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Promising Blood Test for Alzheimer's

The online edition of the British journal Nature Medicine has a study of a blood test for Alzheimer's disease, developed at Stanford. The test lights up if 18 specific molecules are present in a blood sample. Using samples of stored blood, the test proved 90% accurate in identifying people who had been diagnosed with the disease by other methods. It was also 87% accurate in distinguishing samples from people who do not have Alzheimer's but exhibit some other form of dementia. The numbers of samples involved were small — SFGate's writeup has some details. The Mercury News's article says the test's developers want to begin selling it to laboratories in 2008, for which FDA approval would not be required. They hope to get FDA approval for general use by 2009.

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  1. Great, but ... by Angostura · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sure I really want to know, given that there is nothing I can realistically do to avoid a rather grim fate.

    1. Re:Great, but ... by KokorHekkus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As with all "untreatable" diseases it should be left up to the individual. I can only speak for myself but if I started to have some symptoms I think I would like to know so I could help those close to me when they start to suffer from my disease. As a suffer from Alzheimers I'd wish them to make it as well for me as they can but without putting an extremly heavy burden on them. My "self" would be going and I'd wish them to remember me as my full self, if "I" am not there then they should do as well as they can but I wouldn't want them sacrifice their life for what's left of mine.

    2. Re:Great, but ... by Angostura · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yours is a intelligent, compassionate and humane response. Mine was selfish and shortsighted. I'm still not sure I'd be able to rise to the standards you set if I ever actually suspected I was in the early stages of dimensia.

    3. Re:Great, but ... by KokorHekkus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I spoke only about my intetions and I can not guarantee anyone that I will rise to those standards even if I truly wish I will but without intent we are empty. We learn as we go through life and one of my lessons was my grandmother suffering from dementia: I will always remember her as the strong salt-of-the-earth-woman that I met during the summers who served me wonderful local country food and just loved me for me who I was.

      I did cry when I thought about her as she was and I think she would have approved. RIP Hilja.

  2. Re:This is great by iknowcss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is Alzheimer's an unavoidable disease? I don't have any actual papers in front of me, but I thought I heard that frequent use of the mind and critical thinking were a great way to keep your brain "in shape." Maybe knowing that you have Alzheimer's disease will give you the chance to live a normal life with the occasional crossword, sudoko, critical reading, etc.

    Either way, I'd want to know.

    --
    Life is rarely fair. Cherish the moments when there is a right answer.
  3. The value of the test by Procasinator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would (not very educatedly) guess that the benefit of such a test is not in verifying that a patient has Alzheimer's but rather they don't. By ruling out Alzheimer's, doctors can focus on other, possibly curable, mental diseases. It would be terrible if someone degenerates into a condition common to a person suffering Alzheimer's, when really they have something different altogether that can be treated (medicine, surgery, etc). But what do I know, I'm no brain-surgeon!

  4. Re:so what by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who cares about this, all it can do is tell you you might have a disease that we can't cure. At most it would just make the person more depressed into thinking he/she actualy has the disease.

    One of the most important benefits of this research is that they've managed to identify some biological changes that occur before clinical symptoms. That means they can start to identify the processes leading to the disease, which might lead to treatments. If this is real then it's a huge step in understanding Alzheimer's disease.

    You're right though in a way, there's not a lot you can medically do (at the moment) if you know you're going to get AD in the near future, but it might help you to prepare you or your family in other ways.

  5. Re:Politicians by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we require candidates for public office to take the test?

    More to the point - can your medical insurer make you take it.

  6. Lighten up by achurch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My grandmother's suffering from Alzheimer's, and the OP gave me a chuckle nonetheless. Nobody's forcing you to laugh, but some of us find humor useful in dealing with hardship.

  7. Re:Lies, Damned Lies and... by Myopic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's funny, but how is it a pun?

  8. Re:Lies, Damned Lies and... by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    TFA does quote the false positive rate

    That quote doesn't describe the false positive rate. It describes the number of cases of non-Alzheimer's dementia that their test correctly doesn't call Alzheimer's. The false positive rate would indicate the number of participants without Alzheimer's (including this group of 39) who incorrectly test as having Alzheimers.



    Also, remember that their test is also designed to detect people at risk of developing AD years in the future, so, as is also pointed out in the article false positive rates can not be fully determined for some years.

    True, but that would seem to make the test worthless. It doesn't always catch people known to have it, it at least sometimes (5 times out of 39) flags people known to not have it, and for the rest we can't say if it works or not.



    When I call that an abuse of statistics, I very much mean it. Give me 120 protein markers in a small enough group (in this case, fewer subjects than proteins under consideration!), and I'll get you a similar level of accuracy in predicting whether they wear boxers or briefs.

    It may turn out that they have something. But as written, I'd take this study with a whole salt-lick.