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Inside the Third Gen iPod Nano

ahess247 writes "When the leaked photos of the 3rd-gen iPod nano first hit the Web it quickly took the nickname 'little fatty,' but fat could be better used to describe Apple's profits on the project. BusinessWeek reports that a teardown analysis by iSuppli finds that it costs Apple only $58.85 to build the 4-gig iPod nano, and $82.85 for the 8GB version. The analysis also reveals some of Apple's suppliers, about which it is usually very tight-lipped. Synaptics is back as the supplier of the click-wheel technology, beating out Cypress Semiconductor which had it previously. Also of note: The same Samsung CPU chip that powers the video and audio in the nano is being used in the iPod Classic as well."

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  1. Call me back... by Poltras · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you have a better analysis of what it costs to develop the software, the amortized cost of engineering and other non-hardware costs (marketing, managing, distribution, etc) so that we can see a margin. Those numbers (58.84$) are totally irrelevant and only serve to misinform. Sure, you could buy the pieces that price, but for what it's worth...

    1. Re:Call me back... by lazyforker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The fact that companies hire iSupply doesn't mean that iSupply know what they're doing. Haven't you ever worked in a company that hired "Consultants" that don't know their asses from their elbows?

  2. Re:Wait... by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean that the total cost of building a product is just the sum of its components, excluding research/development, manufacturing costs, shipping costs, and marketing costs? Shocking!

  3. Worthless Numbers by Guanine · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many of the numbers iSuppli comes up with are pretty much made up. Regardless, most news organizations assume that the entire difference between retail of the device and the iSuppli number is "pure profit," etc. - this is utter nonsense. Previous iSuppli numbers have been shot down by reason, I hope to see the same thing in this instance.

  4. Yeah, but the price dropped too... by nweaver · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, the v3 Nano is cheaper to build. Its also cheaper to buy, with a 4 GB unit now $150 and $200 for the 8 GB, as opposed to 2 GB for $150, 4 GB for $200, and 8 GB for $250.

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  5. maybe by User+956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean an Apple product is overpriced?

    That's one way to look at it, in the context of the whole marketplace. Another way to look at it is that they've priced it according to the amount people have told them they're willing to pay. So if it were cheaper, it would be underpriced for that particular offering from Apple.

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    1. Re:maybe by hmbcarol · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nothing which has been purchased can be overpriced, at least not in that transaction. The buyer weighs the money in one hand and the product in the other. They decided that they wanted the product more than the money. The seller has done the same calculus and arrived at the opposite conclusion. They would rather have the money more than the product.

      Both parties believe they received the "better" bargain or they would not have traded. Of course a wise seller will offer a product at a price they feel will be the most profitable overall to sell at, balancing margin versus volume.

      Nothing has an "intrinsic" value; only the value the seller and potential buyers would assign it. It will vary by person, time, and circumstance. Two people, one recently well fed at a nice restaurant and the other tired from working all day and skipping lunch would value a street venders hot-dog very differently.

  6. Profit margins are irrelevant by Overd0g · · Score: 5, Insightful

    except for Apple ownership. Each person needs to decide if the retail price represents a good value to them personally. If it doesn't, don't buy it. It doesn't matter if it costs Apple 1 cent to manufacture the product. Thus is the nature of freedom. They can ask whatever they want, and you can pay it or not. FYI, the same thing applies to your salary.

  7. Uninformed guess: by jstockdale · · Score: 5, Funny

    R&D: $10 000 000

    Marketing: $25 000 000

    Logistics: $5 000 000

    Steve's Salary: $1 ...

    Bringing a new iPod to market: $40 000 000+

    Having your CEO cost less than your annual paperclip budget: priceless

    Most things money can by; and if you have enough of it: you probably buy Apple.

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  8. Re:Gross margin borders on gouging by catbutt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course it does. It is just like someone overcharging for plywood and batteries as the hurricane bears down. People need these iPods, and they need them now, and competitive products are not available. Apple execs should be put in jail for this immoral behavior.

  9. Summary changed quotes to make them false by klossner · · Score: 5, Informative
    The comments about how parts pricing != cost to build are all correct. TFA got this right, but then the Slashdot summary changed their wording to make it wrong.

    Business Week:

    After taking apart the nano, iSuppli estimates that all the parts inside cost Apple $58.85 for the $149 model ... Slashdot:

    BusinessWeek reports that a teardown analysis by iSuppli finds that it costs Apple only $58.85 to build the 4-gig iPod nano Business Week reported nothing of the sort.
  10. Shock! Horror! MS Office costs 10c! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It only costs 10c to make a CD that MS sells for hundreds!

    Like parent says, when you buy any electronic gizzmo you're not just paying for the parts. You're paying R&D costs, distribution costs, profit for share holders and the stores etc.

    It is quite common for electronic products to sell for apperox 5x the cost of the raw components.

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