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Newfound Planet Has Earth-Like Orbit

Raver32 writes with a link to the Space.com site, and an article discussing an extra-solar planet that looks a lot like ours from a distance. At least, its orbit does. The planet is located about 300 light years away, in the constellation Perseus. It circles its giant red star every 360 days and was discovered by 'looking for wobble', the shift in a star's movement that hints at orbiting planets. "The discovery could help astronomers understand what will happen to our sun's brood of planets when it exhausts its store of hydrogen fuel and its outer envelope begins to swell. When that happens in an estimated 5 billion years, our sun will be so big that it will engulf the inner planets and most likely Earth. But long before that happens, life on our planet will have perished and its seas will have boiled away."

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  1. Re:5 billion years is a long time... by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somehow I doubt they're interested in studying this so they can come up with survival strategies for when our Sun goes all Red Giant on us. I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that when the time comes, a Bruce Willis and nuclear weapons based solution will present itself.

    This sort of discovery is really more useful in a "science for science's sake" sort of way. Plus, as we continue to improve our abilities to spot distant planets, we improve our chances of finding an Earth-like planet that may harbor life, particularly hot green space-babe life. Such a discovery would certainly propel space exploration back into "top priority" status.

  2. Life will be there after the oceans boil away by InterGuru · · Score: 4, Informative

    A Princeton-led research group has discovered an isolated community of bacteria nearly two miles underground that derives all of its energy from the decay of radioactive rocks rather than from sunlight.

    Subterrainian Microbes

    This type of bacterium, approximately four micrometers in length, has survived for millions of years on chemical food sources that derive from the radioactive decay of minerals in the surrounding rock, making it one of the few creatures known that does not depend on sunlight for nourishment.

    These will survive any surface conditions, until the heat penetrates two miles deep.

  3. Re:More Exciting by ZeroFactorial · · Score: 4, Funny

    In an unexpected turn of events, scientists have discovered that the universe is round and we were actually LOOKING AT OURSELVES through the massive telescope!!!

  4. Re:Right by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Intelligent people (and all people, really) like to work on things they're passionate about. There are plenty of very intelligent people who are passionate about solving the many issues that plague our civilization, and they are working very hard to do so. These particular intelligent people are passionate about finding new planets.

  5. To The Stars, Then. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful
    But long before that happens, life on our planet will have perished and its seas will have boiled away.

    Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics,
    and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet
    agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years,
    eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us.
    It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly,
    and Aristophanes...
    all of this... all of this...
    was for nothing.

    Unless we go to the stars.
    - J. Michael Straczynski

    I must be in the mood because there's a box sitting at home for me with The Lost Tales inside. :) It's been 10 years since I've seen some good new B5, so I may be a bit giddy today.
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  6. Not going to engulf Earth by teslar · · Score: 4, Informative

    When that happens in an estimated 5 billion years, our sun will be so big that it will engulf the inner planets and most likely Earth.
    Actually, this is incorrect. It will engulf the orbits. The planets themselves will just escape to wider orbits. Except Mercury, Mercury's pretty much buggered.

    More Red Giant trivia at Wikipedia.
  7. Re:5 billion years is a long time... by zapwow · · Score: 5, Funny

    That will be the next great "bad physics" movie: The sun has run out of hydrogen! We must drive a giant drill into the center of the SUN to explode twelve hydrogen bombs or America will be destroyed!

  8. ... No. by Cairnarvon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just because it orbits in 360 days doesn't mean it has an Earth-like orbit.

  9. Earthlike? Not likely... by _mythdraug_ · · Score: 5, Informative
    Earthlike in that it takes approximately the same number of days? Yes.

    Earthlike in any other way? Not likely.

    The Bad Astronomer had a nice examination of this article earlier today.

    1. Re:Earthlike? Not likely... by The+Bad+Astronomer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, thanks for the link love. I don't mean to downplay the discovery; it's very cool, and we're one-by-one building an actual catalog of extrasolar planets, which means we can do taxonomy on them. How cool is that? I just want people to understand that there ain't nothing Earthlike about the planet, so that we don't get people running around overblowing this news.

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  10. Re:More Exciting by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm with the other guy. While mass doesn't directly affect forming of life, I would wonder how intelligent beings would exist on a planet the size of jupiter. They certainly wouldn't be able to be as mobile as the life on earth, unless they had much better ways of getting energy. Even ignoring the fact that the would have to have really strong muscles and bones so that they could move (assuming they had muscles and bones), they would still need a lot of extra energy to move around on such a large planet. Also, for them to do any kind of space travel, escaping from such a large gravity would prove very difficult. Even if they were very intelligent, would they have any thought of flying? Since the gravity would be so strong, I would doubt that there would be any flying animals, or even leaves floating through the air to get the inspiration from.

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  11. Re:Change in Orbit by pauljlucas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, I have read that the earth may be pushed out to a farther orbit, so we wouldn't get 'swallowed' by an expanding sun.
    Right, because the sun will blow off mass into space. A less-massive sun will have weaker gravity so everything in orbit will move farther out.

    But it probably won't matter much because the sun as a red giant will be far hotter and far more luminous so the orbital distance increase won't be enough to compensate.

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