RHEL 6 upgrades are free for those paying support, so that's not it.
By replacing the kernel it is no longer (even close to) RHEL 5 so ISV certifications are shot. Making oracle's linux unsupported by any 3rd party software other than what oracle itself has certified.
Opensolaris survived only because of Sun's benevolence. Once the source drops stop, that's the end of Illumos project: its either stuck permanently at whatever the last drop was (especially in light of the binary-only internationalization stuff) or becomes incompatible and then its no longer solaris.
They chose a proprietary platform at the beginning and now they're stuck with the lock-in. When you get on the proprietary plane that's the cost of the ticket.
They bought their tickets they knew what they were getting into I say let 'em crash
But, that isn't the point: the open source project isn't affected. The commercial entity which is repackaging hercules has been informed (not sued, not C&D, just informed) that if they continue with their lawsuit against IBM then IBM might consider using this list of patents against them. Again, not against the open source hercules community but the commercial entity.
I think software patents suck, but using a lawsuit to try to force someone to do something that they don't want to sucks just as much.
I think Florian's beef is that IBM's response letter mentioned patents which may be infringed by the hercules product -- and how one of them was on the 'gift to open source' list. Of course, even then he's wrong: the open source hercules project is different than the commercial product which is seeking the copyright license.
The bottom line is the commercial hercules people started this fight and they were in the wrong to assert that IBM must license its properties to anyone who comes by and asks. The patent (non-) issue doesn't have anything to do with it and its an emotional sideshow to get the OSS folks to be on the commercial hercules' side.
So if they bought 5 of these at $800,000 then they've sunk in $4,000,000. Over 9 months they've saved $100,000 which is a total of $11,111 a month. In 30 years they'll break even?
Despite its height, the C64 keyboard wasn't that bad. Sure, typing on it gave me much more finger strength than I really needed (and the nickname "the claw" when typing on softer keyboards), but the extra symbols on the keys weren't confusing and the oddly placed keys (inst/del & clr/home) were much less irritating than some of the PC keyboards I've used with a skinny vertical return key or the NeXT which put the pipe/backslash over on the freaking keypad.
64-bit apps on 32 bit cpus? Got a source for that? Sounds a bit far-fetched since it would basically mean a pile of emulation that'd make the app slow as molasses.
As far as Fedora 7 goes, I had a single rescue CD I installed from and then everything else just comes in as needed from the net. No "hunting down a different ISO for each and every nuance of processor". I haven't had to compile anything (including getting MP3s, DVDs and other non-free things working).
The rep was telling us that there should have been one in the kit and that we ordered the wrong one. I was fully aware that there wasn't one. The service agreement states "next business day" for parts...until you look at the fine print and they mention "if its in stock". For the typical server drive it shouldn't have taken 5 days for them to get around to sending us one.
I wasn't the one suggesting the drive was in the kit, it was the retarded apple care rep. When I wanted a replacement drive it took 5 freaking days for them to get me one. Next business day, my ass.
We've had a couple of problems with our XServe and its been hit or miss. We bought the spare parts kit, and it hasn't been the pancea its made out to be. For a bad XServe RAID drive its just fine, but when we had one of the system disks fail on the XServe, it was a nightmare.
When the drive failed we looked in the spare parts kit but there wasn't one. When we called them about it, the rep kept claiming that we bought the wrong spare parts kit. Only after pestering him for the part number for the "right" kit did he admit that there wasn't a kit with the spare part. The 4 hour response time basically amounts to how fast you'll get someone to tell you that they'll ship one sometime. For this particular drive, they didn't have any in stock and it took 5 days to get one to our site (and the delivery people tried to postpone it over the weekend because it was Friday afternoon). When it did arrive, it was slightly smaller than the old, so I had to fight with the mirror config to make it work again.
Not a pleasant experience.
On the other hand, last night I had a scsi raid card die on an IBM pSeries machine. The machine died and after doing diagnostics and sending a report in (at 10:45) I spoke to a rep at 11 and because it was in the middle of the night it took a little longer, but the card was at our site by 4am and we up and running by 5:30.
On the contrary, I've got 4 new servers coming in during the next couple of weeks and we're planning on RHEL5 from the get-go, so at least _someone_ has been waiting:)
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10.10 and 10.20 sucked pretty hard.
Does it still make you reboot after (nearly) every patch when updating?
Or should I say...
DALE GRIBBLE?
No, I shouldn't.
RHEL 6 upgrades are free for those paying support, so that's not it.
By replacing the kernel it is no longer (even close to) RHEL 5 so ISV certifications are shot. Making oracle's linux unsupported by any 3rd party software other than what oracle itself has certified.
Not a troll, but a pointing out the obvious. The "major" announcement was nothing more than 2.6.18+patches -> 2.6.32.
What doesn't get mentioned is that the oracle kernel would invalidate any ISV certifications that oracle's linux might have "inherited" from RHEL...
Opensolaris survived only because of Sun's benevolence. Once the source drops stop, that's the end of Illumos project: its either stuck permanently at whatever the last drop was (especially in light of the binary-only internationalization stuff) or becomes incompatible and then its no longer solaris.
Stick a fork in it.
They chose a proprietary platform at the beginning and now they're stuck with the lock-in. When you get on the proprietary plane that's the cost of the ticket.
They bought their tickets
they knew what they were getting into
I say let 'em crash
If i said it was closed source then I misspoke.
But, that isn't the point: the open source project isn't affected. The commercial entity which is repackaging hercules has been informed (not sued, not C&D, just informed) that if they continue with their lawsuit against IBM then IBM might consider using this list of patents against them. Again, not against the open source hercules community but the commercial entity.
I think software patents suck, but using a lawsuit to try to force someone to do something that they don't want to sucks just as much.
I think Florian's beef is that IBM's response letter mentioned patents which may be infringed by the hercules product -- and how one of them was on the 'gift to open source' list. Of course, even then he's wrong: the open source hercules project is different than the commercial product which is seeking the copyright license.
The bottom line is the commercial hercules people started this fight and they were in the wrong to assert that IBM must license its properties to anyone who comes by and asks. The patent (non-) issue doesn't have anything to do with it and its an emotional sideshow to get the OSS folks to be on the commercial hercules' side.
So if they bought 5 of these at $800,000 then they've sunk in $4,000,000. Over 9 months they've saved $100,000 which is a total of $11,111 a month. In 30 years they'll break even?
Its yet another club that MS can use against the OEMs.
Don't like what MS demands for the desktop? Oops, I guess we can't sell your laptops in the stores anymore.
Promise to ditch linux? Yeah, we can make space for your wares in the stores.
This isn't good news for vendors no matter how you slice it.
No. the 286 and 386 are very different CPUs and the linux kernel cannot be compiled for it.
well, why were you carrying a giant razor blade?
Those should have been multiplies by 160 instead of 80.
Being in C, it is easier to see what the person writing it was doing, compared to assembly.
Consider if you had to do some nasty computation such as finding what address is used for a given row and column on the screen:
(in bad assembly)
mov ax, row
mov bx, col
shl col,#1
xor dx,dx
mul ax,#80
add ax,bx
mov pos,ax
Whereas in C it is:
pos=(row*80)+(col*2);
and much more readable.
I spilled kool-aid on my original 4k coco (upgraded to 64K with extended color basic!) but a little formula 409 fixed it right up :)
Despite its height, the C64 keyboard wasn't that bad. Sure, typing on it gave me much more finger strength than I really needed (and the nickname "the claw" when typing on softer keyboards), but the extra symbols on the keys weren't confusing and the oddly placed keys (inst/del & clr/home) were much less irritating than some of the PC keyboards I've used with a skinny vertical return key or the NeXT which put the pipe/backslash over on the freaking keypad.
I hate GWB, but any video on youtube with Yakety-Sax in the background is serious business!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cMO8Pyi3UpY
If someone is pirating windows, why would they self identify and then agree to an eternal audit of their infrastructure?
Piffle. Mine is only 6K. Viva 2.11BSD!
64-bit apps on 32 bit cpus? Got a source for that? Sounds a bit far-fetched since it would basically mean a pile of emulation that'd make the app slow as molasses.
As far as Fedora 7 goes, I had a single rescue CD I installed from and then everything else just comes in as needed from the net. No "hunting down a different ISO for each and every nuance of processor". I haven't had to compile anything (including getting MP3s, DVDs and other non-free things working).
The rep was telling us that there should have been one in the kit and that we ordered the wrong one. I was fully aware that there wasn't one. The service agreement states "next business day" for parts...until you look at the fine print and they mention "if its in stock". For the typical server drive it shouldn't have taken 5 days for them to get around to sending us one.
I wasn't the one suggesting the drive was in the kit, it was the retarded apple care rep. When I wanted a replacement drive it took 5 freaking days for them to get me one. Next business day, my ass.
We've had a couple of problems with our XServe and its been hit or miss. We bought the spare parts kit, and it hasn't been the pancea its made out to be. For a bad XServe RAID drive its just fine, but when we had one of the system disks fail on the XServe, it was a nightmare.
When the drive failed we looked in the spare parts kit but there wasn't one. When we called them about it, the rep kept claiming that we bought the wrong spare parts kit. Only after pestering him for the part number for the "right" kit did he admit that there wasn't a kit with the spare part. The 4 hour response time basically amounts to how fast you'll get someone to tell you that they'll ship one sometime. For this particular drive, they didn't have any in stock and it took 5 days to get one to our site (and the delivery people tried to postpone it over the weekend because it was Friday afternoon). When it did arrive, it was slightly smaller than the old, so I had to fight with the mirror config to make it work again.
Not a pleasant experience.
On the other hand, last night I had a scsi raid card die on an IBM pSeries machine. The machine died and after doing diagnostics and sending a report in (at 10:45) I spoke to a rep at 11 and because it was in the middle of the night it took a little longer, but the card was at our site by 4am and we up and running by 5:30.
The start. I believe it derives from the phrase "get the word 'go'"
On the contrary, I've got 4 new servers coming in during the next couple of weeks and we're planning on RHEL5 from the get-go, so at least _someone_ has been waiting :)