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New Car Sensor System Simulates Birds-Eye View

narramissic writes "Remember when you had to turn around in your seat to parallel park? Ok, maybe you still do, but if you drive a Nissan, those days may soon be behind you. The company's 'Around View Monitor system' displays a virtual bird's-eye view of the car and what's around it. Video from four small video cameras with wide-angle lenses — two mounted on the underside of the wing mirrors, one at the front under the grill and one at the rear under the license plate — is displayed on the navigation system monitor so that it appears to be a view from above the car and sonar sensors at each corner of the vehicle provide an audible warning when it is coming close to an object or person. And as if that weren't enough... the system also projects the car's future course based on the current direction of the wheels."

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  1. AVM in action by heneon · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:AVM in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why are you giving people an https? Here it is without the 'wrong certificate warning' dialogs,

      http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/INTRODUCTION/DETAILS/AVM/index.html

      While it's an interesting concept, especially in Tokyo where you regularly see microvans in spaces with an inch to spare (it's a tax thing, not land cost), do we have anything but PR here?

      This could be just another flavour of concept-car, in which case it's no more now than it was in 60s Mechanic's Illustrated. (Yes, I was promised flying cars when I grew up, and I'm kinda bitter.)

      The crucial bug to be defeated is it must see everything yet not generate false positives, and that's a very difficult "last mile" to accomplish. Where we are right now is your ubercar backup sensor causes very expensive damage because it was confused the antique metal bar fence.

    2. Re:AVM in action by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While it's an interesting concept, especially in Tokyo where you regularly see microvans in spaces with an inch to spare (it's a tax thing, not land cost), do we have anything but PR here?

      This could be just another flavour of concept-car, in which case it's no more now than it was in 60s Mechanic's Illustrated. (Yes, I was promised flying cars when I grew up, and I'm kinda bitter.) This isn't the same class as the "flying car". We already have cameras and monitors in cars. This is simply an evolutionary improvement. We will be seeing this, and probably quite soon.

      The crucial bug to be defeated is it must see everything yet not generate false positives, and that's a very difficult "last mile" to accomplish. Where we are right now is your ubercar backup sensor causes very expensive damage because it was confused the antique metal bar fence. This system is basically four video cameras. Video cameras are not confused by wrought iron fences. You're confusing this with purely non-visual ultrasonic proximity detection systems. This system is supplemented with sonar prox units for collision warning, but it is primarily a visible light based system.

      Is it really too much to read and understand the /. blurb in its entirety?
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  2. Third person driving! by Tremegorn · · Score: 3, Funny

    The safety benefits of such a system are immense, but; Does this mean driving down the highway is going to be like playing some strange version of Grand Turismo?

    1. Re:Third person driving! by aichpvee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Top down, so it's going to be more like the old Grand Theft Autos. Does the navigation system keep track of your points for running over joggers?

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    2. Re:Third person driving! by Cuppa+'Joe'+Black · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. Frogger.

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  3. It's got a lot of coolness factor to it but... by mark-t · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd be concerned about the possibility that people could become dependant on these features after driving with them for a while, causing otherwise normal almost used defensive driving skills to atrophy, and setting up for an accident if (when) the system malfunctions.

    1. Re:It's got a lot of coolness factor to it but... by WK2 · · Score: 2

      As badly as computers screw up, they are more consistent and reliable than people.

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    2. Re:It's got a lot of coolness factor to it but... by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That danger is there. You can already see it in people who're used to non-blocking breaks. Should they ever have to drive a car without ABS, you see a lot of interesting skid marks on the road.

      Then again, I think ABS avoided more accidents than it caused, and so will this system. Yes, should it fail the person used to it will be more accident prone, but still, we'll see fewer accidents where the driver failed to see someone in the dead corner.

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  4. I want to see around corners by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Forget "birds eye" view - I want a "car's nose view." A pair of cameras mounted at the very front of the car - one camera facing right and the other facing left. That way I can see "around" hedges, tress, fences and other visual obstructions when crossing or turning onto a road.

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    1. Re:I want to see around corners by internewt · · Score: 2, Informative

      A mate's Toyota has got that, but its more for pulling the car out of really blind entrances onto a road. You can see sideways from the very from of the car so that you can see if anything is coming, even when it may be impossible to tell from the cabin. It is not a system to let you see round corners!

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  5. Does the system record the video? by ReallyEvilCanine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mark me as a troll as much as you want but anyone who's been through a Terry stop (or, for that matter, any sort of police stop) in the US will want this recorded along with a few well-placed mics for audio. At least 45 minutes' recording. Just in case you missed it, here's a good example of the reason why. I've been through such stops in Tennessee, Georgia, Texas, Pennsylvania and Maryland and I've never been guilty of Driving While Black.

    1. Re:Does the system record the video? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think the scariest thing about that video is the fact that the police chief found no problems with the officer's behavior. At least enough other people did that they fired the guy:
      http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D46A8EE4AB8299A68625735D000200C0?OpenDocument
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  6. In fact, my dad just IM'd... by Animaether · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...he has a trucking company (long haul, 18-wheeler, whatever you want to call them) and he wrote "I want that on our trucks right now - do you know how many ripped skirts, tyre wear, bicycle accidents, problems with poles etc. that would save us?" And he has some of the best drivers in the nation - accidents like that just happen -because- it's damn near impossible to see anything.. A top-down view of the truck outline and everything around it would be a very worthy investment indeed.

  7. I'm waiting for the first lawsuit ... by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... after the cameras fail to spot something (or someone).

  8. Re:camera to low by aix+tom · · Score: 4, Funny

    That is called "Windows"

    Unfortunately one big evil software Company has dibs on the concept.

  9. Re:Saving lives by tjstork · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or you could teach people how to actually drive those behemoths, assuming they have a real reason for doing so (no, hauling the crotch-spawn around in an SUV doesn't count).

    You just wait until you have kids. Then I will laugh at you, as you try and contort a couple of car seats into some tiny japmobile. And, if you never have kids, then I'll still laugh at you, because you have eliminated your genetic destiny.

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  10. Re:camera to low by wlad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem with "windows" is that they suffer from blind spots, especially when you take the mirrors into account. With trucks and other vehicles that don't even have rear windows it's even worse. Such a system would allow for complete awareness of what happens around the vehicle.

  11. Re:Saving lives by Paco103 · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's there to learn? Ever car has pretty much the same blind spot, some are just larger than others. If the vehicle has no rear view mirror (trucks, cargo vans, etc) , than close behind is a blind spot (you should never be that close anyway). The dangerous blind spots are always about about 4 and 8 o'clock. Too far up for [regular] mirrors to see you, too far back for the drivers peripheral. Convertibles don't have steel beams in the roof, so there's a large canvas patch that would interfere with the view here. True, the driver should be aware of their vehicles blind spots. I personally use convex mirrors on both sides, so even without having to turn I have no blind spots.

    Yes, the driver SHOULD still be checking their blind spots. But as a vigilant driver, shouldn't you still be aware when you're driving in one, and know that it's in your best interest to get out of it. Either pass or fall back.

  12. Re:camera to low by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Funny

    So what you are saying is - if you rely solely on Windows, you are probably going to crash on a regular basis, and more frequently on some hardware than others?

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  13. What do real obstacles look like? by CTho9305 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The demo video somebody else linked to looks interesting, but it's easy to synthesize a good "top-down" view from side views when you're on an empty parking lot (i.e. flat surface). It would have to look strange to see a side view of the car next to you munged to appear as top-down though...

  14. Re:Not so hot by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, Toyota has this system where the car parks itself (http://www.hiptechblog.com/2006/02/25/toyotas-parallel-parking-assist/). So tell me, how does this Nissan toy improve over that? Please. Toyota's auto-park system is a joke. It's for jackasses who never learned to parallel park and can't do it without five feet of clearance and a dozen back-and-forth motions. The Toyota system requires too much clearance front and back to be useful. The minimum space requirement is large enough that I could park in the space myself with my eyes closed. The kind of tight spaces I'd need help with, it can't figure out.
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