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Game Studio Flight From Microsoft A Sign of Troubles?
Newsweek's LevelUp blog continues to produce some highly interesting material. Today they have up a look at the 'flight' of game studios from Microsoft's corporate umbrella. BioWare's purchase by EA distances it a bit from their cosy relationship with Microsoft, as does Bizarre's purchase by Activision. Bungie's departure from the company itself goes without saying. So what does all this mean? Is this a sign of troubles in Redmond, or just more fallout from the huge undertaking required to get the Xbox 360 to the position it has today? "For us, the flight of the Killer B's is a clear indication that Microsoft as a whole is still shell shocked not only by the massive losses in the Xbox division, but also more importantly by the poor showing of Rare, which has to rank as not only one of the Microsoft's least successful purchases, but as quite possibly the worst acquisition in the history of gaming. Microsoft paid $375 million in cash for Rare, and based on the modest revenues from its ensuing titles--a Conker's Bad Fur Day remake, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Viva Pinata--all they've got to show for it is that proverbial lousy T-shirt, completely stained with red ink."
Since when was either Studio owned by Microsoft? This is such a fluff piece for a slow gaming "news" week.
!Viva Pinata!
That's the only reason my boy swaps the XBox on, in place of the Wii.
We are a market of ONE!
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What happened with Rare? I remember when Nintendo announced that it had let Rare go from 2nd party Nintendo developer to Microsoft exclusive developer. I figured that would be the "white flag" moment for Nintendo.
They took with them the underrated Conker's Bad Fur Day series, anything Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie (I think)... arguably the best games development studio behind Nintendo itself. What happened?
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Was M$ forcing them to make new games vista only? and the game coders do not want to piss of people who still have XP.
Microsoft failed to keep first- and third-party developers happy? THAT'S news ...
The BioWare thing is a tragedy, but lack of console exclusivity is the least of my worries there. I don't care what console it comes out for, if I see "EA Games Presents Mass Effect 2009" I'm getting out the torches. The Rare deal was a stupid decision that was more about keeping the brand away from Nintendo, and it's old news anyway.
As a fan of Bungie since the first Marathon, I am absolutely ecstatic that they're going independent again and wonder how many of their firstborn it cost them (really, though, how the HELL did they pull that off?). PGR is in my opinion a B franchise and I can't see it hurting them very much.
Added up, there seems to be a trend of Microsoft failing to buy innovative development studios before somebody else does ... given history, that may be the best news of all. As to the future of the Xbox, I don't really care. As long as this fight continues, we (the consumers) win.
That about says it all. Does Microsoft still own Newsweek?
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This article came off very strange. It seems like trying to create a story out of nowhere.
Last I heard MS was already making a profit on the 360, due to the cost coming down quicker than expected. Yes they took that billion dollar charge, but as I understand it each one sold is still profit at this point.
Add onto that some pretty killer titles in the last year and MS has made some cash. Halo3 alone would offset any losses in the last year I would assume. (Short of the charge).
If you read the statement Bungie released on their website it sounds more like what MS did was pull lots of companies into the fold, in order to foster the growth of its image as a gaming company. Now that they've established their beachhead, they can let those companies go sink or swim on their own merits.
I think Rare is the perfect example of why MS is letting the studios go (though still in publishing agreements for many of them). With a good partner relationship MS doesn't take on the risk of a studio starting to turn out poor quality product. At the same time, its become a large enough, established enough player, that those publishers will pay attention to MS, even if they aren't subsidiaries.
Here is how I called in 2002 and I'm sticking with my statement!
You can read the whole post there, but in short I closed with: "While I hate to see a core group from Nintendo go over to the hands of the soulless boys and girls of Microsoft... deep down I almost hope that Rare actually continues it's pitiful slide into the hole of mediocrity and takes MS with them... but that would be hoping for to much I guess."
Or you can read one of my many posts on the subject on this very site.
Maybe that's actually playing out as predicted? Who can tell. The facts of the matter are that Microsoft got screwed in the purchase.
Bryan
That's the only reason my boy swaps the XBox on, in place of the Wii.
Your boy might also like Animal Crossing, a GameCube game with a lot of the same ideas. It works fine on a Wii, and a native Wii version is rumored to be in the works.
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The games Rare made for Nintendo were some of the only playable non-Nintendo titles on the N64. Rare certainly benefited from having access to Nintendo's characters and Nintendo benefited from having a studio which could competently create a playable game. I'm looking at you Namco and Capcom. After the break-up there were too few good games on the Gamecube and this article tells you everything you need to know about Rare's post Nintendo success.
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Troll that you may be, I will respond anyway.
First, my non-fanboy credentials. I own an Atari 2600, Jaguar, NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, GBA, DS Lite, Genesis, Game Gear, Dreamcast, PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP, Xbox, Xbox 360, and a fairly up-to-date gaming PC.
That being said, my 360 BY FAR has provided me with the most enjoyment and gaming time this generation. I myself haven't experienced a RRoD, however two of my friends have...and you know what? They got them replaced and continue to buy games for the system. Why? Because it's a fun fun FUN system.
The controller feels great and controls tightly (aside from the horrendous d-pad...but no system really has a decent d-pad anymore), the first party/exclusive games are fun and replayable , the graphics are fantastic on an HDTV (and still look damn good on an SDTV), and the interface is fluid and easy to use.
The hardware itself has it's obvious issues for some people, but overall it is a damn fun console and if mine ever went belly up, I would replace it in a second.
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But... does netcraft confirm it? (Sorry, couldn't resist)
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Subversion of the masses through electronic drugs is the primary goal. If Microsoft dies, then it will be replaced by some other machine designed to make people dumb and slow and distracted.
I'm sure all the MS employees, however, don't see it this way. But they're just expendable cogs in the works of a greater force.
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This was actually what I was wondering. DirectX10 could be the problem as well. Vista so far seems quite unpopular and forcing gamers to it isn't going making anyone happy.
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More like 3 stories makes a conspiracy. How many of those companies were EXCLUSIVELY with M$? One maybe? Sounds like PS3 scaremongering.
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In all fairness, he did say "This generation." I'd be interested to know how it stacks up overall against, say, the Dreamcast or GBA. Obviously not just in the graphics department, as while I love my DC, the 360 would mop the floor with it and the GBA is not a contender for obvious reasons, but both systems have had some fantastic and unique stuff to their credit.
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Sure, the system gets the most play from you, but if it doesn't make the company boatloads of money like EVERY system Nintendo has ever made (outside of the Virtual Boy, which I think they broke even on). Investors tend to get a little pissy. They don't care if you personally like the system. They want MS to make them as much money as possible in as short a time as possible. MS, and Sony both keep fucking up, and I wonder just how much longer both will keep this game up. The crazy thing is the top competitor both companies want to beat is winning, by not competing with them!
I'm no fanboy either, hell I love the 360, but the gaming division at MS is taking on a ton of watter. Gota face reality that the 360 may just be the last console MS puts out.
While your post sounds like you are intelligent I am boggled by how you can be unaware that MS purchased Bungie long before the original Xbox came out - that's why Halo was a launch title.
As the person that first responded to you noted, I did indeed say "this generation".
...If I absoutely had to pick one though, I would likely say PC due to the sheer number of titles that I played on that platform.
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Overall, my favourite would be a tie between the SNES and the PC
The SNES does hold a lot of Street Fighter II Turbo and NBA Jam memories for me though
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even then Bungie is nothing without Halo and Halo 3 would be nowhere near the success it was without MS' resources.
Halo was possibly the most anticipated game ever back when it was cross platform (pre release). That's why MS bought them in order to make it an X Box exclusive.
Halo 3 would have been more of a success without MSs involvement because more people could have bought it were it available on more platforms. Everyone already knew about it, so there wasn't really anything positive MS added to the picture.