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Microsoft Marketing to OS Pirates, Just Agree to Audits!

Stony Stevenson writes "In the latest sign that Microsoft expects to support its Windows XP operating system for the foreseeable future, the company has introduced a new licensing program designed to let users of fake or pirated copies of the business version of the OS upgrade to fully licensed copies. To qualify, users of illegitimate versions of Windows XP Pro must pledge to use only genuine Microsoft software going forward and agree to have their software infrastructure audited. Resellers who push the Get Genuine Windows Agreement to customers will get a cut of any new license fees they generate, Microsoft said."

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  1. Yeah, right by sprag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If someone is pirating windows, why would they self identify and then agree to an eternal audit of their infrastructure?

    1. Re:Yeah, right by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, a significant portion of these "pirates" are supposedly people/groups that have no idea that they are breaking any rules.

      If they have no idea that they're running a pirated copy of Windows then how would they know they should consider this offer by MS?

    2. Re:Yeah, right by apdyck · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I feel that it needs to be pointed out that this program targets business customers. Microsoft isn't going to waste their resources on the average home user who is running a pirated copy of XP Pro (probably after a system wipe to get rid of Vista or XP Home!). This does make some amount of sense in that context. The majority of Microsoft's revenue comes from OEM installations (which we usually don't get much of a choice in anyhow), and from business customers who order thousands of licenses. As a former Microsoft OEM vendor, I have seen the evolution of their policies from the early days of Windows 95 and upwards, and let me tell you - this makes more sense than their requirement for Office 97 SBE OEM to only be installed on an OEM installation of Windows 95 or 98!

      With regards to the audits, there are many software solutions for audits of software, and Microsoft keeps a database of all registered licenses (I've seen this database, a friend of mine was a manager at a call center handling Microsoft activations calls), so it would be easy for Microsoft to run an audit of installed software and compare it with their database of registered software. If they notice any discrepancies, they could then conduct further investigation into the cause. Granted, it would be a lot of work on their part to conduct a more in-depth audit, but it would, invariably, result in revenue for Microsoft, so it would be worth-while for them.

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    3. Re:Yeah, right by Bert64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually there are differences, very important ones.

      The pirated copy is *BETTER*.

      You don't have to deal with WGA
      You don't have the hassle of re-activating it if you upgrade/change your hardware
      You often don't have the hassle of entering and storing (without losing) the license key when you reinstall
      And the obvious - that it's cheaper

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  2. msoft: by kevin.fowler · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey mister pirate... will you help us find our lost OS? I last saw him with candy and a puppy running into that unmarked van other there.

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  3. What's the Point? by darthflo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What exactly is the goal of this new program? They offer businesses the chance to license their (currently mislicensed) installed versions of WinXP, don't seem to offer a huge discount on that and want an assurance of no more mislicensing and an audit?
    Why would any business do that instead of just buying a normal volume license? What's the advantage in this?

  4. Re:Yes, I "promise" never to do it again by jimstapleton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course not, that's what the auditing is for!

    But all things considered, I wonder where I can get Genuine Microsoft FreeBSD, KDE, OpenOffice, BASH, GIMP, Pidgin, Firefox...

    awe screw it.

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  5. And? by mpapet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my limited experience in the U.S., there are two kinds of shops, ones that are good about not stealing software and the other that steals as they see fit. In the case of the shop that steals, they generally swing into compliance if the business takes off. In my limited dealings with my counterparts in Taiwan and China, they operate similarly.

    As much as I really, really don't like Microsoft's business practices, this kind of program is just fine by me. It is the brain child of some manager at Microsoft who figured out a novel way to further monetize their customers. Will this manager get a gold star on her review? Probably. Will it fail? (e.g. cost Microsoft a bunch of money) No. Will there be limited/no market penetration? Probably.

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  6. Cripes! by Tau+Neutrino · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's bad enough I have to use XP. No way am I going to pay for it. Get real!

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  7. Are they also going to let me continue running XP by mmell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    under Xen?

    Vista (as preinstalled on my Acer) horked within forty-five minutes of initial boot. The "PC Angel" software (which was supposed to do a reinstall from a hidden partition on the HDD) likewise barfed. After three weeks, I got the "Restore DVD's" from Acer, which likewise vomited. Long story short, Vista only stayed up long enough to get me registered, now it won't run at all.

    Funny thing . . . I got ahold of a student version of XP Pro - ran it up in a Xen domain to prove that I could, then it failed to install directly onto the hardware. That's right - my dual-core AMD X64 machine with a SATA drive can't seem to handle Windows XP, but Xen (under OpenSuSE 10.2) can. WGA works, the virtual XP system is fully updated and ready to rock, but I still have a three year old copy of Doom III which I've never run because I don't have a platform to run it on! So far, I'm only out thirty bucks for Doom III (plus an OEM Vista license, whatever that's worth), but I find it mildly irritating that I have to run a pirate version of WinXP just to get back some of what Best Buy/Acer/Microsoft owe me. Oh, and don't think about calling any of the above for help - M$ doesn't want to hear about it (after all, they didn't sell me a Windows OS), Acer's tech support people in New Delhi don't speak English well enough to understand what I'm trying to tell them, and Best Buy's response was (quite correctly) to offer to give me my money back on the hardware as a warranty issue.

    So . . . if I buy into this, will M$ continue to tell me that I have an OEM license and don't desserve support, or will they help me to actually get their software to install and run correctly (well, as correctly as M$ software runs, anyhow)?

    I think I'll keep my eyepatch and cutlass, thank you - at least, I know that they work. Arrgh!