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Adams' Dirk Gently Serialized on BBC Radio

happy monday writes "Douglas Adams' 'Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency' is being serialised by BBC Radio, starring Harry Enfield. The first episode can be listened to on Radio 4's website now." The Times has a fairly glowing review of the program, and (for US folks like myself) some incomprehensible British-isms to boot.

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  1. Britishisms? by toby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being British myself, and having modified my own communications to fit North American cultural scopes, I decided to scan the review for these claimed "Britishisms". A North American may be forgiven for not knowing who Kenny Everett is - although he certainly was broadcast as far afield as the former British colony Australia (now a military and cultural outpost of the USA) - but apart from that, what are the other impenetrable Britishisms?

    Can't be bidet - a strictly Continental idea; "serendipitous" is surely common usage by now, though coined of course by a Brit; Chris Moyles - well who cares - one can assume he's the UK's Michael Richards - ditto; Boswell and Dr Johnson are simply subjects of general knowledge; Ravel is no Pom and his Boléro no English hymn; ah, Jeremy Clarkson, there you may have a point, laddie. Cholmondeley-Warner is just a television character, innit. Anything else?

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    1. Re:Britishisms? by fsmunoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Australia is a military and cultural outpost of the USA? Wow, nice troll.

      I don't think it was a troll, just an exageration to convey an image, an hyperbole if you will. I'm sure that the parent poster would say something along the same lines about the UK, just as I will happily (or not) say somthing about my own country in the same vein. Consider it a tongue in cheeck remark about the almost inevitable influence the US has all over.

    2. Re:Britishisms? by Barny · · Score: 2

      Consider it a tongue in cheek remark about the almost inevitable influence the US has all over.


      Or maybe it is in reference to how our media and our government seem intent to worm their way up Americas arse hole...

      -signed, An Aussie still proud to use the word 'arse'
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    3. Re:Britishisms? by Bartab · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's just because our culture, society, and gov't are better than yours.

      YEAH, DO IT! I'VE GOT KARMA TO SPARE.

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    4. Re:Britishisms? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Car boot near the start, maybe? Lorry is another one. Mind you, any American who can't manage that kind of translation is incredibly ignorant.

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    5. Re:Britishisms? by david.given · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or maybe it is in reference to how our media and our government seem intent to worm their way up Americas arse hole...

      I've heard it said that John Howard's head is so far up Bush's arse that he can nearly see Tony Blair's feet.

      Yes, I'm British. No, I didn't vote for him. How could you tell?

    6. Re:Britishisms? by david.given · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the Lib Dems have two main things going for them: firstly, given half a chance they're going to push for electoral reform, which this country urgently needs; and secondly, they're really good at winding up the other two parties and pointing out the things they'd rather people not notice. So despite the fact that they're unlikely ever to gain power, and probably would do really badly if they ever did make it, I still think they're really useful.

      It would still be nice to have a real government, though.

  2. Oh good, RealPlayer by svunt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    National broadcasters using these formats..tsk tsk - I'm an Aussie, and hate having wmv or mp4 only for video download from the ABC, but RealPlayer? Yuk! Poor Brits.

    1. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by resequenced · · Score: 3, Informative

      VLC plays the stream just fine. There's even a handy "Listen using stand-alone Real Player" link; you don't have to muck through HTML or anything. Real Audio wouldn't be my first choice, but the quality is pretty good, all things considered.

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    2. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by piper-noiter · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use Real Alternative. I also re-record it analog-style, save it as an mp3 and play it in the car to and from work once all the episodes of a radio program are out. I'm odd like that.

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    3. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by martin-boundary · · Score: 5, Informative
      The Realplayer format is actually pretty decent compression wise. Of course, you should never use the standard realplayer viewing software for this. The best method I know uses MPlayer:

      1) Open a terminal and type the following:
      mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile dirk.ra rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/wed1830.ra

      2) Wait about 30 seconds, then open another terminal and play the file dirk.ra from disk while it's still downloading:
      mplayer dirk.ra

      This has two benefits: you can put the stream in your collection (maybe convert to ogg later etc), and you won't get the annoying buffering pauses.

      This method also works with realvideo files, and wmv urls (mms://) if you want to save those types of movies. Finally, note that MPlayer lets you skip around an audio or video file, even if the file says you can't fast forward in other GUI oriented video players.

    4. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by Peet42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you're on Windows, and using the BBC site, follow their "Get Realplayer" links.

      Before the BBC standardised on RealPlayer for their video and audio streams (which may not continue much longer as the new DRM-encumbered BBCiPlayer rolls out) they got an agreement from RealNetworks to provide an ad-free version of RealPlayer. It's freely available to all, but only if you go through the BBC site to get it and, crucially, do not install the "full" RealPlayer first.

      The BBC version has been effectively neutered; it doesn't fire up the browser unless you ask it to, and doesn't look for ads in the background. Without those annoyances it is my favourite Windows media player. :-)

    5. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by Ma8thew · · Score: 2, Funny

      Using RealPlayer is totally fair. It's terrible on every platform.

    6. Re:Oh good, RealPlayer by Purple+Screws · · Score: 2, Informative

      MPlayer works fine for me. It doesn't seem to understand the .ram file, so I had to do "mplayer `cat dirkgently.ram`" instead. You can save the stream to disk using e.g. "mplayer -dumpstram `cat dirkgently.ram` -dumpfile dg1.rm".

  3. Excellent book by amaupin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This was an excellent book, and based on a Doctor Who script or not, I always thought it was much better than any of the Hitchhiker's novels. (However I still put the original Hitchhiker's radio series at the top of Adams' oeuvre, mostly due to the brilliance of Mark Wing-Davey.)

    Can't wait to listen to this new show.

    1. Re:Excellent book by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I read the Dirk Gently books for the first time this year, and they reminded me of Tom Holt's 'Expecting Someone Taller' - probably the Norse Gods and suburban England. Now I'm curious .. wonder which was written first?

      (Preferred Hitchhikers Guide to the Gently books, BTW.)

  4. Re:RealAudio IT actually works by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It's like trying to doing calculus with someone kicking your head"


    Sounds like trying to keep up with my calc professor.
  5. For those who want MP3s... by tajmorton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use mplayer to decode it and lame to encode it:

    $ mkfifo inandout
    $ lame inandout --tt "Episode 1" --ta "BBC Radio 4" --tl "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" --ty 2007 --tn 1 --tg "Speech" Episode1.mp3 &
    $ mplayer -prefer-ipv4 rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/wed1830.ra -ao pcm:file=inandout pcm:fast -vc dummy -vo null

    Or, if you want a script that cron can run: http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/record-dirk-gently.txt

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    1. Re:For those who want MP3s... by OriginalArlen · · Score: 3, Informative
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  6. Real player by Neon+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate real player too, but installed it a while ago to listen to BBC radio programs (some of which are worth it).

    In case anyone cares, this is apparently why they persist in using this abomination: http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/broadband_faq.shtml#latelyFAQ8

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  7. I'm glad that this was serialized... by Smerity · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm glad that this is being serialized, Douglas Adams' work lives well in an audio form, and I'm sure the BBC will do it justice as they have his works in the past. I read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency some time ago and it held up to all the expectations I had from Douglas Adams. If you've enjoyed any of his past works, or enjoy the kind of humour found in Terry Pratchett you'd find this fun.

    This is honestly quite tailored to the scientific individual - the story focuses around a computer programmer (Richard MacDuff), an ongoing dilemma of Dirk Gently's great difficulty trying to track down a missing cat (Schrödinger's cat), an issue with the moving sofa problem (and how it was impossible for the sofa to actually become stuck in the first place) and for those who know of Coleridge's poetry (specifically The Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Kubla Khan) you'll be in for quite a few twisting and entertaining surprises. There's also a time machine in there for kicks =]

    Honestly, if the concept of a "thumping good detective-ghost-horror-whodunnit-time-travel-romantic-musical-comedy-epic" interests you in any way, do yourself a favour and either listen in or buy the book - you won't be disappointed =] PS. I'm Australian (but with a strong grounding in American culture) and I didn't find too many 'Britishisms' in Dirk Gently... Maybe you're looking too hard? ^_^

  8. Re:Thanks for the warning by garbletext · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once again, the pirate community says "you're welcome"

  9. Before reading/listening to Dirk Gently... by Ecuador · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...make sure you at least read Wikipedia's entry for Samuel Coleridge's poem "Kubla Khan". There are art, science etc references throught, but knowing a specific detail on the writting of that poem will help you appreciate more the conclusion of the amazing book.

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  10. Shada (was: Excellent book) by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Elements of it were taken from "Shada", a Dr Who series which was never made for the TV due to industrial action, but many years later an audio version was made, available from Big Finish, and often broadcast on BBC7 - my page at http://www.radiolistings.co.uk/programmes/shada.html gives the dates when it was last on.

  11. Re:Podcasting by OriginalArlen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually he major problem is incidental music. It's easy to license someone else's copyright work for broadcast, (read: streaming) but a downloadable file that you can save and play back many times counts as distribution. (Yes, the law in the UK has not caught up to the fact that broadcasts can be recorded. My Dad has some old reel-to-reel tapes of 1950s Goon Shows he made at the time, so it's not terribly new idea...)

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  12. MP4? by Valdrax · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wait. What's your problem with MP4? Isn't it pretty much universally supported at this point?

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  13. Re:Poor guy!!! by lord_sarpedon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its blade length and style varied, but it was generally 7-14 inches. However, the blades of Irish versions often were as much as 21 inches in length. From Wiki. Emphasis mine :)
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  14. Re:good stuff! by wizzdude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be honest, I think the licence fee is worth every penny for Radio 2, 4, 5 Live, 6 Music and the website alone. I'm very happy to pay it for everything.

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  15. I absolutely "Adore" the Dirk Gently series. by gbutler69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't wait to hear these episodes.

    Also, in case anyone thinks "Bolero" is a Britishism, recall that it was used as the theme for "10" starring Dudley Moore and Bo Derek.

    This movie was further immortalized in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" in the famous swimming pool scene which was a homage to a similar scene in "10" with Bo Derek.

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  16. Tricky for radio... by itsdapead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I always thought it was much better than any of the Hitchhiker's novels.

    Well, Hitchhiker's - at least the original radio show and the first two books based on it - was basically a series of sketches with a rather loose linking plot (which varied considerably between the Radio, book and TV show). As such it worked well on radio.

    The two Dirk Gently books, however, have really, really clever plots in which lots of bizarre, random events get pulled together at the end using some wonderful fantasy logic. I'm not sure that will work so well on radio - having heard the first episode I think its going to be hard to follow if you haven't read the book.

    The later novel-based Hitchhiker stories tried the same sort of trick, but didn't pull it off quite as well.

    I particularly love Adams' debunking of the Sherlock Holmes axiom "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth" in the second book...

    (Basically, "Impossible" could just mean that there is something in the universe that you don't understand, and there are plenty of those, "Improbable" suggests something that you do understand and know to be very, very unlikely. It makes sense in the context of the book, although I hope the creationists don't latch on to it :-) )

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  17. Re:ever been there? by GaryPatterson · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, you're forgetting Pine Gap. It's a crucial military outpost for the US, as it ties into their surveillance programs and early warning systems. We don't have a similar base anywhere outside our borders, so clearly we're more an outpost for the US than they are for us. If you're in doubt as to how critical it is, ask your local MP about removing it. No matter who your MP is, they'll reject the idea outright. It's unthinkable to them.

    Watching successive governments bend over forwards for the US' slightest whim (none so bad as the current team, but since Holt's quip of 'all the way with LBJ' it's been clear) certainly gives the idea of a one-sided relationship a fair bit of support.

    Lastly, it's true that we are an English-speaking nation surrounded by Asian nations, but they're not alien to us in any way. The differences are minor when you get right down to it. My wife and I honeymooned in Vietnam, and their English newspaper had the same sort of content that you get here (although a bit more siding with the government, being a state-run 'paper). Add a strong immigration component from Asian countries and you've got an Australia that's closer to Asia in many ways than the US.

  18. On CD November 8th by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 2, Informative

    The full series of 6x30 minute episodes will be released on CD November 8th. Many of the recent BBC releases have had additional material, or slightly longer scenes, so still worth getting if you enjoyed the broadcast. My page about the programme - http://www.radiolistings.co.uk/programmes/dirk_gently_s_detective_agency.html will soon have better cast lists, and links on it.

  19. Stream 'Ripping' by MMHere · · Score: 2, Informative

    One could use "Audio Hijack Pro" (OS X) to capture this
    stream-only programme to a file, then write to CD, or move
    to iPod for portable listening...

    http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/

  20. Who is this Adam's Dirk? by koafc · · Score: 3, Funny

    And why is he being gently serialized?

  21. Re:ever been there? by jaseparlo · · Score: 2

    spoken like a true redneck australian..."We're surrounded by asians, we must protect our borders from their culture, yellow peril, arrgh"

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