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A Preview of Opera 9.5
jrowl writes "Opera 9.5 Alpha is scheduled to be released tomorrow, and CyberNet has a review of the browser's new features based on preview code. Some of the most prominent new options include a full history search, bookmark and Speed Dial syncing, and an 'Open with' menu option to pull up a website in another browser that's installed on your PC. 'This is one of those things that I had said Opera needs to work on the most. By this point, most Firefox users have grown accustomed to keeping their bookmarks synchronized with an online service. Now Opera users will have the same pleasure! All you need is a free My Opera account, and you'll be able to privately synchronize your bookmarks, Speed Dial sites, and Personal Bar with their server. You'll then be able to access that data whether you're at work, home, or anywhere! To setup synchronization just select the "Synchronize with My Opera" option from the File Menu.' There's also a video to go along with the text."
...to use when downloading a torrent. I prefer to use utorrent instead of the built-in Opera version, and I don't see any option to use an external program.
Richard Stallman, is that you?
tools > preferences > advanced > downloads > untick "hide files opened with opera", find "torrent", edit to your hearts content. Same for any other MIME type.
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go to opera:config and there is an option to disable the intergrated torrent handling. when you click on torrents now your OS should give you the choice what program to use
Sync your bookmarks with an online service? Sounds rather privacy invasive to me...
I think not, He'd be asking for GPL
If you want to further edit torrent functionality, take a look at opera:config.
I don't care about the source, as long as it runs on my Banana Phone(TM)!
The scary thing is that I think you're serious.
Tools > Preferences, click the Advanced tab, uncheck "hide file types opened with opera", search the list for "applicaion/x-bittorrent", click edit and select "open with default application".
.torrent file.
They really should make it much easier to change this, the opera client is horrible for those of us who are already familiar with other clients. It was probably designed for those people who don't really know what to do with a
Why does my post history abruptly stop? I want to laugh at the stupid things I posted as a kid.
To the best of my knowledge, Firefox does not have automatic syncing of bookmarks with a central server. There are definitely add-ons that allow it (such as foxmarks and the google toolbar (I think)). From this point of view, I think Opera has one up on Firefox by including it in the default installation (unless you don't believe in adding features to a browser that not everyone will use, of course).
Please note: I am not an Opera user. I use Firefox (with foxmarks).
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
Does this one come with the Source Code?
Fair enough, I'll stick with Konqueror, then.
Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
With the open/closed source thing set aside, Opera is superior to firefox by a large margin especially in security areas.
I agree.
..... and we have to make it look like a proper movement. And we have to convince ordinary people of why it's important. "Eat this nice cake, but don't ask what ingredients are in it because that's none of your business!"
You're not going to get very far being anonymous, though. Create a proper login and use it.
Meanwhile, we have to get writing to our elected representatives stressing the importance of Source Code Access and how it benefits everyone
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Nah. There are about 10 people out there that use it that care, so it doesn't matter how greedy they are. They must take in like $100 a year in revenue.
No, no. That's just Theo de Raadt. All the zealots look the same anyway,
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You're going to need a better metaphor. For instance, I've cooked tremendous amounts of food for large numbers of people, and most never cared how it was made.
Even throwing out the personal anecdote, there are a lot of "secret" recipes out there in various bakeries and restaurants, and even most food sold in stores gets vague with the ingredient list when it comes to flavoring.
Of course, in my opinion, source code access isn't all that important. It's nice when it's there, but I don't get my panties in a bunch when it isn't. And I'm one of the tiny minority of people worldwide who could understand it.
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There have been bookmark synchronization extensions for Opera already...
The synchronization still doesn't compare to Google browser sync.
Until I have a browser that's multiplatform, allows online synchronization of passwords, cookies and bookmarks (no manual FTPing files about, file shares -- don't work too well since I may have more than one computer's browser open), ability to import Firefox's passwords, cookies, bookmarks -- there is no alternative to Firefox for me.
I suppose at the very worst I could go through my passwords and enter them manually in Opera, but I have so many.
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
How are they greedy if they don't charge for their desktop browser, especially if that's the only browser of theirs that you use? If somebody is trying to integrate their program in with their system and make a profit off of it (e.g. Wii), then it makes sense to me that Opera should get a small profit. They don't have to, but I seriously question how doing so is Evil(TM)
Forcing everything to be open source wouldn't be a good thing.
Think of projects like Folding@Home.
If they'd release the source some idiot could change the source in a way that fake results (or something like that) get sent back to the server. If enough people would do that the whole project would get messed up.
Been eagerly awaiting Kestrel for months now. I already think Opera is miles ahead of any other browser around, these latest changes put it further ahead.
I tried Firefox for a while, but it was extremenly frustrating, security vunrabilities what seemed like every few days, and more bloat and memory useage that I wanted.
I tried Opera, and after an initial learning period, came to love it. The fact I can use Opera on my destkop, my mobile, my PS3, my Wii is a bonus. The fact I will soon be able to have synced bookmarks between all of these devices is awesome.
And, as far as being "A/C's" here, per my subject line above?
Well... how's this (for a viewpoint)??
"You will dress only in attire specially sanctioned by M.I.B. special services. You'll conform to the identity we give you. Eat where we tell you. Live where we tell you. From now on, you'll have no identifying marks of any kind. You will not stand out in any way. Your entire image is crafted to leave no lasting memory with anyone you encounter. You are a rumor, recognizable only as deja vu, and dismissed just as quickly. You don't exist. You were never even born. Anonymity is your name, silence is your native tongue. You are no longer part of the system. You are above the system, over it, beyond it. We're "them." We're "they." We are the Men in Black." - Zed, to Agent J & Agent K
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Kestrel (9.5) should fix a lot of problems with Google services.
What i would like to see is a way to synchronize both Opera and Firefox Bookmarks with each other seamlessly.
All solutions I have seen so far seemed to result in either overwritten or duplicated bookmarks.
Synchronizing passwords would be nice too.
This forced me to choose one browser for almost all my surfing, which ended up being opera, but I figure others may choose differently, so this would benefit Opera too.
Theo de Raadt is that you?
There, fixed the GP post...
...although there's a few features that haven't been mentioned here but were part of the developer announcement, including:
Faster tab switching in UNIX (this is one of my biggest irritations about opera at the moment - tab switchng under windows is nearly instantaneous, under X there's a perceptible delay)
QT4 builds
64bit builds
I imagine alot of this comes from the new rendering engine which is probably 64bit clean. It would have been nice to be able to configure bookmark syncing to use something other than an external web host (it's blocked for me at work), for example using FTP or WebDAV, or even just an external shared folder.
Opera still doesn't work well with my company's filters, all of which require NTLM auth. Opera still doesn't seem to manage this successfully and asks for for a password every time I open a page, unless I pass through a local NTM proxy (NTLMAPS).
That said, it's still my favourite browser under Linux and Windows.
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Nothing in the openness of closedness of the code preventes anyone from changing the results of Folding@Home... that would be security through obscurity,something we know does not work (or you should now after being in slashdot since... forever AC).
The proper way to prevent such things is via cyptographic techniques sucha as encryption and/or digital signatures, which I know not a lot about but am sure a fellow slashdotter eager to demonstrate their knowledge will extend upon.
Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
http://www.apple.com/safari/
:-)
According to Apple's "objective" benchmarks, Safari and Opera are tied for everything except HTML load performance, which doesn't count because Safari cheated.
It will be interesting to see how the 9.5 performance improvements affect this
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Son?!
Aside from the welcome tweak to the "remember password?" dialog, I'm satisfied with the browser as-is. I'm more excited about the rendering engine upgrades, like the improved CSS support.
...And when will we get the 3d Canvas?
Have they also improved SVG & XSLT support? Specifically, cross-document <use/> and the "document()" selector?
You know, you could do it anyway by disassembling it. Not that I'd condone such activity (sending wrong data to the FAH servers); infact, I'd report anyone who engaged in such behavior, and hope he'd get what he deserves (two years in jail, perhaps).
Light, fast, loads quickly, rarely crashes, has some innovative features that the vaunted Apple "interface gurus" could learn from. What's not to like about Opera? I'd like to see it market itself more aggressively.
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Errm, 9.5 Kestrel comes in 64bit builds for *nix systems (no Win/Mac 64..)
Does Opera 9.5 have a UI for this function yet?
You've never eaten a hot-dog?
If we're going to pull 'facts' out of our collective ass, I'll state that most Firefox users probably don't even realise you can do such a thing.
-- "I know that this is vitriol, no solution, spleen-venting, but I feel better having screamed, don't you ?"
...And Mozilla is forgetting the very nice Thunderbird.
I knew there was a reason why, when the summary implied that "everyone who uses Firefox is syncing their bookmarks," I had never heard of such a thing. From the Foxmarks Web site:
Great. Another service driven by selling marketing data about me to companies I've never heard of. No f'in thank you.Breakfast served all day!
as they dont have a system to block ads using an updating block list all the benefits are useless to me
Easy as that, you can also edit the advert URL to add wildcards.
Opera has better ad blocking that any other browser I have seen (Including Firefox).
By this point, most Firefox users have grown accustomed to keeping their bookmarks synchronized with an online service
Oh really? I've been using it since it was Phoenix and didn't know it could do this. Nor have I ever read about anyone doing this, nor talked with any of my many Firefox-using friends who mentioned it.
Nahhh, he said BSDL, it must be Theo :-P
Because everything else does and at my work we're about to make opera users very sad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPNEGO
Netscape Communicator 4.5-4.8 had roaming profiles which sync'ed your bookmarks with a LDAP server and your address book, cookies too. This feature kept me using Netscape long after it was really dead, for some reason people seem to have forgotten about this great feature. http://www.acns.colostate.edu/aspx/www.acns/bulls/ nsroaming_whatsroaming.html http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/1411/LWD990901netsca pe/ http://www.geocities.com/petru2/netscape_roaming.h tml
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
Can RSS feeds be synced with myopera.com?
Sure, Opera is fast ..
But speed doesnt matter when it fails to display so many web pages properly.
Call me back when Opera is as compatible with websites as Firefox or IE.
George Bush + Linux = "I will not let information get in the way of the fight against Windows"
ok i didnt RTFA but what about sessions? ./ articles i want to read later and just klick them to open in a new tab.
i use to have constant about 10 to 20 tabs open which reopen when i open opera again.
also some stuff doesnt deserve bookmarks like 4chan threads and
Opera is up to version 9.5 and there's STILL no SOCKS5 support?
is a good idea. Do we know their servers can keep up with the load of every Opera user syncing their bookmarks?
Being able to sync with any service would be better. Is that available?
I frequently consider dumping Firefox for Opera, as I'm getting really tired of random Firefox bugs and performance problems with heavy JavaScript sites. Today I tried to upload some images to ImageShack - first, Firefox wouldn't do the login properly, then after an image or two it insisted on trying to open the PHP page instead of returning the updated page to me. I don't know if this was strictly a problem with Firefox or a problem with the ImageShack server, but a reboot eliminated the problem. It would seem Firefox simply got confused about the JavaScript involved somehow.
I do appreciate some of the extensions to Firefox such as DownThemAll and ImageHost Grabber. But they really need to concentrate more on making it rock solid rather than adding features. Opera has had its problems, too - I've had issues with downloads failing if I'm browsing in Firefox at the same time - probably some sort of timeout issue.
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Those leaks are features or caused by extensions (even on a fresh install of Firefox). Sheesh, don't you read anything Mozilla say as soon as anyone points out the massive RAM usage?
I realize the parent is just a troll, but I want to point out that Opera is definately not evil! I have been working for Opera since may, and I have found the culture within the company is amazing! The environment is great and the people working there are very friendly.
:-) Right here I actually get somewhere around 1Mb connection, wireless! Now I can talk to my brother who is studying in Australia for free.
On friday August 10th, I became very ill. I was rushed to a hospital and was given treatment. After two days and a lot of tests, the doctors found that my heart is not working as it should. It seems that I have had this condition for quite a while, at least for several years.
Long story short, I'm still in the hospital and tomorrow I'm operating in an ICD, a heart starter. All the time while I've been here, Anne (personell manager), have visited me regularily. When I was tired of the regular hospital food, they've brought me something else to eat. They got me flowers and twice they brought lots of colorful "get well" balloons, which really shines up the boring hostpital-white-walls. I've had plenty of visits from other colleguaes as well so there is no need for anyone to feel alone here. Even if you are coming from far away to work here, Opera will definately take care of you.
The hospital here doesn't provide internet access for patients, but Opera (or actually the CEO, Jon) lent me a NetCom subscription for wireless 3G-ultra. This is what I'm using to post this comment, and it works great
Oh and I'm living in Norway, so I have no monetary problems while being treated. I also get full pay while in the hospital, so I have absolutely no worries about money. All I have to do, is to relax and get enough sleep.
Speaking of sleep... It's midnight and I have to get up tomorrow and have an operation.
Thanks to everyone at Opera! "I'll be back" 8-)
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The best thing that could happen to Opera would be an open source or Free software version. The lack of an open source Opera is exactly what keeps Opera so low in the browser popularity charts. Kudos to Opera for creating a great desktop and mobile browser, and I have to admit that I am amazed at the quality of their software given the fact that they chose the closed source model, but I think their days in business are numbered unless they learn how to make a profit while letting the code be free, preferably under the GPL. It *is* possible to give away the source and still manage to run a profitable business.
I don't really use bookmarks that much (even though with this I might start to). What I really want is can we please please PLEASE have RSS sync? Please?
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Opera seems to be decending the inevitable spiral to bloatware - it's gone from being an order of magnitude faster than IE/NS to almost as slow.
Now it's full of stupid crap (such as "link previews") which just slow it down. Try running it on a sub-gig processor and you shiver in anticip-a-a-a-ation as it freezes up while deciding what things to render next.
Come on Opera. Give us a _fast_ option.
Why the difficult way? All the Opera pages I've seen say to use about:config and untick the Enable box under the BitTorrent category.
Sig is for Signature, so you don't have to manually sign every post.
Opera is already the best browser there is, been using it since the old 3.x days. It has consistently proved itself to be more elegant, faster, more stable, much much less buggy or crash prone and much smaller and slicker than its alternatives, and I even use it on my sony ericsson phone. Great going opera.
This is pure FUD. I'm using Opera 9.23 on a 800 Mhz AMD and it's simply F-A-S-T in rendering. Period.
Because:
a) If anyone wants to alter any other MIME handling behaviour (e.g. get PDF's to open in Foxit), they'll now know how
b) I wasn't aware of the enable/disable bit in opera:config, cheers for that!
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You can grab it here:
http://snapshot.opera.com/
So you work for Opera? Cool... I applied once, but didn't get in. Anyhow I'm working in Norway now too. Good luck with the operation. -- 1 + 1 + 1 == 11
I've been using Opera for about two years, and since the 9.x it became unbearably slow. I now use firefox or IE instead. Other people have reported the same behaviour and believe it has to do with some nasty interaction with Symantec's AV.
You have a heart condition and you're reading Slashdot? Well, at least we know you have balls of steel.
Actually, they are about 40% dolomite.
If you get this, we're 10 of a kind.
It is called gratitude and optimism. Try it out, it's great!
If you get this, we're 10 of a kind.
Dude, post something so that we know you're ok... ok?
Also, Opera is cool, my wife and kid like it better than Firefox.
I'm okay :-) Hopefully they will let me out tomorrow or friday. I've been here for 4 weeks, so it feels like getting out of prison.
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---- "Open source code means that if there's a bug, people can patch it and get rid of the problem. The _only_ people who can do this for Opera are the developers." - by lekikui (1000144) on Wednesday September 05, @08:52AM (#20477801) How many people that rave about "open source" actually CODE though? The majority of users are NOT CODERS... & being opensource has a downside: It is FAR easier to examine actual sourcecode text than trying to pull an assembly language level "dump" via a debugger/disassembler & understand it quickly to create an exploit (this is an ADVANTAGE of closed-source code - it's TOUGH to pull disassembly on it, vs. using the actual sourcecode text to study it & find weakness).
I know what I'm talking about here, been coding for almost 15 years as a pro.
---- "Firefox (or Iceweasel in this case) might have more outstanding problems (most of which are probably very minor issues), but, and most importantly, any major bugs can be spotted and fixed by the community as fast as they make their way into the code base." - by lekikui (1000144) on Wednesday September 05, @08:52AM (#20477801) I helped to spot & fix a bug in FireFox actually, & you can verify this with their dev. team, OR philipp@ntcompatible.com, & I had no sourcecode for that... & again - how much of the "opensource" community actually writes & understands code, especially immediately, regarding that of material coded by others - this takes TIME, my friend, even IF you have the sourcecode to trace debug.
(Again - it's FAR HARDER to work with a binary & sending it thru a debugger/disassembler to spot weaknesses in it, this is an ADVANTAGE of closed-source code!)
---- "To look at it another way, many of the security issues in Firefox have likely never been exploited, but are only known because people can read the source and find these problems." - by lekikui (1000144) on Wednesday September 05, @08:52AM (#20477801) My point, exactly... & even IF you have the source, & an understanding of the language? You STILL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE ORIGINAL CODING TEAMS WERE USING IT... takes time, & it's NOT for everyone... I am glad to see you understand this much!
---- "Can you say that you know where the problems in Opera are?" - by lekikui (1000144) on Wednesday September 05, @08:52AM (#20477801) Well, when I find them, I report them (only 1 in years now in fact, & I have done so for FF teams, & they did handle it the very next day, once I gave them specifics regarding the NTCompatible.com homegrown forums board engine & what I spotted there... they came over, & fixed it, WITH us!)
---- "No, because you (or other coders) can't check the source to find potential problems before they become an issue." - by lekikui (1000144) on Wednesday September 05, @08:52AM (#20477801) I have helped the "FF" dev team without source before, as noted above!
(& even Dr. Mark Russinovich (sysinternals/Microsoft fame) do so)...
I.E.-> I spotted bugs in his pagedefrag.exe, & told him HOW to fix it (what API calls & why, & he agreed & thanked me for it no less, via email)...
(For helping him removing hardcodes he had for pagefile.sys to C:\ disk only, & also about EventLogs movements possibles & not to hardcode that either.)
I can & HAVE done so, for many other coders over time (some of some great note per the above)... without sourcecode, just saavy.
APK
Wow. Get well, Robbie. You're in hospital awaiting an operation, and still didn't forget to thank Opera -- which they obviously well deserve. You both make an excellent employee AND employer!
Get well soon!
That's the hard way, for the easy one type opera:config#BitTorrent in the address bar and disable builtin torrent support.