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Kaspersky Wins Important Ruling for the Anti-Malware Industry

ABC writes "Zango sued Kaspersky Lab to force the Company to reclassify Zango's programs as nonthreatening and to prevent Kaspersky Lab's security software from blocking Zango's potentially undesirable programs. In the important ruling for the anti-malware industry, Judge Coughenour of the Western District of Washington threw out Zango's lawsuit on the grounds that Kaspersky was immune from liability under the Communications Decency Act."

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  1. Wow, what a name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "In the important ruling for the anti-malware industry, Judge Coughenator of the Western District of Washington threw out Zango's lawsuit on the grounds that Kaspersky was immune from liability under the Communications Decency Act."


    Poor guy, that Coughenator...his lungs must be shot.
    1. Re:Wow, what a name... by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny
      I think they've missed a chance for major punnage..

      "In a phleghmboyant ruling for the anti-malware industry, Judge Coughenator of the Western District of Washington spat out Zango's lawsuit on the grounds that Kaspersky was immune from liability under the Communications Decency Act."
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      which is totally what she said
  2. Wait, what? by slughead · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, well on the box, why don't they just say "Removes spyware, malware, viruses... and Zango"

    Wouldn't that take care of the legal problem?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keep out of reach of malware authors.

      Please note: this product is not intended as a substitute for braincells.

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      which is totally what she said
  3. CDA Trumps Constitution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "the Communications Decency Act, part of which states: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected, or any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to [such] material.""

    I don't like this at all. It seems to me to indicate that my ISP can block me from p0rn, for my own good, and I have no recourse. And it doesn't matter if it is constitutionally protected material? WTF?

    1. Re:CDA Trumps Constitution? by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      IANAL but I don't think it means that you ISP could block access to material at their discretion.

      "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected, or any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to [such] material."

      So what I take from that is that you have to want the service to block said material AND said service must be "interactive", which I assume means that you have to run it yourself and have a direct say in what it does.

  4. Good result. Questionable Logic. by Compulawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have not read the full opinion yet, but I am at a loss to see how this fits under the CDA's definition of an "interactive computer service." I thought that Kaspersky, like most virus detection programs, ran as a process on the user's machine and only connected to a server for definitions updates. if so, I can't see how that classifies as an "interactive computer service" under the act. Then again, maybe I'm just not being creative enough in my statutory interpretation.

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  5. Hooray! by Toad-san · · Score: 4, Funny

    And god damn zango!

    I mean that in the nicest possible way, of course.

    Oh, and god damn their lawyers too.

  6. Re:In Soviet Russia... by jonbryce · · Score: 4, Informative

    They have offices in the US, from which they sell their software to US customers.

  7. Remember when... by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember "back in the day" when spyware was still something you needed a separate scanner (Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, etc..) for.

    My pet theory was that since a lot of the spyware was coming from legit (but questionable) companies, the major antivirus players were afraid of touching it due to the threat of these kinds of lawsuits. Even though spyware and malware has since grown to such a pervasive problem that the big AV firms have gotten on board, I bet they were all watching the outcome of this suit. I for one am really happy that the ruling went in Kaspersky's favor, and shudder to think what would have happened if it hadn't.

    Hopefully this ruling will send notice that you can't hide behind "restraint of trade" to keep antivirus / antispam programs from calling a spade a spade.

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    1. Re:Remember when... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I remember "back in the day" when spyware was still something you needed a separate scanner (Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, etc..) for.

      Uh, someone remind me what the modern way to remove spyware is?

      I still use those programs :-/

    2. Re:Remember when... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, because everyone knows how to find the registry, everyone knows how to find how to find the registry, everyone knows how to interpret the registry, everyone knows how to kill programs running as "SYSTEM" and keep them from running again, and all malware is immediately obvious as being on your hard drive.

      You're an idiot.

  8. hmmm by g0dsp33d · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm as much of a fanboy of the stick it to malware developers movement, but this is kind of sets off a few flags.

    Kaspersky was immune from liability under the Communications Decency Act, part of which states: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected, or any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to [such] material."


    It will be interesting to see two things: 1) how this cause stands up when something like Nortan AV "accidentally" gets blocked; 2)IANAL, but shouldn't this cover DRM? It falls under otherwise objectionable at the very least (filthy too, IMHO).
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  9. Congratulate Zango by Porchroof · · Score: 4, Funny

    Using its own form, I sent a message to Zango congratulating it on losing the lawsuit.

    Why don't all of you do the same?

    zango.com

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