Sooo they are going to ignore the dam break that was from bad construction that caused Iowa's flooding?? Am I also supposed to ignore all the early thaws or quick thaws of my childhood in the 70's?? If you are going to tell me some bullshit at least have it account for things that happened in the past and when facts come out about failed dams that the US Army Corp. built. That way you don't look as full of shit as you do now.
So are all these automakers ignoring the market that doesn't want electric or self-driving cars? We are going to continue to act like people don't buy trucks and SUV's so much more than other vehicles? In addiction there have been so many studies that show EV are actually worse for the environment. We ignoring those too? We hear that they are doing so for the stock investors, but where have we ever seen it being a good business model to focus on things that don't sell? The best selling EV sells just barely over 8000 a year on good years, about 4000 in bad years. Compare that 890,000 plus trucks from Ford alone.
Net neutrality got squashed which would have led to them doing this exact think so now they want to act like this is somehow in the constitution to protect their "content".
So is everyone just ignoring the riots from the last set of regulations that is crippling the poorer people of France? And did I really see someone post about democracy when these regulations were forced down the throats of French citizens?? Hey maybe we can sell them all that "excess" energy we all heard California and Arizona is producing that is "free" that has seemed to disappear.
From searching online the Ars article is the only one that says they are actually paying real dollars. The are also the only one I can find that says they are changing environmental laws for the plant. All others I have found say there are "environmental concerns". Even the Reuters article referenced in the doesn't mention any of this. Not saying it's one way or the other, just odd that Ars is the only one I could find saying that.
When is the media going to start mention that the driver is a diagnosed schizophrenic? and on antipsychotic medication? I find it oddly puzzling this and him beating up his mother leading to a stint in juvenile detention facility haven't been talked about really at all.
For one you skipped over the numbers of areas where multiple vendors of 10MB/s is available. Also when it say "fixed" satellite is removed from the equation.
You admit you have options in your area but then say they are not viable to you. Viability and availability are two different things. Add to that you don't seem to think you can use one ISP off the other to negotiate a lower price out of one. That is done ALL THE TIME. I call yearly to get mine lowered and I am not talking 10 bucks or so. I get them to drop it in the 30 to 40 dollar range. It's pretty easy to do if you can stick to your guns and have even a drop of negotiating skills.
Lastly, there has been TONS of fiber roll out across the country. Maybe you live far out in the country, but even the edges of suburbia here have fiber and the ISP providers paid to string the lines.
Reports say otherwise. I am not sure why people all think they have one option in their areas and most people only have one option. True in the late 90's and early 2000's but ISP's do this crazy thing called expanding their markets to make more money and increase share prices.
Mod up. Net neutrality will just push the cost of infrastructure to the tax payer, this why the ISP with some of the worst infrastructure is all on board now.
So is no one looking at the big picture of this? Of course AT&T is going to support this. They were stupid in the past not to probably because they are an old company that has a complex about all thing related to their business model. Someone at AT&T finally woke up. Here is why: (at least why I think)
So AT&T offer service on some of the oldest equipment out there. Their networks in a lot of areas still need upgrading and they can't offer what others do in those areas. That's one reason you have to literally comb through their website to find anything about U-Verse TV that they plugged to no end just 10 years ago. Problem is, they don't have enough bandwidth for the amount of users they had sign up for U-Verse and couldn't expand it in to other areas with out massive costs. So they bought Direct TV and they push that like crazy now. While they have increase speed and reliability in cities and suburbia, even small distances outside of those areas AT&T sucks and satellite is worse. So along comes net neutrality, where everyone needs to be equal and it will be governed by our government. That means tax payer dollars being spent to extend line to areas with low amounts of users that isn't financially possible for AT&T to do. Thus AT&T wouldn't have to shell out a dime and would improve coverage at the same time. A win win for them and the reason they flip flopped.
Really, I think the system we have been using all along has been fine. There are enough watchdogs and the advent of social media calls out ISP's pretty much the second they start doing some funny business that the bad PR makes them reverse their positions. Seems to work to me.
Have you missed the national debt? Yeah, fuck it, lets keep spending on shitty programs that every fucking study under the sun shows are utter failures. Let's just keep pouring money in to them and they will fix themselves.
I like how you have no debate for what I said other than to name call and claim you are talking from some moral superior high ground. So I guess you've missed the stock market numbers? That little elephant in the room kinda makes your argument look like utter hogwash. What about the immigration ban that the left are fighting so hard to block with running to liberal judges in different states to throw up a challenge every time they get their asses handed to them in another state? How about getting rid of government workers, one of the most bloated areas of the government where the motto is "why hire one guy to do a job when you can hire 4 to do the same job!". Gee, that sounds like a plan, like a GOOD plan. How about illegal immigration being down over 50%? Pretty sure he talked all campaign about plans to quell that. Hmmm seems to be working. How about the number of jobs being created? Didn't he say he wanted to put the AMERICAN worker back to work??? That kinda sounds like a plan?? How about pulling out of the Paris Climate accord because it was a money grab from the US? He said he was going to do it. Went there and did it. Plan, execution, result.
So I am thinking you don't seem to understand what the word plan means..............
Do the people of Slash Dot all of a sudden now believe that Russian hackers are the ones the leaked Hillary's emails?? Gosh I remember when people here actually looked at fact and plausibility and didn't just believe something because some one repeated it over and over and over again. News for nerds? I think that title should certainly be changed.
Is that like the liberal left and their only idea of throw money at it till it goes away? And do you really think that all the republicans are in a drum circle singing songs about how well they get along? McCain's and Graham's faction would LOVE Trump out of office because they could return to the war machine of selling weapons, something that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were all in on unless you missed the FACT that under President Obama they sold the most weapons to foreign nations of any president since WWII.
Funny how people believe all the bullshit fed to them on the nightly news that this 2 parties are "ALWAYS" at odd with each other. If they are both cashing in on some underhanded deal you'd be amazed how well they can work together.
Ummmmm yeah. First off it is not even close to the lowest it has ever been unless you have no history passed 2008. Second they were well up over 7 this time last year and they had the same thing happen that happened in the US, people left the job market AGAIN. Not the first time it has happened. That was following the two terrible years before that also. Third, I know the whole "we figure it different" line. People that throw it out there tend to want to ignore the new job creation numbers too. That number seems a lot higher because it IS a lot higher. Canada is facing what the US did in the late 90's. Factories leaving for different countries in search of cheap labor. Add to that the cost in Alberta and around Saskatchewan to extract the oil from the oil sands isn't as profitable when the middle east and elsewhere lowers the cost of a barrel of oil. So like I said, there are plenty of people that could be trained in Canada to do a lot of these job that are displaced workers right now.
Why? The job climate in Canada isn't that great so why would they need to bring in workers if the whole "retrain workers" works??? So many under lying issues that this story doesn't want to touch so they write a piece to bash the US.
Too free and not enough monetary returns for the education industry. Just like copyrighted curriculum in colleges. Put a copyright on it, change for it and make money while calling it SO much more better than that free garbage!!!
Exactly. It's basically the NSA's hypothetical on how it could have been done and even uses "could have" and "possibly". In the light of all that's happened going bad to even Bradly/Chelsea Manning, how can anyone take any agencies "reports" at face value?
Add to that the report being full of "could have" "might have" and "possibility".
It's funny. It was proven that the CIA has a 60 million dollar deal with the Washington Post to allow it to feed stories yet every time a report or leak comes out people that 10 years ago would never trust this crap claim it's "all legit" in an almost "move along, nothing to see here" kind of manner.
So wait, if Russia is NOT our friends AND they tried to interfere in our election, why would we, or more correctly the NSA, not want to undermine them? So we have a leaker that got caught the very day the article is published, her name is Reality Winners or all names, and even though she has had ALL KINDS of pro Sanders/Anti-Trump tweets and social media posts that were easily found she was still allowed to hold top secret security clearance. Who would ever doubt this unbelievable string of events??
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Well feel safe in that if it was true 5G all that use it will get great health problems faster than any 4G line can deliver!!
Sooo they are going to ignore the dam break that was from bad construction that caused Iowa's flooding?? Am I also supposed to ignore all the early thaws or quick thaws of my childhood in the 70's?? If you are going to tell me some bullshit at least have it account for things that happened in the past and when facts come out about failed dams that the US Army Corp. built. That way you don't look as full of shit as you do now.
So are all these automakers ignoring the market that doesn't want electric or self-driving cars? We are going to continue to act like people don't buy trucks and SUV's so much more than other vehicles? In addiction there have been so many studies that show EV are actually worse for the environment. We ignoring those too? We hear that they are doing so for the stock investors, but where have we ever seen it being a good business model to focus on things that don't sell? The best selling EV sells just barely over 8000 a year on good years, about 4000 in bad years. Compare that 890,000 plus trucks from Ford alone.
Net neutrality got squashed which would have led to them doing this exact think so now they want to act like this is somehow in the constitution to protect their "content".
The same people that think Telegram did this are the same that think 100K in "Russian" facebook ads swung the election for Trump.
So is everyone just ignoring the riots from the last set of regulations that is crippling the poorer people of France? And did I really see someone post about democracy when these regulations were forced down the throats of French citizens?? Hey maybe we can sell them all that "excess" energy we all heard California and Arizona is producing that is "free" that has seemed to disappear.
From searching online the Ars article is the only one that says they are actually paying real dollars. The are also the only one I can find that says they are changing environmental laws for the plant. All others I have found say there are "environmental concerns". Even the Reuters article referenced in the doesn't mention any of this. Not saying it's one way or the other, just odd that Ars is the only one I could find saying that.
When is the media going to start mention that the driver is a diagnosed schizophrenic? and on antipsychotic medication? I find it oddly puzzling this and him beating up his mother leading to a stint in juvenile detention facility haven't been talked about really at all.
For one you skipped over the numbers of areas where multiple vendors of 10MB/s is available. Also when it say "fixed" satellite is removed from the equation.
You admit you have options in your area but then say they are not viable to you. Viability and availability are two different things. Add to that you don't seem to think you can use one ISP off the other to negotiate a lower price out of one. That is done ALL THE TIME. I call yearly to get mine lowered and I am not talking 10 bucks or so. I get them to drop it in the 30 to 40 dollar range. It's pretty easy to do if you can stick to your guns and have even a drop of negotiating skills.
Lastly, there has been TONS of fiber roll out across the country. Maybe you live far out in the country, but even the edges of suburbia here have fiber and the ISP providers paid to string the lines.
Reports say otherwise. I am not sure why people all think they have one option in their areas and most people only have one option. True in the late 90's and early 2000's but ISP's do this crazy thing called expanding their markets to make more money and increase share prices.
Mod up. Net neutrality will just push the cost of infrastructure to the tax payer, this why the ISP with some of the worst infrastructure is all on board now.
If that was the case they wouldn't be hiding U-Verse and pushing Direct TV like crazy.
So is no one looking at the big picture of this? Of course AT&T is going to support this. They were stupid in the past not to probably because they are an old company that has a complex about all thing related to their business model. Someone at AT&T finally woke up. Here is why: (at least why I think)
So AT&T offer service on some of the oldest equipment out there. Their networks in a lot of areas still need upgrading and they can't offer what others do in those areas. That's one reason you have to literally comb through their website to find anything about U-Verse TV that they plugged to no end just 10 years ago. Problem is, they don't have enough bandwidth for the amount of users they had sign up for U-Verse and couldn't expand it in to other areas with out massive costs. So they bought Direct TV and they push that like crazy now. While they have increase speed and reliability in cities and suburbia, even small distances outside of those areas AT&T sucks and satellite is worse. So along comes net neutrality, where everyone needs to be equal and it will be governed by our government. That means tax payer dollars being spent to extend line to areas with low amounts of users that isn't financially possible for AT&T to do. Thus AT&T wouldn't have to shell out a dime and would improve coverage at the same time. A win win for them and the reason they flip flopped.
Really, I think the system we have been using all along has been fine. There are enough watchdogs and the advent of social media calls out ISP's pretty much the second they start doing some funny business that the bad PR makes them reverse their positions. Seems to work to me.
Have you missed the national debt? Yeah, fuck it, lets keep spending on shitty programs that every fucking study under the sun shows are utter failures. Let's just keep pouring money in to them and they will fix themselves.
I like how you have no debate for what I said other than to name call and claim you are talking from some moral superior high ground. So I guess you've missed the stock market numbers? That little elephant in the room kinda makes your argument look like utter hogwash. What about the immigration ban that the left are fighting so hard to block with running to liberal judges in different states to throw up a challenge every time they get their asses handed to them in another state? How about getting rid of government workers, one of the most bloated areas of the government where the motto is "why hire one guy to do a job when you can hire 4 to do the same job!". Gee, that sounds like a plan, like a GOOD plan. How about illegal immigration being down over 50%? Pretty sure he talked all campaign about plans to quell that. Hmmm seems to be working. How about the number of jobs being created? Didn't he say he wanted to put the AMERICAN worker back to work??? That kinda sounds like a plan?? How about pulling out of the Paris Climate accord because it was a money grab from the US? He said he was going to do it. Went there and did it. Plan, execution, result.
So I am thinking you don't seem to understand what the word plan means..............
Do the people of Slash Dot all of a sudden now believe that Russian hackers are the ones the leaked Hillary's emails?? Gosh I remember when people here actually looked at fact and plausibility and didn't just believe something because some one repeated it over and over and over again. News for nerds? I think that title should certainly be changed.
Is that like the liberal left and their only idea of throw money at it till it goes away? And do you really think that all the republicans are in a drum circle singing songs about how well they get along? McCain's and Graham's faction would LOVE Trump out of office because they could return to the war machine of selling weapons, something that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were all in on unless you missed the FACT that under President Obama they sold the most weapons to foreign nations of any president since WWII.
Funny how people believe all the bullshit fed to them on the nightly news that this 2 parties are "ALWAYS" at odd with each other. If they are both cashing in on some underhanded deal you'd be amazed how well they can work together.
Ummmmm yeah. First off it is not even close to the lowest it has ever been unless you have no history passed 2008. Second they were well up over 7 this time last year and they had the same thing happen that happened in the US, people left the job market AGAIN. Not the first time it has happened. That was following the two terrible years before that also. Third, I know the whole "we figure it different" line. People that throw it out there tend to want to ignore the new job creation numbers too. That number seems a lot higher because it IS a lot higher. Canada is facing what the US did in the late 90's. Factories leaving for different countries in search of cheap labor. Add to that the cost in Alberta and around Saskatchewan to extract the oil from the oil sands isn't as profitable when the middle east and elsewhere lowers the cost of a barrel of oil. So like I said, there are plenty of people that could be trained in Canada to do a lot of these job that are displaced workers right now.
Why? The job climate in Canada isn't that great so why would they need to bring in workers if the whole "retrain workers" works??? So many under lying issues that this story doesn't want to touch so they write a piece to bash the US.
Too free and not enough monetary returns for the education industry. Just like copyrighted curriculum in colleges. Put a copyright on it, change for it and make money while calling it SO much more better than that free garbage!!!
Exactly. It's basically the NSA's hypothetical on how it could have been done and even uses "could have" and "possibly". In the light of all that's happened going bad to even Bradly/Chelsea Manning, how can anyone take any agencies "reports" at face value?
Add to that the report being full of "could have" "might have" and "possibility".
It's funny. It was proven that the CIA has a 60 million dollar deal with the Washington Post to allow it to feed stories yet every time a report or leak comes out people that 10 years ago would never trust this crap claim it's "all legit" in an almost "move along, nothing to see here" kind of manner.
So wait, if Russia is NOT our friends AND they tried to interfere in our election, why would we, or more correctly the NSA, not want to undermine them? So we have a leaker that got caught the very day the article is published, her name is Reality Winners or all names, and even though she has had ALL KINDS of pro Sanders/Anti-Trump tweets and social media posts that were easily found she was still allowed to hold top secret security clearance. Who would ever doubt this unbelievable string of events??
So where is this trail of dead bodies? I am sure there are lots on here that would like to know where you got this info from.
Yes, because any news that doesn't fit your narrative comes from "Putin". You have added "so much" to the conversation.