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Debian win32-loader Goes Official
An anonymous reader writes "After a long process of review and polishing, the win32 loader from goodbye-microsoft.com has finally made its way to official Debian CDs. Latest daily builds of lenny (the development version) are including it, making starting Debian Installer as simple as just a few clicks (OGG). The win32-loader version, now based on GRUB 2, includes new features such as detection and pre-seeding of Windows settings, and is translated to 20 languages."
Since none of the links in the story explain what the win32-loader is, can anyone explain what it does?
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Yup, including everyone running Ubuntu like me.
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http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/win32-loader
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
Everyone remember to click right through the EULA like they do in the instructional video, or it won't work. :)
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But, more specifically, you're running Debian Sid, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Ubuntu seems to have done a pretty good job of stabilizing Sid for the everyday user.
/home encrypted at the very least because that's where irssi/gaim logs are stored, and I'd rather not have a malicious person with physical access to my machine be able to get those logs. (short of rootkitting the system that is)
Once they implement LVM/volume encryption into the Ubuntu installer, I may consider using it on my desktop at home. I want
Peace sells, but who's buying?
I don't have any Windows machines to test it out on.
:)
Will this work in Wine?
Seriously though - nice work, guys.
Just disrupt the deflector shield with a tachyon burst.
Ran the win32 loader on a test-VM here at work. Pretty quick and painless, 4-5 prompts, 45 seconds of downloading, a reboot and debian was installing. However it was interesting to note that administrative privileges on the Win32 OS are not required. Not that big of a deal for most users, but could prove troublesome in some environments (Corporate, etc).
Launch every sig.
He must be married.
Ubuntu does import a lot of stuff from debian sid but they also package a lot of stuff themselves nowadays.
From what I can gather sid isn't too bad most of the time anyway it's just every so often big upgrades come through and break stuff.
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For an organization that dislikes Microsoft Corporation and the platforms distributed by them, they seem to spend an aweful lot of time developing software on or for it. [...] With such hypocracy, maybe they can join forces with the Global Warming crowd...
That makes as much sense as calling it a hypocrisy that creating cure against illness require that you have ill subjects to test on.
Mr. Windows partition, meet Mr. fdisk.
Sid ain't so bad. The system itself is quite stable. What's not is the package repository. Once in a while a large update will present some conflicts in dependency resolution. This will prevent you from completing the update until it's fixed in the repository, but it leaves your system in a usable state. Not really a big deal. For most purposes Sid is an excellent choice. I wouldn't put it on a production server however.
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>> by aswalkeraus (563276) Alter Relationship on Thursday September 13, @11:07AM (#20588309)
>>Seriously.... apt-get hell awaits,
Thats the first time I heard that expression, not a total surprise I guess; google says:
Results 1 - 10 of about 558 for "apt-get hell". (0.30 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 16,000 for "rpm hell". (0.12 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 208,000 for "dll hell". (0.07 seconds)
btw. see how much longer it takes google to even come up with the list for apt-get,
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My first thought following the link is that this is a virus. When I follow a link that says "Good bye Windows" which wants to launch an .EXE with no explanation, what else would I think?
I run Ubuntu in VMware. I thought from the article that perhaps I could run Windows programs inside Linux with this. Another WINE.
He must be married.
This is slashdot you inconsiderate fool.
Infuriate left and right
What I find interesting is the potential for "Linux Phishing" or "Linux Greifing" that this creates. There are already plenty of problems with various viruses loading directly through the browser in Windows, can you imagine what would happen if a "religious Linux fanatic" were to take this, alter it to use a known but unpatched IE vulnerability to auto-install and reboot people's machines into Linux? What would happen if a "religious Microsoft fanatic" did the same thing to try and make Linux look bad?
I've got a baaaad feeling about this...
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1) sid is a horrible monster that breaks all the time -- this is just not true. Sure, parts of it break from time to time, but for a cutting edge desktop, its great -- lots of current packages that mostly work all the time. You do have to be a little cautious with the upgrades, but it doesn't take much work; a little judicious reading of relevant bug reports is all it really takes to stay fully operational for long periods of time. THe last major sid breakage I remember was about 2 years ago when there was some fubar in the initrd's causing root pivot to fail. But it was fixed in a day and the work-around was posted to d-u within hours, IIRC.
2) testing is a better desktop than sid because its more stable -- this is outright false. Testing is a worse desktop than sid *BECAUSE* its more stable. That means if something breaks, it stays broken for a while. I think the policy is that a package has to sit in sid for 10 days without a change before it can move into testing. That means if a packages slips through sid without a particular problem being noticed (it happens) then it sits in testing until someone files the bug report. Then the fix has to sit in sid for at least 10 days from the time it is uploaded. You can see its very easy to be in a broken situation in testing for quite a while.
The fact is that though sid is subject to breakage, and there is a lot of package churn sometimes, if it does break, it gets fixed pretty quickly. Devs seem to respond pretty quickly to bugs in sid as it stuff they're currently working on. I love running sid and wouldn't do otherwise.
man, I feel like mold.
My first linux experience was booting to it from windows, using slackware, to install into a directory on my drive. Didn't require any partitioning as it used fat and ran on top of that with various hacks to make everything work in a linux friendly fasion. You could start windows, then just run an exe to switch to linux. Of course switching back required a normal reboot, but it certainly made 'trying' linux a easy thing to do. If you didn't like it you just deleted the directory you installed linux into. This was in 1995, give or take a year or so.
Why is this suddenly supposed to be impressive or new? Surely there was a reason that this sort of thing went away, why is it coming back now if it didn't work then?
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This scenario was labeled the "Tux Virus" many years ago.
Typically, the scenario involved a win95 themed wm and a far-fetched belief that wine or openoffice could allow the user to be fooled at least briefly.
hawk
1) Debian's net install download is under 200mb. I don't have to download, install, and un-install a lot of cruft that I don't want.
2) With debian, I upgrade as I go. I don't worry about the six-month goofy name release. I install debian once.
3) Debian is indifferent to which WM/DE you use. For all debian cares, you don't have to run any GUI. Don't even install X11, it's all the same to debian. And you don't need a different *untu, or whatever, to use a differnt GUI. I happen to use IceWM.
4) IMO, Debian has the best package management in the business.
5) With debian I can run a super-stable server, or a bleeding-edge desk, or whatever else. Debian is not a one trick pony. Debian is more like a blank canvas, I can make into whatever I want.
I am glad to see Ubuntu, or any version of Linux, catching on. But I happen to be happy enough with debian.