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Parts of the Patriot Act Ruled Unconstitutional

BlueBlade writes "According to this CBS story, a federal judge ruled Wednesday that two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause."

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  1. MOD PARENT UP by Nymz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    because he's right. Too many politicians are spineless and corrupt, changing their viewpoints everytime the wind blows, instead of standing on principles.

  2. Re:AdBlock Plus Plus by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    At what point can we expect an AdBlock Plus, Ron Paul edition? Because, I'm wanting one. You also might wanna try checking disable sigs :-D
  3. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by thedogcow · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Does anyone have actual proof (i.e. voting records) for this list. Some of this sounds a bit skeptical and describes Ron Paul as a neoconservative when really he is a Barry Goldwater conservative. Links please, otherwise this is tin foil hat material.

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  4. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by Elemenope · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    * Opposes federal funding for pretty much everything

    * Pro-tax cuts, nearly all of which go to the rich...anti-inflationary money policy, nearly all of which benefits the poor

    * Anti-U.N....and any other organization that subsumes state sovereign autonomy

    * Favors cutting gas taxes as gas taxes are nearly exclusively a tax on the poor (much like cigarette taxes)

    * Against corporate welfare

    * Glorifies Ronald Reagan...nobody's perfect. :)

    * Supports corporate efforts to ship US jobs to China, because jobs are a finite and static resource and employment is a zero-sum competition? They certainly aren't; ask any economist. This point is just plain stupid.

    * Attacks gun control (so...?) and D.C. self-rule, which is a messy and complicated political football, complete with constitutional entanglements.

    * Anti-union...does it bear mentioning that unions these days are pretty corrupt and generally are ineffective at bettering their members' circumstances?

    * Opposes hate crime legislation, as a crime is a crime is a crime, by statute. I'm pretty sure if you kill someone, the thing they would care about is their being dead, not what was going through your head when you did it.

    * Supports "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"; Ron Paul is not good on homosexual equality issues.

    * Opposes allowing same-sex partners to adopt...again, this is Ron Paul legitimately being stupid.

    * Voted to allow bigoted Alabama judge to post Ten Commandments in courtroom, as free expression is just one of those things we used to care about...

    * Co-sponsored Constitutional amendment pushing coerced prayer in public schools...I'm sorry, this is the only one I hadn't heard. Citation, please?

    * Opposes restoring the Pledge of Allegiance to the version without "Under God"...so?

    * And so on and so forth. Yes, he is truly all that is opposed to what is right and true...LOL.

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  5. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by erroneus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "Pro-tax cuts, nearly all of which go to the rich" -- That's crap. He's opposed to ALL taxation of citizens. So in reality, unless you're "incorporated" like so many "rich people" actually are and less rich people rarely if ever are, then you're completely wrong about that.

    "Anti-U.N." Why is the U.N. good? Because of the "United" part making you feel all warm and fuzzy? Until we can secure our own freedoms from people like Bush, the media companies, the food companies, the oil companies and the communications companies, we have no business attempting to "infect" the rest of the world with our own custom-ordered-for-business-interests law through the U.N. and the World Trade Organization.

    "Opposes allowing same-sex partners to adopt" ...well, if that's true, I guess I'll concede that no one is 100% right.

    "Opposes restoring the Pledge of Allegiance to the version without Under God'" and then "Co-sponsored Constitutional amendment pushing coerced prayer in public schools" Are you sure he did BOTH? They seem to be opposing views being expressed.

    "And so on and so forth." Oh My God! Well I'm convinced now... I wasn't feelin' ya with the others, but that last item was the kicker.

  6. Ron Paul slam analysis by StupidKatz · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Copulating nincompoops for Ron Paul!

            * Opposes federal funding for stem cell research

    I.e., not a ban, just no money. Since Ron Paul also would like to abolish the IRS, this makes sense, no?

            * Pro-tax cuts, nearly all of which go to the rich

    Pro-no-IRS. How much would a 100% tax cut affect the poor?

            * Anti-U.N.

    From a pragmatic standpoint, the US pays for what percentage of the UN budget and gets how much say in return?

            * Favors cutting gas taxes (go figure)

    Favors cutting all taxes.

            * Against corporate accountability

    You're going to have to expound upon that one.

            * Glorifies Ronald Reagan

    No comment.

            * Supports corporate efforts to ship US jobs to China

    Is this a slam on the free market? If not, more details needed.

            * Attacks gun control and D.C. self-rule

    "D.C. self rule" trumps the Constitution, specifically Amendment #2? News to me...

            * Anti-union

    Well, we've been saying he's pretty sharp for an old guy.

            * Opposes hate crime legislation

    Supports rule of law, versus thoughtcrime.

            * Supports "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

    In other words, if not making passes at the CO, a homosexual private doesn't have much to worry about.

            * Opposes allowing same-sex partners to adopt

    Because grand societal experiments involving innocent babies backed up with the force of federal law is such a good idea...

            * Voted to allow bigoted Alabama judge to post Ten Commandments in courtroom

    Nevermind US history...

            * Co-sponsored Constitutional amendment pushing coerced prayer in public schools

    Because enforced atheism is the only true religion.

            * Opposes restoring the Pledge of Allegiance to the version without "Under God"

    What does he think about "In God We Trust"?

            * And so on and so forth.

    Sounds like the right man for the job! :)

  7. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by cluckshot · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Voted to allow bigoted Alabama judge to post Ten Commandments in courtroom

    Why on earth do lies like this one get said. He supported a monument being posted. However; nothing of the sort of this judge being a bigot is real. I know Judge Moore. A kinder more gentleman I have not known, especially in political affairs. He is a most decent man.

    I wonder how many more lies are going to be posted to /. and how many more moderators will call it troll or something like that. The simple fact is that Ron Paul is a decent man who holds a strong position set in defense of the USA and its Constitution.

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  8. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by Elemenope · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yeah. It's so difficult to be pleasant; it must take specialized training. But seriously, if you want to blame someone for outsourcing jobs, blame those who set up the current international financial system which allows free flow of capital; that is what facilitates job market mobility. That happened back in the 1970's with the abolition of most capital controls, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't Ron Paul's fault.

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  9. Re:And tonight's top story.... by kir · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Suh-weet! But you do know you just posted in a thread full of lemmings, right? Nice post, but completely ignored.

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  10. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by BronsCon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I would, but I'm not pleasant enough to be a service worker, you insensitive clod.

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  11. Re:Regarding Ron Paul... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    But you still didn't address the issue that economists by and large as a group are a bunch of empty-headed sheep rapidly paddling counterclockwise in a clockwise whirlpool all the while loudly singing "Row Row Row your boat" off-key and off tempo.

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