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How To Turn a Mini Maglite Into a Laser

Lucas123 writes "Using the laser from a DVD burner, this instructional video shows you how to create a hand-held laser that is powerful enough to light a match and pop a balloon. There's some soldering involved and the Maglite's bulb housing needs to be drilled out to fit the new laser diode, but with some basic skill, most people could do this. Just plain cool." Update: 07/09 12:23 GMT by KD : Warning, the device that results from following these instructions will blind you if you look into it.

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  1. Uhhh... by tonsofpcs · · Score: 5, Informative

    So basically you're not making a laser, you're just moving a laser from a drive into a flashlight case.

    1. Re:Uhhh... by Curien · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, thank you for repeating the article summary.

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    2. Re:Uhhh... by loganrapp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but now you can put it on sharks!

  2. Great... by sRev · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now when I go to the movies, instead of worrying about Brad Pitt having a red dot on his face, I have to worry about the screen igniting. Good times.

  3. Re:Sounds like fun. by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just tape balloons to people in strategic spots, I guess.

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  4. Careful with this thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the words of Rainier Wolfcastle:

    My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

  5. yeah baby by sudo · · Score: 4, Funny

    So where did I put those frikin sharks?

  6. Shark by wizardguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, so where do I get the shark ? and where is the manual on how to mount it on the shark ?

    1. Re:Shark by Vombatus · · Score: 4, Funny
      and where is the manual on how to mount it on the shark ?

      Mounting the laser could be a slight problem if the shark is conscious

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    2. Re:Shark by Pogdranaut · · Score: 5, Funny

      and where is the manual on how to mount it on the shark ? mount -t lamniformesh /dev/laser shark
    3. Re:Shark by Xemu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mounting the laser could be a slight problem if the shark is conscious

      Just turn the shark upside down before mounting, that makes it go into tonic immobility for about 20 minutes.

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    4. Re:Shark by NeuroManson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ew! Ick! TMI man, TMI.

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    5. Re:Shark by _pruegel_ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just turn the shark upside down before turning it upside down, that makes it go into tonic immobility for about 20 minutes.

  7. To repeat an old warning by stox · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Do not look into Laser with remaining eye!"

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    1. Re:To repeat an old warning by LarsG · · Score: 4, Informative

      With a 245mW laser, that should be modded informative, not funny. It is strong enough that it can cause permanent eye damage from a reflection, long before the blink reflex kicks in.

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  8. This is why I read Slashdot by olyar · · Score: 5, Funny
    Windows bashing? Witty comments? Duped stories? Comments about duped stories and how often they get posted? Soviet Russia and Overlord jokes? Left-leaning political commentary?

    Nope. None of those things.

    Articles about making lasers? Yes! Yes! It can light things on fire too?

    Excuse me. I think I may have just wet my pants.

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    1. Re:This is why I read Slashdot by Lane.exe · · Score: 5, Funny

      I for one welcome our laser-wielding Soviet Russian overlords with a Beowulf cluster of goggles that do nothing against Natalie Portman covered in hot grits making the first post on a duped story about the Cowboy Neal option for polls.

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    2. Re:This is why I read Slashdot by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      overlords running Linux on a Beowulf cluster...

      At least be complete, you insensitive clod.

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  9. Young Skywalker by infonography · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see you have constructed a new lightsaber. Your skills are complete, indeed you are powerful as the emperor has foreseen. - Darth Vader

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  10. BluRay by VariableGHz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think of (all?) the people who now have a good use for their BluRay players. ;P

  11. Re:Soddering? by billgates · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's an American thing. The rest of the English speaking world uses 'soldering'.

  12. Um, *excuse* me!? by edunbar93 · · Score: 5, Informative

    What part of "This product contains a Class 2 laser. Do not power on without enclosure" did you not understand? This has the potential for causing serious bodily harm, including but not limited to permanent blindness!

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    1. Re:Um, *excuse* me!? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're not the boss of me. I hate you! I hate you! God, my family sucks.

      Oh, sorry. I was channeling a 14 year old emo girl for a minute.

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  13. Dumbass in the comments by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Informative
    There is a guy in the comments section of the blog who is giving out dangerous advice:

    That thing might blind you if you stare at it but second or 2 blast won't do any damage. It took a bit to pop the balloon and your eyes are probably tougher than a balloon. That is so completely false.

    If you can pop a balloon with it, it is probably in the 100mw range which is enough to do permanent eye damage in 1/100th of a second. That's faster than you can blink. You won't go blind instantly, you'll just burn out a bunch of optic nerves, producing a 'hole' in your vision. Chances are, your brain will correct for the hole and you won't even know its there, unless an object ends up right at that point in your field of view, at which point it will 'magically' disappear.
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    1. Re:Dumbass in the comments by LarsG · · Score: 4, Informative

      The laser used in the article is said to be 245mW, so with regards to eye safety it would not be an exaggeration to say 'this is a weapon, not a toy'.

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  14. Re:Nice timing by hankwang · · Score: 5, Informative

    would other speed burners still work?

    Yes. But the main problem is that you need some way to limit the electric current through the diode. Laser diodes behave a bit like LEDs, electrically: below a threshold (2.5 V or so) there is little current and they don't do much, and above that threshold, every 0.1 V you add will increase the current and light output enormously. Too much current and the diode will die in a matter of seconds. Apparently the laser diode he used was just right at 3 V from two penlites, although I doubt that he had a calibrated laser power meter to measure whether the output power matched the nominal power rating for the diode. The simplest way to limit the current is to use a higher voltage and a series resistor. Something else is that the laser assembly in different optical writers sometimes doesn't have the collimating lens attached to the laser diode itself: without lens a laser diode produces a very divergent beam.

    Now for safety: I work with fairly high-power lasers (up to 25 W) for a living and consider a hand-held 250 mW laser in the hands of someone without appropriate training in laser safety hugely irresponsible. According to the IEC60825 standard on laser safety, 200 mW will lead to permament eye damage within 1 microsecond (!) of exposure. The reason laser pointers are restricted to 1 or 5 mW (depending on the country) is that for those powers, eye damage will occur after 0.3 seconds, which is about the time for the blinking reflex to close your eyes in the event of accidental exposure. Unexpected reflections from things like glass can be up to 10% of the beam power - 20 mW (eye damage in 10 microseconds).

  15. Re:This makes me sad. by Curien · · Score: 5, Informative

    It depends. In nickels (4.5g), the dollar is about 5 bucks per pound. If you use quarters (5.67g), you get about 20 bucks.

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  16. MY EYES! by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Funny

    MY EYES! The googles do nothing!

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  17. Re:Laser Housing by Slugster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Re: Is the metal housing really necessary? ....Yes, for the most part.

    I tried this some time back, and it didn't quite work, but I'll relate what I know anyway:

    1. There's TWO laser diodes in a DVD burner--remove them both out carefully, preserving as much of the leads already-soldered-on as you can! The leads of the laser diodes are very short (maybe 2mm) and only about a half-millimeter apart, it's damn tough to get the longer leads soldered back on if you cut them off, and there's no need to cut them off and then attempt to solder them back on anyway.

    2. Inside the DVD burner you will find TWO laser diodes, with mirrors that feed them both into the same beam. Each will be glued inside its own heatsink, a piece of metal that may be a very odd shape, and then these are attached to a bigger copper plate. To tell them apart, just test them--try applying 1.5V power to both diodes one at a time, the CD one is IR and won't appear to do anything. The DVD one will light up visible red. (if all the lenses are removed from them at this point, you cannot burn your eyes out, that's in the next step...)

    3. The bare laser diodes don't put out a laser "beam", they just create a pinpoint light (that's safe to look at!). To get the beam, you must mount a fisheye lens with its concave side set very close to the diode, almost touching it.

    4. The laser housing is a metal tube with a fisheye lense set in it. The laser diode will get warm with 1.5V on it, and will get too hot to hold in ~30 seconds with 3V on it. The laser housing serves partly as a heatsink, and also as a way to hold the lens without melting (the DVD-drive optics will have a fisheye lense, but those optics are usually set into little plastic frames, and they may melt in this use).

    ....Mine didn't work because I could not find a way to get the laser diode out of the original steel heatsink it came in. It was glued inside a hole about 6mm deep in a odd-shaped steel heatsink. You could maybe grind the heatsink away a bit at a time with a Dremel & cutoff wheel, but laser diodes are sensitive to heat, so you cant let the laser get too hot. I tried using mine still in its heatsink with other optics (telescope objectives and whatnot), and with those set in front of it, it would melt a garbage bag a little but wouldn't do much else.

    IF you manage to get one out and do this, don't run it for more than ~20 seconds at a time without letting it cool down for a minute or so. The laser diode will work with 3V batteries hooked straight to it, but you're definitely not going to get that 100,000 hour lifetime. You'd be lucky to get 1000 hours. The DVD laser output power is typically around 210mW, and more than 150mW is enough to burn stuff (the CD laser won't burn stuff because it's only around 40-50mW max).
    ~

  18. Re:Sure by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Green lasers can put out more energy because of their design in general. Now from the demo, it looks like this red diode is more powerful than the ones normally used in laser pointers, not sure on its power. I don't know what the maximum is, but it is in the 100s of mW. I don't know about the orange or blue diodes, haven't really looked at them. The problem is that they are rather expensive so I don't think you'll want to buy them. D batteries have the same voltage as A batteries, just more storage capacity. So using those will make it last longer. As a practical matter, the voltage you feed it needs to be whatever it was designed to take, so if 3 volts is what is called for, do not go over or under that, you'll probably just screw up your stuff.

    One thing to note though is that green laser are more complicated. There isn't actually a single diode that does green, rather it is an IR light that's generated and then frequency doubled to make green. In fact one would probably get more energy per square mm by simply using the IR output. Of course that is even more dangerous since you can't see IR and thus could be lasing your eyes and not know it.

    Before you do this, note three things:

    1) You can buy lasers over 5mW commercially. Just search Google for it, it isn't illegal or anything.

    2) To own and operate any laser over 5mW requires a license. You are responsible for getting it from the FDA.

    3) Messing with high power lasers (and yes over 5mW is high power in the laser world) is rather dangerous. That's why there's the limits. If you have a 100+mW laser, which is around what you'd need to light a match, even the reflected light could damage your vision permanently if you hit your eye. Given that you don't seem to know much bout lasers, best not to fuck around with this. Consider that the sun provides about 1000 watts per square meter to the earth, and that looking right at it will damage your sight in a few minutes if you aren't protected. That works out to about 1mW per square mm. So take a laser, who's dot is only around a square mm or two, then consider its power. Yes, it really is brighter than the sun. When you are talking about some of these high power 3B lasers, they are MANY times brighter than the sun. Don't play with powerful lasers until you learn about them.

  19. Dangerous by KDan · · Score: 5, Informative

    What the article doesn't, and should say:

    This is a very dangerous toy

    IT WILL BLIND YOU IMMEDIATELY IF:

    - You look at it
    - You shine it on a reflective surface that shines it back into your eye

    No joke, people. Don't try this at home. I'd actually argue that this video is irresponsible since it does not mention the dangers of the item being built at any point. It will probably be uploaded on Youtube and a lot of innocent, curious kids will end up with one fewer eye as a result of this video.

    DO NOT USE UNSAFE LASERS WITHOUT WEARING THE APPROPRIATE PROTECTIVE GEAR (special goggles can be obtained for specific wavelengths, which will ensure that you cannot see the laser - and hence it can't hurt you).

    Daniel (who was paying attention during the Physics Dept 'laser safety' lecture)

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    1. Re:Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apologies for replying to my own comment...

      TO EDITORS: PLEASE ADD SAFETY WARNING TO THE ARTICLE SUMMARY!
      This is an irresponsibly dangerous video with no safety warning.

    2. Re:Dangerous by JohnFluxx · · Score: 5, Informative

      I nearly blinded myself. I work with lasers, and was trying to align one of the mirrors. I misaligned one slightly, causing the beam to shine in my eye. I looked away immediately, but could only see darkness in that eye. I was so shit scared.

      I was in a foreign country. The company I worked for rushed me to hospital and this foreign doctor explains to my collegues that she needs to inject a needle in behind the back of my eye. You need to prevent the back of the eye from bruising and swelling up.

      She takes out her book of english and says slowly "This will..... hurt". And it did.

      Thankfully after 2 weeks my eyesight was back to normal.

      So please everyone - do be very careful. And if anything happens, it is _vital_ to get to a _eye_ hospital as soon as possible.

    3. Re:Dangerous by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pfft, it's "just plain cool" - ain't no way it can be unsafe!

      Next week on /. - how to convert your BB gun to fire 9mm rounds!

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    4. Re:Dangerous by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      this foreign doctor explains to my collegues that she needs to inject a needle in behind the back of my eye.

      She takes out her book of english and says slowly "This will..... hurt".
      Thank you for giving me tonight's horrible nightmare.

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    5. Re:Dangerous by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the point here is that a little itty bitty laser diode doesn't seem intrinsically dangerous to a lot of people. A knife, for some reason, is easier to understand that it can and will cut you if it is mishandled. But a little self-education on the dangers of a knife generally doesn't result in blindness.

      The only saving grace in this article and video is that the beam will hopefully not be that well collimated over a longer distance and when idiots shine it at other people, the damage will be less and the people will have time to look away before they get serious damage.

      Also, a laser like this would probably leave lines or dots burned into the retina. It isn't as bad as a pulsed laser that can literally rip the retina off the back wall of the eye because of what are essentially sonic booms in the eye due to the fast rise times and heating pulses. But if it can burn a hole in a piece of paper, imagine what it can do to all your rods and cones when your eye focusses the beam into an even smaller and more intense spot in your eye.

      I agree with all the other posters who say the video should be removed and that this article should be pulled.

    6. Re:Dangerous by Himring · · Score: 4, Funny

      The editors cannot change the article as they have killed themselves with their new maglite lasers....

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    7. Re:Dangerous by kotj.mf · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is a very dangerous toy

      IT WILL BLIND YOU IMMEDIATELY IF:

      - You look at it
      - You shine it on a reflective surface that shines it back into your eye

      Pussy.

      I've got one sitting right here on my desk, and I can shine it in to my eyes with absolutely no problems. Allow me to demonstrate...

      Srr?

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    8. Re:Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      If you liked that, here's a charming story from Laser Focus, August 1977.

      When the beam struck my eye I heard a distinct popping sound, caused by a laser-induced explosion at the back of my eyeball. My vision was obscured almost immediately by streams of blood floating in the vitreous humor, and by what appeared to be particulate matter suspended in the vitreous humor. It was like viewing the world through a round fishbowl full of glycerol into which a quart of blood and a handful of black pepper have been partially mixed. There was local pain within a few minutes of the accident, but it did not become excruciating. The most immediate response after such an accident is horror. As a Vietnam War Veteran, I have seen terrible scenes of human carnage, but none affected me more than viewing the world through my bloodfilled eyeball. In the aftermath of the accident I went into shock, as is typical in personal injury accidents.

      As it turns out, my injury was severe but not nearly as bad as it might have been. I was not looking directly at the prism from which the beam had reflected, so the retinal damage is not in the fovea. The beam struck my retina between the fovea and the optic nerve, missing the optic nerve by about three millimeters. Had the focused beam struck the fovea, I should have sustained a blind spot in the center of my field of visions. Had it struck the optic nerve, I probably would have lost sight of that eye.

      The beam did strike so close to the optic nerve, however, that it severed nerve-fiber bundles radiating from the optic nerve. This has resulted in a crescent-shaped blind spot many times the size of the lesion.

      The diagram is a Goldman-Fields scan of the damaged eye, indicating the sightless portions of my field of view four months after the accident. The small blind spot at the top exists for no discernible reason; the lateral blind spot is the optic nerve blind spot. The effect of the large blind area is much like having a finger placed over one's filed of vision. Also, I still have numerous floating objects in the field of view of my damaged eye, although the blood streamers have disappeared. These `floaters' are more a daily hindrance than the blind areas, because the brain tries to integrate out the blind area when the undamaged eye is open. There is also recurrent pain in the eye, especially when have been reading too long or when I get tired. This was caused by a reflection from an infrared laser beam of fairly low power (a 10 ns pulse totalling 6 millijoules). Note that the researcher wasn't actually looking directly at the reflection... the reflected beam was just in his field of vision and directed toward one of his eyes. So for those people who think 'not looking at the beam' is an adequate safety procedure... it isn't.
    9. Re:Dangerous by jahudabudy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your idea of cleaning piss stains off of sheets is hanging the sheets out to dry? I think you misunderstood what your mom meant when she said she liked having crisp sheets on the bed.

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    10. Re:Dangerous by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      No problem. He just need to wait until a reply gets modded up +5 Informative. That's a sure way to guarantee that anything posted on Slashdot will be accurate, with correct precision, and not be filled with crackpot theories, right?

    11. Re:Dangerous by Ash+Vince · · Score: 4, Informative

      Next week on /. - how to convert your BB gun to fire 9mm rounds! You do realise that this can be done to certain models? Here are some links :)

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2003/01/05/ngun105.xml
      http://www.criminal-information-agency.com/firearm s_record.php?id=8
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    12. Re:Dangerous by dintech · · Score: 5, Informative

      My contact lenses block the government mind control frequency being sent through the television.

    13. Re:Dangerous by skeeto · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is a very dangerous toy

      IT WILL BLIND YOU IMMEDIATELY

      Humbug! All my life they have been telling me masturbation does the same exact thing.

    14. Re:Dangerous by RealGrouchy · · Score: 5, Funny

      It will probably be uploaded on Youtube and a lot of innocent, curious kids will end up with one fewer eye as a result of this video. Yes, but on the bright side the eye patches will help identify the willing-to-do-anything children at a distance, and we need more pirates anyway.

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    15. Re:Dangerous by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, if the little turds use one of these modified pointers, you can easily find and pound their asses.

      Jacking up the power like this make the ENTIRE BEAM visible, not just the point.

      I still want a laser powerful enough to deface bumper stickers and write insults into the paint on cars...

    16. Re:Dangerous by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Funny
      Jacking up the power like this make the ENTIRE BEAM visible, not just the point.

      Visible means little when you're blind.

    17. Re:Dangerous by llevity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not so much the idiots blinding themselves, as a previous poster pointed out. It's them blinding everyone else around them that's more worrying. You know, the ones that bring laser points to movie theaters? One malicious person could go to the front and start randomly shining it over the crowd.

    18. Re:Dangerous by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean to teach people with such crippled intellect and no social or emotional control that they would take from or harm people for their own fun ... well to teach them that there is no consequence to their actions? Good idea, that'll stop them.

      Please, pull your head out of your ass. The lack of oxygen is causing brain damage. You are confusing a nice ideas with the reality of human nature. There will always be asshats who don't and won't care about others, will take from others or harm others to satisfy their own pleasures, and only avoid these avenues when they cause discomfort for themselves. So good idea, let's remove consequences for bad behaviour.

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  20. Re:Mods, wake up! by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No. Decidedly, no. Information has never and will never cause harm. It cannot. I do agree that some information, like certain pictures, can cause bodily harm because they induce the reproduction of your last meal, but you're free to ignore said information and keep your ham and eggs with you.

    If someone is dumb enough to use the information and blinds himself, he's the only one to blame for it. That something like this is harmful should be obvious. If it's not, this is due to the person having not enough information on the subject to see the problem.

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  21. Blinding lasers are banned. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Informative

    Such weapons are illegal under the Geneva Convention, as is any other weapon expressly designed only to maim. Laser weapons also have further clarification in the form of The UN Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons.

    Weapons that do maim are undeniably effective, since it not only deprives your enemy of the soldier, but also the resources required to provide him with medical attention, and to support him when he is no longer able to be productive. Anti-personnel land mines are the chief example of weapons which fall into a grey area here - most of them are potentially lethal, but most often fall short and leave their targets maimed.

    There have been various plans to produce merely incapacitating light-weapons, but in practice, it is difficult to produce a device than can dazzle your opponent without at least some chance of permanent damage.

  22. Meanwhile, back at the White House, a plan develop by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bush: We've go to do something to get rid of all those dangerous hackers.

    Vader: Perhaps we could post a video showing them how to make a dangerous weapon that they would accidentally use on themselves.

    Jobs: Hmmm... there's a dangerous laser in DVD burners.

    Gates: Yeah, let's hope that works better than your plan to make them all deaf with your stupid iPod, or get them run over walking across the street, playing with their iPhone.

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  23. Laser diode may not last too long run like this... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Laser diodes generally require some type of current limiting to prevent damage. In the DVD burner circuit, that is the function of the third pin on the diode package (that the article simply blows off as "not used"). This pin connects to an internal photodiode, which is used to measure output power, and provide feedback through an external driver circuit to continuously control the current applied to the laser diode junction.

    The article simply places the laser diode directly across the 3V battery supply, with not even a ballast resistor to limit the current. You might get away with this with AA batteries, but if someone were to try this trick with a D-cell maglite, they would most likely let the magic smoke out of the laser very quickly.

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  24. Laser Safety, Standard Operating Procedures, Gear by mazanoid · · Score: 5, Informative
    Please mod this 5 and tack it up towards the top someone.

    Laser Standard Operating Procedures

    Laser Safety

    Check your particular DVD Rom, chances are fairly good that it's rated as a class I laser (non hazardous, but try not to stare directly at it...because like everything else it's probably made in china I wouldn't be surprised if to save a penny they underclassy the mW output to skip a safety inspection over in the usa heh)

    However, if it's a class II....

    The reason I am offering these links is because I doubt many people know that a class II laser beam will cause eye damage within as little as .026 seconds? 1-2 seconds could be more than enough to cause snow blindness style affects, headaches, and temporary eye tissue scarring?

    I got caught not wearing my ansi rated safety goggles at corning from a light gun and I couldn't see for about 3 days (snow blindness from intense UV exposure for 2 seconds). So let's practice some good sense people.

  25. I know about dead optic nerves by halr9000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    [so much for the modding I'd done in this thread.]

    Due to an infection I obtained when I was 2, I've got partial blindness in both eyes. The infection caused scar tissue to form on my retina smack in the good part (center of the optic nerve junction) of my left eye. I can see objects and make out large things but I can't read with that eye at all. Think of it like your peripheral vision. Try this: put a page of text a foot from your ear and try to read it--while looking straight ahead. That's what my vision is like when I close my right eye.

    The right eye has some similar damage, but luckily the scar tissue formed only over a smaller area which is not positioned over the center of the optic nerve junction. So back to the parent's comment about your brain compensating, I can tell you from experience--it depends on how much damage there is. I can read, I can drive and so on, but my brain has to work a bit harder to make a complete image. I don't have 20/20 vision (even with glasses), it's more like 20/50. (I can read text at 20 feet that you can read at 50 feet.) I have to hold things closer to read them than most people, and it's pretty hard to read road signs while driving.

    So the moral to the story is twofold:

    1. Sandboxes are bad, toxoplasmosis bacteria likes to grow there and kids that play in sandboxes inevitably will rub their eyes.
    2. Don't mess with lasers. Holes in your vision--not cool.

    (I almost died laughing when I saw the "donotlookatlaserwithremainingeye" tag. I have a special place in my heart/right-eye for that line.)