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  10. Re:You don't need MS Office to create .doc files by rben · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a writer and I've been gradually convincing some of the other writers I interact with to try out Open Office. Most who try it never go back to Word.

    It's hard to sell a file format. What people buy into is the product that uses the file format. The best way to spread ODF is to continue to improve the products that use it, so people will choose them over the alternative.

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  11. Re:You don't need MS Office to create .doc files by SiChemist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you have a link to the Linux version? How about the Mac version?

    Why not use a document exchange format that is natively supported on many platforms and which has a free viewer for Windows?