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Dragonfly-Sized Insect Spies Spotted, Denied

SRA8 sends in a Washington Post piece about work at various academic, government, and military labs on insect-sized flying spies. A number of people reported what appeared to be flying mechanical insects, larger than dragonflies, over an antiwar rally in Washington DC last month. The reporter got mostly no-comments from the agencies he called trying to pin down what it was they saw. Only the FBI said through a spokesman: "We don't have anything like that." The article describes work on insect cyborgs as well as purely mechanical flying spies, but quotes vice admiral Joe Dyer, former commander of the Naval Air Systems Command now at iRobot in Burlington, Mass., as follows: "I'll be seriously dead before that program deploys." The article also mentions an International Symposium on Flying Insects and Robots, held in Switzerland in August, at which Japanese researchers demonstrated radio-controlled fliers with four-inch wingspans that resemble hawk moths.

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  1. Re:Nothing to see by archeopterix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, it is actually, literally, nothing to see - robotlike insects flying near a big crowd and nobody took any pics?

  2. Grain of NaCl by Choad+Namath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would take these supposed sightings with a huge grain of salt. If you're expecting to be watched, then you just might see something "watching" you. Sometimes a dragonfly is just a dragonfly.

  3. video link is of an unrelated demo by m0llusk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems there is no video or pictures to share of this, so there is a link to a large video of a demo of some other small flyer that requires a custom player download. This is a good example of modern gotcha journalism where being anxious for clicks and page views and movie downloads to drive their advertising model causes lots of incomplete, poorly edited, or barely relevant material to be included. Using video instead of text is particularly important since that offers a way around most ad blocking technologies.

  4. Re:Why waste it on protestors? by Gregb05 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the 9/11 commission report [p102] standard policy was to hold luggage off the plane until people were confirmed to be boarding, or to search their luggage. There was not much keeping a hijacker from taking control of an airplane. At that point I'm sure they were more concerned about bombing than hijacking; typically hijackers make a few political demands, the plane lands somewhere and they get shot or arrested.

    I don't know if the 9/11 hijackers used fake IDs (I thought they just used student Visas and such), but I'm pretty sure it would have been irrelevant if they had done so, since it's not like they'd have been stopped from boarding the airplane.

    Regardless, take off the damn tinfoil hat, it makes you look stupid.

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  5. Re:Why waste it on protestors? by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Umm... the 9/11 hijackers didn't use fake IDs."

    Damn, and I used up all my mods points... else you would get modded up. Nobody seems to know or care that the 9/11 hijackers all were here legally, all had valid ID, all had valid tickets, none were carrying prohibited items. Nobody seems to care that we're reducing the civil rights of Americans in response to 9/11, when 9/11 ITSELF was proof that the very things we're doing would not have stopped the attacks. It's like being afraid of strangers because you keep getting mugged at family reunions. Nonsensical.

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  6. Re:Nothing to see by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well considering that most people can not tell the difference between two cars, two airplanes, or two snakes I would say that this is a none story.
    One nut case in a group of protesters that are sure that.
    1. Each and every one of them is SO important to the peace movement that there is a whole team dedicated to watching there every move.
    2. The government is just one step away from throwing them into a re eduction camp.
    3. That the government not only has the technology to build robot bug but also cars that get 300 MPG an run on water.

    Finally why would they use them over of all things an anti-war protest?
    I mean if you want to spy on them you send in agents with small cameras and MK1 eyeballs and ears. It would be cheaper and far more effective.
    If you wanted to test them then a better test would be over a military base or exercise. You would be trying to defeat trained observers then.
    If you wanted to test them with untrained observers in the wild then just about any sporting event right down to a high school football game would do and again be less likely to end up in the Washington Post. Test it in Iowa or any of the other "fly over" states that the Post doesn't know exists.

    So it comes down to these two options.
    a. The government of the US can create almost magical technology and then is stupid enough to use it in this manner.
    or
    b. Someone at a anti-war protest thinks they see robotic spy bug and tells other like minded people that they saw a spy bug who are then sure they saw a spy bug......

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