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Airlines Have to Ask Permission to Fly 72 Hours Early

twitter wrote to mention that the TSA (Transport Security Administration) has released a new set of proposed rules that is raising quite a stir among groups ranging from the ACLU to the American Society of Travel Agents. Under the new rules airlines would be required to submit a passenger manifest (including full name, sex, date of birth, and redress number) for all flights departing, arriving, or flying over the United States at least 72 hours prior to departure. Boarding passes will only be issued to those passengers that have been cleared. "Hasbrouck submitted that requiring clearance in order to travel violates the US First Amendment right of assembly, the central claim in John Gilmore's case against the US government over the requirement to show photo ID for domestic travel. [...] ACLU's Barry Steinhardt quoted press reports of 500,000 to 750,000 people on the watch list (of which the no-fly list is a subset). 'If there are that many terrorists in the US, we'd all be dead.' TSA representative Kip Hawley noted that the list has been carefully investigated and halved over the last year. 'Half of grossly bloated is still bloated,' Steinhardt replied."

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  1. I can see it now! by Dusty00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clerk at Airport: "I'm sorry Mrs. Clinton, there seems to be a mix up, you're not clear to fly, don't worry we can get it fixed and have you on the same flight in three days. What? Oh the presidential debate is tonight? Hmm, well I might be able to get you on tomorrow..."

  2. what about ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    flying on time ? :-)

  3. Re:Your payperz, plezz by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You must be new here,... the correct response for your statement should have been phrased beginning with, "In Soviet Russia,..."

  4. Re:oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


    Knowing exactly when and where someone is traveling to with 72 hours notice...naw this will never be abused.


    Look at the upside. I would love to have 72 hour notice before my manager sends me somewhere. Hell, I'd settle for 24 hours..

  5. Don't worry folks by jtroutman · · Score: 4, Funny

    This'll never fly.

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    1. Re:Don't worry folks by Grygus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not for 72 hours, anyway.

  6. Re:Your payperz, plezz by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can still drive state-to-state with no papers. You just can't fly.

    Answer A: They're working on fixing that too.

    Answer B: Aloha.

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  7. Re:Attention America ... by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > Attention America ...
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    >Go fuck yourselves.
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    >Sincerely, the rest of the world.

    Attention, rest of the world.

    As you can plainly see by this article, we're doing precisely that.

  8. Re:Sensationalist Headline by HarvardAce · · Score: 2, Funny

    love how the slashdot headline screams this like it has already taken affect.

    In fact, its a set of proposed rules that hasn't even come close to be implemented yet. Not only that, but if you read the underlying rules, it states that the airlines only need to send what they have 72 hours in advance. Airlines are supposed to then send updates as the passenger manifest changes during the 72 hours immediately preceding flight. The idea is that they want to be able to work on the manifest in advance as much as possible. This really isn't a big deal, and if anything, would help to remove false positives since you'll likely have 3 days to work out any issues as opposed to an hour or two.
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  9. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why bother? Just fly naked. No need for hand-baggage, being naked will be the in-flight entertainment...

  10. Re:say goodbuy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sir,

    You should have visited your parents frequently in order to avoid such last minute travel plans. Visiting your loved ones frequently builds stronger families.

    Thank you,

    TSA Rep

  11. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by moderatorrater · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you're real name is anything like your screen name, you're lucky if they ever let you fly again.

  12. Re:Civil Protest Idea... by dkf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Naw, the government would love this. It would give them a reason to apply GPS tracking to everybody. That's just because you're not filing enough detail ("I've decided to travel across the room to adjust the thermostat on the aircon, so I thought I'd better file a full report with the TSA", followed by "Following the successful journey as described in previously mentioned filing XYZ-1230467361-Q, I'll be making a return journey via the plant in the window which needs a bit of water"). And remember, those filings have got to be hand-written (in your best and most cursive style) in red pen on paper. With as many cross-references (I recommend GUIDs as great cross-reference IDs!) to previous filings as possible. Now, while the tinfoil hat brigade might think the spooks will love this, the reverse is actually true, especially when multiplied by millions of "concerned and helpful" citizens. Can you say "data entry problem from hell"? And that's before they start trying to analyse a single bit of it.
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  13. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by vtcodger · · Score: 4, Funny
    ***I feel strongly that we should be required to have a 72 hour screening period before renting a vehicle.***

    And we should back that up with a 72 hour waiting period before stealing a vehicle that could be used to transport a bomb.

    We can beat this terrorism thing if we just pull together.

    (Maybe if we keep this up, the terrorists will find our antics so entertaining that they will decide to keep us around for a while).

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  14. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you seen the average american?

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  15. Re:Load of fear-mongering crap by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Remove in airplane washroom, detonate at your pleasure

    It would be funnier to not remove it and when ready for
    detonation, tell the passenger next to you: 'pull my finger'.

  16. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hence the entertainment value (watching the women scream in horror as the Slashdotters walk on).

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  17. Re:Back in the day when I was the young guy by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2, Funny

    maybe, but that would certianly hurt your yields.

  18. Re:Too bad for derieved relatives by einhverfr · · Score: 2, Funny

    CONgress != PROGress (CONgress is the opposite of PROGress...) Maybe it is time to migrate to Postgres?
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  19. Re:Requirement is 30 min before flight by Scruffy+Dan · · Score: 2, Funny

    thus raising the cost of travel for everybody with no actual benefit.

    You simple minded fool! Since Bush recently acknowledged the existence of climate change and the remote possibility that it may be our fault, he has implemented a far-reaching bureaucratic nightmare, that violates passengers privacy in the sole hope of increasing prices and discouraging travellers. This is even a multi-national effort as these new regulations also apply to flights that travel (but not take-off or land) in US airspace.

    These new regulations should drastically reduce the US's carbon footprint and all you can do is complain. Typical. Wont someone please think of the children!

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