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Microsoft Extends XP's Life By 6 Months

hairyfeet writes "Despite Microsoft releasing Windows Vista more than nine months ago the adoption rate has not been as Microsoft hoped. Bowing further to pressure from OEMs and consumers, Microsoft has extended the life of Windows XP, which was due to end sale by OEMs on January 1 next year, to a new date of June 30. Asked if this was an indication of a strong demand for XP, a Microsoft representative sought to downplay the extension, stating 'We wouldn't term it strong, we would describe this as accommodating a certain element who needs more time.'"

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  1. 5 Months? by ihop0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jan 1 -> June 30? Isn't that 6 months?

    1. Re:5 Months? by Nimey · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Fucking mods. That wasn't a troll. That was pointing out that

      1) The joke isn't funny any more.

      2) Since it keeps getting modded up, the mods are retarded.

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  2. Vista SP1 Delayed by acherrington · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'We wouldn't term it strong, we would describe this as accommodating a certain element who needs more time.' So let me get this straight... if its not demand that's changing this.. and its a certain element who needs more time, well then I am going to guess that its Microsoft that needs more time to push out Vista Service Pack 1. Then hopefully Windows Vista will have the bugs out and customers will want to migrate.
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  3. XP Works by Blinocac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plain and simple. I'm no big fan of MS, but XP is really a decent piece. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

    1. Re:XP Works by Doctor+Crumb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Windows is still less stable than any other modern OS; while it's more stable than any previous MS offering, that's hardly saying much. My linux computers stay on for months at a time with no issues; I have to reboot my windows computers once a week or they slow to a crawl (never mind patch-and-reboot tuesdays!).

      XP is *not* really good, it is merely good *enough*.

    2. Re:XP Works by everphilski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What are you doing to your windows computers? Mine stays up for months at a time. Dual core AMD, windows xp x64. I'm running a WAMP stack, skype, and play a MMORPG... what are you doing wrong? Or maybe you shoud just admit that you don't know how to admin a windows box like you do a linux machine. Maybe that is the difference.

  4. Is this a PR guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > We wouldn't term it strong, we would describe this as accommodating a certain element who needs more time.

    A certain element? What a lovely way to degenerate paying customers who have no interest in being force-fed your latest horse shit product!

    1. Re:Is this a PR guy? by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is why you should NEVER use a product that requires "activation".

      Just say no to mandatory registration, dongles and other similar shenanigans.

      This isn't even a "pro free software" or "anti commercial" thing. Not all
      commercial software vendors choose to treat their customers like this.

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  5. Re:Defeated by themselves... by Andrewkov · · Score: 2, Insightful

    BAHHHAHAHAHAA! You should work in marketing! :)

  6. Re:Hmmm.... by Clanked · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsofts Definition of "Certain Element"

    eve-ry-one
    pronoun
        Every person; everybody.

  7. Good Decision by MrCrassic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...but it was inevitable. Think about it: while Windows Vista is a great operating system and a recommended upgrade from Windows XP, it has been shown all too many times that there are still growing pains evident with it. There are many drivers that are still being tested and revised due to vastly new frameworks implemented by Microsoft (Creative's situation immediately comes to mind, even though it's thankfully been resolved). Furthermore, there are many software packages that have or will definitely have compatibility issues with Vista (financial applications are a huge example of this, since they tend to be much more conservative. I'm not including the super-large firms that absolutely need to continue relying on extremely antiquated software).

    While officially removing Windows XP support will be mostly transparent to end users, developers will be forced to migrate all of their time and energy to a new operating system with a lot of changes under the hood instead of spending time steadily updating current software while researching and testing compatible Vista software as well. Many IT managers and decision-makers will have to devote much more energy to supporting Vista faster, which can result in less-than-stellar results (it's corporate habit to accept a new operating system much later than their introduction).

    I think this is a good way for Microsoft to ensure that they keep the risks of transition as minimal as possible. Vista migration will undoubtedly happen, but it's best that it is slow and exceptional rather than rapid and disappointing (as many users are quickly finding out).

    1. Re:Good Decision by NetNed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Have you not used Vista?Great wasn't the word I would pick to describe it. ME v.2.0 maybe, but surly not great. Ok maybe it is great, because since it came out I've gotten more business taking it off oem's and replacing it with XP. Thank you Microsoft!

    2. Re:Good Decision by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is true. But then you run into interoperability issues within the company as well as with outside interests.

      A couple of years ago, I started pushing for OpenOffice, instead of MS Office at my old company. Not even switching whole hod to Linux, just going to OOo. Did a whole usability analysis, cost structure, retraining, conversion of existing tools, all that crap. This was a $100M division of a 1/2 billion dollar company.

      The reason it got shot down? All our clients/customers were on MS Office, and they expected stuff in Excel, Word, PowerPoint. Period. And these were some of the largest companies in their fields. GM, Toyota, P&G, Visa, etc, etc. Expecting them to bend to our wishes was unreasonable and not gonna happen.

  8. Re:Comparison... by The+Assistant · · Score: 1, Insightful

    XP = Reliable sports car, great aftermarket support, uses regular gas

    I'll give you great aftermarket support, if your talking about third party

    I'll even give you uses regular gas, provided you concede that linux can use regular gas mixed with equal parts of water.

    I have a little problem with Reliable sports car, maybe it should be more of reliable sporty sedan. Sports car seems to suggest performance that isn't there unless you use premium gas. (Extra memory, Larger Hard Drive, fairly new graphics card)

    But of course this is all IMHO!

  9. Microsoft playing Chicken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Extends XP's Life"

    If I were a Windows user, this language would make me sick to my stomach. This is the reason I use GNU software: the "life" of that software is as long as somebody wants to use it. RMS isn't sitting in the offices of the FSF waiting to pull the plug on Linux 2.6 so that people have to buy Linux 2.8; (this might upset Linus a little bit too). Moreover, even "dead" GNU programs can come back to life, if somebody is willing to dig up the body and run it through the compile-o-matic.

    If the market wants Windows XP, let them buy it until there isn't enough plastic left on Earth to mint another CD. Software can't "die" unless a very greedy vendor decides to murder it in cold blood. "Extends XP's Life" should be rewritten "Decides Not to Shank XP/XP Users".

    Microsoft is playing chicken with the free market, and they are going to lose.

  10. OK by MS? by bigdavex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This doesn't seem like a huge disaster for Microsoft to me.

    These people are still buying a MS Windows license. Maybe they'll even buy an upgrade to Vista later.

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  11. Re:Activation servers? by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Win2k doesn't have activation.

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  12. XP Sucks by Colin+Smith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    XP sucks. It simply sucks less than Vista.

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    1. Re:XP Sucks by ed.mps · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree, but for the "average user", it simply doesn't suck.

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  13. Can Linux Users make that 6 months count? by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those of us who support Linux, I stated on the last article like this, the slower adoption of Vista is, the more time it buys Windows users. So consider this. What happens if we get a "Golden" Wine that can run some killer Windows App XP can, Vista can't. All the sudden you have a small targeted dent in MS's market share that makes a big dent.

    What are some ways the calculating Linux user can use this to further undermine MS?

  14. I don't get it? by HalAtWork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should a product that's designed to be used in a production environment receive an end-of-life? Shouldn't they have various platforms with ongoing support for different end-use? For example, companies have built software on Windows XP that refuse to work on later versions, or later versions have different properties (i.e. certain APIs no longer supported, 3rd party companion software that won't run on the new OS, different security model imposes different behaviour in the new OS, different licensing schemes not compatible with the software)... if MS cares about its developers that have invested in the platform they put out, wouldn't they keep supporting them? How could developers choose to program for a platform that's essentially a moving target that they can never lock down, and that they have to keep paying MS to use their own software, and even make changes to their software to accomodate MS's changes in their OS? Plus, every time you want to sell your solution to a customer, you have to charge them for MS's products as well. If you have software that requires Windows and Office, and you sell it to someone, you have to sell them Office and Windows and whatever other applications along with it, promoting MS's product, or at least putting your customers in the same position that MS is putting you in as a developer. Except that MS's support and guarantees are limited by their EULA. Isn't programming on Windows like an endless chase? Does it pay off in any way?

    1. Re:I don't get it? by realmolo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the Windows API hasn't really been a "moving target" for quite a while. Since Windows NT. Yeah, things have been added, but if you followed the rules, a 32-bit app written in 1995 should work just fine on Vista. Games being the exception.

      The thing is, MANY developers, especially the "in-house" developers at a lot of businesses, haven't exactly been following the rules. Microsoft has been tolerant of that for a long time, but with Vista, they are finally saying "Look. You HAVE to use Win32 and follow all the rules for writing a nice, compatible application." The big issue is multi-user-aware applications, obviously. And applications that want to modify system files that shouldn't ever need to be modified.

      I'm not a fan of Vista, but the fact that it FINALLY is forcing all these lazy/clueless developers to re-write their apps is probably a good thing for the industry, overall. Yes, it's a pain in the ass and it's expensive. But MS finally realized that they can't keep catering to the people that want to keep patching-up their 16-bit Visual Basic apps from 1992, because it's holding up advancement of Windows.

  15. That's the way I read this. by Mongoose+Disciple · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some people won't move to the next Windows until SP2. A lot won't move until SP1 is out. SP1 isn't ready yet, ergo, accomodate the wait-for-SP1 crowd.

    You'll see a lot of other interpretations on Slashdot, but I just don't see them bearing out for most businesses or in the non-Slashdot world in general.

  16. Re:Activation servers? by BUL2294 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've wondered this myself... If I want go install MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95/98/ME, NT4, or 2000 now or in the future (on an old PC or in a VM), I can do that right now... Sure, I'm unsupported but at least I can do what I need/want to do with that old OS. Will I be able to do that with XP years from now???

    If not, then Microsoft is saying that I can no longer use an application I bought!

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  17. Re:Defeated by themselves... by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, they didn't make it so appealing users want to keep old. They made the upgrade so appalling that users don't want to buy new.

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  18. Re:Brilliant by HexaByte · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Charge people buying the internet FUD on Vista for XP today..... and then charge them again a year later when they have to upgrade to Vista!

    Not really. Most systems are being bought w/ Vista and a "downgrade" to XP. For the price of Vista, you get Vista and XP. All you need to do is install Vista if they ever get enough bugs out of it for you to use it.

    If Micro$oft put out good products, a lot of us would be out of a job! ;->

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  19. Re:Microsoft responds to customers (what's new?) by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Vista brings many new things to the table, especially in terms of increased usability. Some people need more time to adapt and move to the new OS, and Microsoft listened to them.


    Yeah, plugging in your USB thumb drive and finding out the helper software won't run on Vista is really increased usability. Finding out that your two year old scanner won't work for lack of drivers is increased usability.

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  20. Vista will be adopted sooner or later by bravo369 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think Vista is slow to be adopted for a few reasons. It's different and non-technical people don't like different. I heard similar things about XP when it came out. It's more restrictive. Getting prompted to do little stupid things is annoying and not being able to do things you did in XP is equally frustrating. Need to upgrade PC's. Many people don't want to run it on their 3 or 4 year old PC and have it run sluggishly. Oh, and activation. I have to say though, I just bought a new laptop with Vista Business and I didn't like it at first either. Now that I've been using it every day along with office 2007, I like it. Of course I had to turn UAC off though. Can't stand that. I think people will warm up to in once they start using it everyday.

  21. They have a product that sells... Why stop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It makes no sense to me for MS to stop selling XP. The demand for XP and Vista should occur naturally through consumer demand. Either way, MS gets a sale. Why try to artificially control demand?