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Ex-HP CEO Carly Fiorina Hired By Fox News
neutrino38 writes "The International Herald Tribune reports that Fox News hired Carly Fiorina, ex-HP CEO. Such an interesting move will certainly bring support to those who viewed her as the over-hyped CEO who killed the original corporate engineering culture know as 'the HP way.'
The article, off course, does not elaborate on this aspect of things. Slashdot has previously reported her demise from HP and some comments mentioned some HP employee dancing in the cubicles then."
Do you think that the "original corporate engineering culture know as 'the HP way'" is returning or has returned to hp?
I hope she brings Fox the same integrity and good business sense that she brought to HP.
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
... is another organization's treasure!
They should have got her for Surreal Life, but I'm sure Fox News will find something stupid for her to say.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
Or will it be someone else pretending to be her, but pocketing the money nevertheless?
I forget the interesting euphemism they had for 'lying' on the phone... anyone remember?
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
According to this comment, Carly feasted on the souls of thousands of decent tech workers at HP. Where is she going to find a soul at Fox News?
I have visions of her, the arch-liche and Bill O'Reilly, some kind of undead bear, chucking mega spells at each other across the office.
Peter
As mentioned in TFA, Fox is planning to start a new business news channel, to compete with CNBC. Interesting that TFA makes no mention of her anticipated role in the new organization.
The man they hired to run the new news channel, Roger Ailes, also helped start CNBC.
The WSJ has an agreement with CNBC to provide content. The WSJ also just got bought by Rupert Murdoch's empire, which also owns Fox. Ailes says that there won't be a conflict.
Ailes also gives a lot more info here in this interview:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119160938630350371.html
Should be interesting.
Take a step back, one word to be specific, and you add another one: "orginal."
Literacy is a dead art.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2003/09/15/hp-buys--two-new-gulfstream-vs
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2003/09/20/hp-covers-up-gulfstream-buys
But sadly I can't claim this piece of genius.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2003/10/28/hps-carly-fiorina-hates-fags
-Charlie
"Fox News is just for people want to hear what they want to hear. They are not interesting is differnt views just conferming what they think is right so they feel good."
You can swap out "Fox News" with pretty much any/all "news" media outlets, local, regional, and national. If the news was reporting just facts without slanted commentary, from any side, 6 people may watch the news. People watch based upon their belief system, if Fox fits the bill, they watch Fox, if CNN does it for them, they watch CNN, and so on.
However, trying to tell people to sift all the BS to get to the facts...well...that's too much work for them.
There are no loopholes. It's either legal or it's not.
...she got in a lot of good practice at Lucent Technologies also.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
In the other corner, we have the economic policy that turned $250 billion budget surpluses under Clinton into $300 billion budget deficit in just two years!
While I am not a fan of Bush, the deficit slide can't be blamed entirely on Bushes economic plan. The magnitude, sure, but the slide started long before. The forecasters of the OMB were overly optimistic about the dotcom boom and expected it to last forever. When the bust happened, not only did a lot of money dry up, but the expected capital gains taxes forcast dried up too. That and the balanced budget bill lapsed. Congress started spending. So alot of things happened in the span of a few short years some of which can be blamed on President Bush.
BTW, The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World by Alan Greenspan has a pretty good overview of that happened in addition to prividing insight into how the guy got to be so smart. It's good reading.
It's not incendiary. It's opinionated and sarcastic.
Incendiary would be if it were implied that she and her new employers were going to do something bad to you in the future. Incendiary evokes new negative emotions. Sarcastic just rehashes old ones.
After, this is all just the story of a third rate CEO being hired by a third rate news organization. It's not as if she were being hired by some covert arm of the Republican Party...
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Let's hope she can succeed at running Fox News into the ground. Fortunately, she was unable to do that at HP but if she had stayed any longer, she would have. She can get on the economic segments and tell people how ordering Compaq to fire workers and rehire them at half the pay and no benefits as contractors is a good model for a takeover. And then fired HP employees after the merger, keeping those contractors. She can say how outsourcing is good for the economy as she fired MORE HP workers for those Indian call centers.
Carly, you're a FUCKING BITCH! (and go ahead, moderate me down to a score of zero, I do not care. She is a bitch who destroyed lives and everyone here knows it).
He won't, because he can't. The entire "liberal media" rant, so regularly trotted out by the right whenever they are confronted by actual facts that put the lie to their "fair and balanced reporting", is a myth. Right our wrong, "the media" is, for the most part, television, and broadcast media has been almost entirely subsumed by corporate interests, interests whose political leanings really need no discussion.
When I started at HP they were much like the way Google is described to be now. While I'd have to say that Google is HP on steroids, since HP offered great coffee, tea, and often sweet rolls in the well-equipped snack nooks around the cubical farms, and a well-subsidized cafeteria -- in contrast, Google offers free meals and transportation, among other amenities -- but the idea was the same. HP employees had a lot of freedom towards arranging their own transportation to other HP sites as they determined their requirements to be, specified and ordered their own personal computer equipment including printers, and generally were given a lot of freedom to do their jobs.
Over the next year and a half under Lew, much of that went away in ways that make it clear it would never return. It was belt tightening time, and a lot of it happened in areas like this one, including two job freezes.
When Carley did arrive, she was very warmly received by all of HP. There was great enthusiasm -- and perhaps not too much looking back at what she'd (un)accomplished at Lucient. Right up to the time I left, pretty much everyone was behind her, and much jazzed about having a woman CEO -- and a relatively young woman at that.
Yes things got worse after that in ways are that well known. But in fairness, I saw the first signs of decline before she ever arrived.
Best Carley joke from that era: After she visited our facility (contractors not allowed to attend the actual meeting) we were told that the lovely palm trees in the courtyard were going to be cut down after Carley had found out that they weren't going to meet their 15% growth target for the next year.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
in contrast to the liberal outlook promulgated by most other outlets.
Show me a single news channel half as left-wing as Counterpunch.org and I might believe you.
Oh wait, you can't.
Fits right in with Oliver North, Mark Fuhrman, Geraldo,etc.
Welcome to the team!
This is no surprise. Having worked under the skank when she was at HP, I'm not surprised she's in league with the slime over at Fox. She was the worst imperial style CEO who--though HP had just inherited several new Gulfstream jets when they purchased Compaq, Carly went out and bought two brand new jets (one which was reserved for she and her husband alone) at the same time that several thousand contractors and employees were getting axed. She was a nightmare.
HP now dominates the Windows server space, and is #1 in PC sales and printers. They were #1 only in printers before the Compaq merger/acquisition. Maybe she didn't do so bad by HP in the long run?
Please, please.....
You might want to fact-check your data there, Mr. Cavuto.
Except NPR does it on the tax payers dime.
So does Fox News, just with a level of indirection. You think many of their corporate advertisers aren't sucking the public tit dry? That the farm bill doesn't subsidize ADM, or the perverse medicare prescription policy isn't a handout to Big Pharma, etc.?
Leave the gun, take the cannolis.
The best counter to the "liberal media" tirade I've seen, shortly after Ronald Reagan died:
Someone linked to NPR (National Public Radio, for the non-American readers)'s story about Reagan's funeral, and said "When Clinton dies, if you can find me a Fox News anchor that describes him as a 'great American', then you can talk to me about the liberal media."
Any worse than *** *******?
Don't say its name. It might show up....
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Surely Roger Ailes was the head propagandist for Richard Nixon's campaign? The one that designed the non-issues-oriented feel-good ads? The one that combatted Nixon's reputation for being an geeky, aloof guy by putting him into controlled situations where he appeared to be surrounded by ordinary citizens asking "spontaneous," scripted, softball questions?
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
Except that Fox News isn't a news channel. Telling the truth, however biased, should be a requirement to be called a news channel. And Fox News have openly admitted that they have no intention of telling the truth.
They are a propaganda/entertainment channel, no more, no less.
NPR isn't as turbo-liberal as you might believe.
Sure, some stations carry blatantly left-wing programs like "Alternative Radio". But nearly every station carries "Marketplace", a financial news show that takes as an axiom "an unfettered free market is ultimately a public good". That's a center-right position. The news shows (All Things Considered, Morning Edition) tend to be fairly middle-of-the-road, since they mostly just give the news without a whole lot of spin. The few "opinion" segments, by people like Daniel Schorr, tend to be pretty nonpartisan.
Maybe you could argue that she was just a stupid, bleached-blond bimbo who randomly stumbled upon the correct course of action, but in fairness to Carly, her vision was correct: Only the large [really the massively, monstrously gi-normous] will survive.
HP's choices were to continue to grow [with the acquisition of Compaq] or to die.
[Cf Tuesday's Register article about Gateway: Gateway failed to grow, and now Gateway is dead.]
And the stocks have proven that she was correct:
At HP, Carly faced two dilemmas:
1) Everyone is in the business of selling commodity computers these days, and only the largest will survive at that game [in particular, HP needed the higher-margin server business which distinguished Compaq from the rest of the competition], and
2) Like it or not [and most Slashdotters aren't going to like it very much], there just isn't any money to be made in the sale of scientific equipment, as the history of Agilent's stock proves.
Now you can argue that it would be really "nice" if a big company like HP could subsidize a bunch of really "neat", cutting-edge research [the way that AT&T used to do with Bell Labs, back when AT&T was a monopoly, or the way that Xerox used to do with PARC, back when Xerox was a monopoly, or, to a lesser extent, the way that Microsoft & Google appear to be doing now, while they are still monopolies], but Carly's duty was not to the scientific community: Carly's duty was to her shareholders, and her vision proved to be correct.
Heck, just compare the results of her vision with the current state of affairs at IBM, whose stock has been absolutely stagnant for the last eight years:
QED.
Ok, so how do you propose that companies develop the next generation of computers without those "neat" oscilloscopes that supposedly don't make any money (which is interesting considering they cost more than most cars)? Someone's gotta do it.
Interestingly, you left out Agilent's profit on your linked website:
Gross Profit 2,658,000 2,522,000 3,123,000
Even with lower revenues, their profit has gone up in the last year.
Rush's theory is that it is a example of group-think. You have people squished into a room all day. They become friends, etc, etc. They start to use the same language. It's not unnecessarily nefarious. It is just lazy.