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Google News Launches Facebook Application

NewsCloud writes "Eight days after Google CEO Eric Schmidt told Zeitgeist conference attendees that social networks account for an 'enormous proportion [of Internet usage]...it's a very real phenomenon,' Google News has launched its own Facebook application. Says Google News: 'This experimental application enables users to create custom sections or select from a set of pre-defined topics, then browse and share stories with their friends on Facebook. We are trying a couple things differently with this application, and it is still in beta, but we think that it adds value to the Facebook experience and to users' overall news experience.' Check out Google News on Facebook (requires registration) — or view screenshots."

82 comments

  1. Still in beta by r_jensen11 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are trying a couple things differently with this application, and it is still in beta, but...

    What of Google's isn't in beta?

    1. Re:Still in beta by chinkuone · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would you rather have Excel 2007 ?

    2. Re:Still in beta by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > We are trying a couple things differently with this application, and it is still in beta, but...

      What of Google's isn't in beta?


      They lack direction. Their direction used to be better search, now it's just "more ad clicks in more places". The rest of their portfolio appears truly random to me, which it may very well be, as it consists mostly of "20% off time" projects left in the labs, or as early beta, or late beta.

      Looks like the 20% time has side effects. Microsoft has been bashed here regularly for its strategy of entering in all markets it possibly can and observing "what sticks", but now Google is in the same situation, even more so.

      Some random Google projects, which were abandoned while stuck in perpetual beta status:

      Google Gears (the page say "early beta")
      Google Video (looks like they recycled some of the tech in YouTube and left the rest stagnate)
      Google Talk (what happened to this thing? They virtually abandoned it, and there are some known issues still not fixed in it)
      Google Pack (they did an update some time ago, that rips off the look of Vista gadgets, and seems it staled)
      Google Accelerator (the ill-received internet accelerator that will cache your password protected pages and share them out).
      Google Product Search (former Froogle, now seems quite downplayed, and no development is happening in it. Of course, it's "beta")
      Orkut, Picassa, Blogger, SketchUp: what's going on with those, they just bought them /except Orkut/ and sit on them, no development or updates.

      Also I always wondered why they work on various improvements in the Labs, like Google Suggest, only to then never push them on the main site (oddly enough the Google search field in Firefox uses Google Suggest).

    3. Re:Still in beta by hpavc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Talk is abandoned? News to many people I am sure that use it constantly.

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    4. Re:Still in beta by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Talk is abandoned? News to many people I am sure that use it constantly.

      Right, many people. Approximately 44 thousand. That's less than 1% of the market compared to ICQ/MSN/Yahoo/AIM.
      There are over 14 million people that use Windows 98 constantly as of yet too, do you take this as a sign MS is very enthusiastic about their Win98 support?

      Google Talk still has audio issue on certain machines (confirmed on two of my machines, where Skype worked great), and a bunch of other bugs, like "100% CPU stalling" bug during long conversations. Guess if Google cared, they'd smooth those up by now.

      Look at what Google Talk users do:

      Google Talk also has several "hacks" or things you can use to enhance your communicational experience. They include making your words italic and bold. Also, many users have found out a way to log in with multiple logins by changing the target of the shortcut.

      Huh? Why should people hack Talk to emulate text formatting and multiple profiles.

    5. Re:Still in beta by jmauro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Orkut is actually quite popular with people overseas taking the place of MySpace and Facebook. It's got a huge Brazillian and Indian userbase. In the US it's way behind it's competetors.

    6. Re:Still in beta by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Their business plan.

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    7. Re:Still in beta by Donniedarkness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google Talk's lack of updates makes me sad. It's my favourite messenger, but it seems like they don't care about it anymore. They've made a web-browser based version with soem new functions, but they never imported those to the actual Gtalk client.

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    8. Re:Still in beta by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Pretty-much everyone I know uses some sort of IM client or other. I am only aware of one of them who uses Talk.

    9. Re:Still in beta by rm999 · · Score: 1

      They may lack direction, but that does not matter one bit to them. Nor their shareholders. Nor their users. Remember, they just announced a 1 billion dollar profit for the last quarter. They are still growing...

      Their search/advertising is like Microsoft's OS and Office - it is guaranteed to make them *a lot* of money for the foreseeable future - enough to dwarf the cost of these side projects. To the shareholder, the side projects make sense because 1% of them turn into a gmail. To the typical user, these beta projects remain hidden deep in the site, so it doesn't clutter stuff up.

      Sure, it's not optimal, but a behemoth like Google is bound to use the shotgun approach to increase revenue. If they don't, they risk atrophying, which is the worst thing that could happen to them. It makes intuitive sense that they will run into diminishing returns as they have previously tried out obvious ideas, so I think from a business perspective we should excuse their more "creative" ideas.

    10. Re:Still in beta by SuperQ · · Score: 1

      Just about every gmail user is a talk user.. text jabber client, in the browser.

    11. Re:Still in beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Google Talk
      Its use is high where people are not stuck with MSN (which means most of the developing countries, except South America where every one uses MSN). As more people start using Google Mail, Google Talk will become more usable.
      Google Pack
      Why they created this is beyond my understanding.
      Orkut
      Welcome to Brazil, India, Pakistan... everyone is on Orkut-ing. Orkut is still being developed (and gathers a lot of down-times with a very stupid temporary page which has no information about how long it will take them to fix it).
      Blogger
      Blogger is still developed. Last time I used it, it had a wonderful English-to-Devanagari facility (basically, if you type Hindi, it converts Latin script to Devanagari)

      These were just the ones I have used, and to me it seems that at least for above mentioned services, they are targetting new audience, and that is why they don't have big following yet. It is quite understandable, because except GMail, none of their services are offering anything innovative, so people are not changing over any time soon. But rest assured, they are still working on them :)

    12. Re:Still in beta by smookumy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Google Talk isn't ready yet. And it won't be ready until it has a list of useless tabs on the side of the contact list, print ads at the bottom of the contact list and chats, and the ability to both violently shake the chat window and fill the chat with just the most obnoxious emoticons.

    13. Re:Still in beta by mrdaveb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, Orkut is now a big success. There are about a Brazilian people using it

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    14. Re:Still in beta by BIGELLOW · · Score: 0

      I don't know why you think Google Gears is abandoned. It's new and it's a tool for developers to use (or not.) Many people have been using Google Gears to take their applications offline, but most of these are virtually unheard of experiments. In the meantime, Google is working to take their applications offline using Google Gears... the only reason it's taking a long time is because they actually spend 70% of their time on search, which leaves less room for their other ventures.

      Not sure why you think Google Video just stole some technology from YouTube. In reality, both of these were distinct in their own ways before Google bought YouTube. Then, Google did something different with Google Video. You can go to YouTube and upload videos... or, you can go to Google Video and search for videos from multiple places. Just as Google News aggregates new from all over the web, Google Video aggregates video from all over the web (YouTube included.)

      I still use Google Talk every day and have abandoned all other IM clients for it. Its strength is that it does not have bloat. I used to use Trillian, but it became much to bloated. Then, I tried GAIM. One after another, I kept getting frustrated with the bloat and instability of these applications. It serves its purpose. If you want more and more features to be constantly released, then perhaps you are looking for bloat... which I would recommend Trillian (I hear they've got a new version that is renamed to something else.)

      Google Pack, I will admit, feels stalled, so I agree with you. New applications haven't been added to it in a while. Some might argue that this is intentional... again, it's another application that is avoiding "bloat." Personally, I think it is ALREADY bloated. So, why not just keep going? Also, when there are new released for an application, it seems to take a while for Google Pack to catch up.

      Google Accelerator also seems quite abandoned. To be honest with you, I'm not sure what else they could do to "enhance it" without bloating something that is supposed to go unnoticed (except for making things faster.) In any case, I have a problem with it from time to time and must disable it. After a while of doing this, I have disabled it permanently. It's probably just something that nobody needs. It was meant to speed up broadband... but if you already have broadband, you probably won't notice small increases of speed. These days, it seems it is the computers that are the bottlenecks.

      Google found that most product-related searches were performed on Google, rather than users specifically visiting a shopping comparison site. So, Google Universal Search took care of this. Google Product Search still exists... but not as an initial destination, but as an enhancement to the standard Google Search. Search for something product related, and it will find products for you. I will admit, it would be nice if they went further with wish lists and the like, rather than letting the existing system remain stagnant.

      Orkut is changing almost weekly, and it is being used quite a bit. It just happens to be more popular in certain regions more than others. Why does something have to be super popular in the U.S. or the U.K. for it to be taken seriously? There is a much larger world outside.

      Picasa is also getting regular updates, has photo sharing online, and gets plenty of regular use by the community. Google doesn't need to completely dethrone the other photo hosting sites to maintain a hold in this market. There is usually enough room for several players.

      Blogger had a massive change, then seemed to slow down. However, it is regularly used... not sure why you consider it to be abandoned. Sometimes the lack of change is a good thing. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

      SketchUp is used by plenty of people, but this is more of an offline thing. You would have no idea how many people were (or weren't) using it unless you were a fly on the wall. In the meantime, they have been making regular

    15. Re:Still in beta by kisielk · · Score: 1

      Google Gears is being added to a number of their applications. It's already in their online newsreader, and rumor has it that it's coming to GMail soon. Google Talk is mine and many people's most used messenger service, and the new flash client released a couple of months back lets you use it in places where you wouldn't be able to use it otherwise. The official client is fairly good apart from some memory leaks, and I can't really think of many other things I'd like to see added to it.

      I haven't used most of the others except Blogger. And I don't know how you can say there's no updates to that, since they are constantly adding new modules and stuff to it. For example the recent Feedburner integration.

      Presumably many of the things not getting improved and pushed more are those which had some major issues that prevented them from coming out of beta, or were simply not popular. And the labs stuff is just that, experimental things.

    16. Re:Still in beta by MrNonchalant · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google Gears - Relatively recent release, definitely key to bridging online/offline divide.
      Google Video - Probably gets killed off or refocused at some point, YouTube is their main entry in that space now.
      Google Talk - Big shift away from the downloadable client toward web-based versions, which seem to attract more market share.
      Google Pack - Don't really need to do anything with this, except new versions of apps when they update.
      Google Accelerator - This I'm pretty sure they've orphaned, for the reasons you state.
      Google Product Search - Didn't take off like they thought, will continue to exist and get some improvements.
      Orkut - Big in Brazil, probably will get eclipsed by a serious entry/acquisition into social networks at some point.
      Picasa - Still around, still gets regular updates.
      Blogger - Ditto. Just got a big upgrade.
      SketchUp - Relatively recent acquisition, probably will be like Picasa or Earth. There, but not part of the central strategy.

    17. Re:Still in beta by colourmyeyes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am in grad school, and at least at my school, gtalk is the chat client; it's what AIM was in undergrad a few years ago. Everyone uses it because everyone has a gmail account - if you can check your email somewhere, you can send someone an instant message - no additional browser windows, no proxy issues.

      Just my experience, but it has almost entirely replaced AIM for me. Google was smart to build chat into gmail.

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    18. Re:Still in beta by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      I was using Orkut before I was using Facebook or MySpace. Orkut was great for awhile, but when the Brazilians took over everything was in Portuguese and I just got sick of it.

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    19. Re:Still in beta by Donny+Smith · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Screw them and their betas.

      Someone comes up with something cool, Google copies the idea (Skype, PayPal, Facebook...) and several crappy releases ("betas") later they get it half-right and kill the other guy.

      At least MS has ecosystem & partners, these guys are like the aliens from the movie Independence Day. Screw Goo.

    20. Re:Still in beta by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Yes, but will you concede that there is more than that one person, or who would they talk to.

      Googletalk is great, because all you need is a browser. If you have google mail, and most people I know do (but then again, I work in a very smart field of IT), then you already have the only IM client that you will need.

    21. Re:Still in beta by rumith · · Score: 1

      They lack direction. Or at least their direction isn't obvious to outsiders like you and me. Google has always been known for keeping their projects secret.

      Looks like the 20% time has side effects. Microsoft has been bashed here regularly for its strategy of entering in all markets it possibly can and observing "what sticks", but now Google is in the same situation, even more so. Agreed on this one. The good thing about Google is its interoperability. Let's just hope it won't be inversely proportional to Google's market share.

      Some random Google projects, which were abandoned while stuck in perpetual beta status:
      ....... Are you trolling or what?

      Google Gears is a pretty recent project, and it's being actively developed. Check out their blog; there's a submission every ten days or so, nevermind the real code that gets written.

      Google Talk - oh yeah, it's so stagnant that they've actually made a Flash client for it, and are regularly adding features to both. It may be nowhere near as popular as ICQ, but saying that they've abandoned it is insane.

      Video and Accelerator - true, these two are generally regarded as failures, although they've said that Video is going to become a video search tool rather than video clip library it has been.

      Product Search and Blogger - backend pretty much rewritten from scratch during 2007, according to Google; frontend improvements and features added, too.

      Picasa - what about the Linux client and the actively promoted Picasa Web Albums?

      I believe you have either been misinformed, or were deliberately trolling, since while your post contains valid points, it's not particularly accurate.
    22. Re:Still in beta by Donniedarkness · · Score: 1

      Regarding Google Talk--"regularly adding features to both"? You realize that the Gtalk client hasn't been updated since January, right? They've added features to the flash version, though, that aren't in the client. I'm pretty sure they're abandoning it :(

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    23. Re:Still in beta by rumith · · Score: 1

      And ICQ hasn't been updated, AFAIK, since April, while ICQ 5 was released back in 2005 [nearly two years between releases]. Is AOL abandoning ICQ?

    24. Re:Still in beta by Donniedarkness · · Score: 1

      Well, seeing as how they're focusing on the flash app, and adding new features to it that they haven't announced for the client, things don't look too great for the client.

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    25. Re:Still in beta by bigmac13 · · Score: 1

      Same for me and all the people I used to chat with in college. It used to be all AIM, and now everybody uses GTalk. That 44,000 estimate seems awfully low.

    26. Re:Still in beta by ShannaraFan · · Score: 1

      I used the Google Talk exclusively. Most of my friends have moved over from the other protocols. For those who haven't, I have my own Jabber server running at home, with the MSN and AIM gateways running. Using XMPP, I can communicate with those stragglers using Google Talk, through my Jabber server. All of my IM conversations take place in the same client (and can even happen within a browser), and all of them are logged in one convenient place.

  2. Re:Depends by Deltaspectre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Search and advertising ;)

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  3. Can someone explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Can someone explain WTF is FaceBook and why such things are popular? Aren't they "Me and my dog" homepages like the millions already on the net?

    1. Re:Can someone explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As you add friends, you get to see your friend's lists of friends. It's all about the e-stalking.

    2. Re:Can someone explain by uglyduckling · · Score: 1, Funny

      There's a very easy way to find out...

    3. Re:Can someone explain by LordLucless · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At its core, Facebook is primarily a system for establishing relationships between accounts. You can sign up and set all sorts of properties on your profile - what school you went to, year you graduated, area you live, places you've worked etc. You can then search in those areas and find other people who match - old schoolmates, old colleagues, old neighbours, that sort of thing. Because it's gotten so big, it works fairly well - I signed up, and almost straight away found a bunch of old school mates I hadn't seen for years, and was able to catch up with.

      It's sort of grown from there - now people can write "applications" that you can add to your profile page that can do all sorts of things, from playing games, to building a personality profile, match-making, whatever.

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    4. Re:Can someone explain by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You can then search in those areas and find other people who match - old schoolmates, old colleagues, old neighbours, that sort of thing.
      Yes, I've lost count of the number of times I've thought to myself "if only I could trace that particularly unpleasant boss I used to have and burn his house down now that a sufficient number of years have passed to make me an unlikely suspect."
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  4. Why? by Virgil+Tibbs · · Score: 0

    Why on earth would anyone want a GOOGLE facebook app.
    in all fairness, google news is wildly enough available for those who want it that those who dont would find it useless.

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    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Most people who use facebook are relatively intelligent. some people like to look at the news...
      Facebook clientel definitely have a higher ~IQ than those of Bebo or myspace.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nope, it's just the MySpace give uses more chance to show off their IQ than Facebook. It's like what Jeff Foxworth says about people in the South, "They're as smart as everyone else, but they somehow cannot keep the dumbest ones off the television."

    3. Re:Why? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Really, it's pretty difficult to explain anything in the world of self-involved, attention-whoring, navel-gazing, self-congratulatory social networks.

    4. Re:Why? by stormeru · · Score: 0

      It's a big trend on the Intertubes to create 'mashups' using different webservices.
      People who spend a big part of they browsing time on Facebook will appreciate the fact that they can share and comment news with their friends.

    5. Re:Why? by owlnation · · Score: 1

      Most people who use facebook are relatively intelligent. some people like to look at the news... Facebook clientel definitely have a higher ~IQ than those of Bebo or myspace.
      Hmmm... that depends entirely on how you look at intelligence...

      I grant you that there are possibly more university students on Facebook than MySpace -- is that truly a measure of intelligence?

      Certainly for the creative arts Facebook is absolutely worthless. I'm a filmmaker. To network with other filmmakers artists and musicians I must have a MySpace account. I do also have a Facebook account that I never use -- but in the unlikely event that there would be people I would wish to network with on Facebook, I have no way of finding them due to the closed nature of Facebook. It's better coded and more secure, but more closed, and has (ironically, since I know News Corp owns MySpace) a more stagnant corporate feel to it.

      I am aware that MySpace is coded by chimps, and there may have been a high percentage of low-brow teens on it at one time (I think they have mostly migrated to Bebo these days), however for the creative arts it is MySpace all the way.

      And creative people ARE intelligent, probably much more so that than the average lawyer or accountant, who seem to populate Facebook in their droves. Look at the networking options on Facebook - there's dozens of management consulting firms on it. Those people may have degrees, but I would strongly question the true intelligence of anyone who wastes their lives as a Management Consultant.

      In the UK now something like 40% of School leavers go on to University. But there's no way that the vast majority have the intelligence to be there, and I'm sure that even 10 years ago they'd ever get accepted into one.
    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Facebook clientel definitely have a higher ~IQ than those of Bebo or myspace.

      Yes, their IQs are in the low 90s.

    7. Re:Why? by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 1

      People like you are why I very loudly make known my opinion that the liberal and fine art disciplines form the world's largest conglomeration of BS.

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  5. Orkut? by jmauro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Will this application be compatable with Orkut? Google's own social networking/Facebook site?

    1. Re:Orkut? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know, is it written in Brazilian Portuguese?

  6. Again FUNWALL! Vampires!` by rueger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Boy, I am pissed. I have submitted Funwall as a Slashdot story FIVE times, and Vampires SIX times, and have been rejected every time. Who do you have to sleep with around here to get Facebook apps posted as stories??

    1. Re:Again FUNWALL! Vampires!` by Xgamer4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google.

    2. Re:Again FUNWALL! Vampires!` by BagOBones · · Score: 1

      Vampires is barely notable in any aspect and fun wall... well it is just the wall with more crap on it.

      Google (giant popular company) integrating its services with Facebook IS news.

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  7. Orkut ?? by arktemplar · · Score: 0

    But, isnt orkut also a social networking site owned by google ? is this googles way of accepting that facebook is better/has a wider base ? Because I know for a fact that orkut doesnt have a visible news section. I wonder if this is going to be googles version of Extend, Embrace and Assimilate ?

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  8. Epic 2015 by Troed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... following the path predicted by many, and nicely depicted in this short flash movie called "Epic 2015". We're indeed seeing the death of news as we know it. How does it feel to become a tiny part of the global consciousness?

    1. Re:Epic 2015 by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "The death of X as we know it" isn't always a bad thing. Here's a few things that had that happen:

      Entertainment
      Construction
      Travel
      Communication
      Mathemetics
      Geography

      All of these things are done -way- different than 100 years ago. Very few aspects of any of them could be considered worse off. Why is 'news' not the same? We used to be restricted to gossip, then the reach of the local printed paper, then the reach of the radio and television... Now the internet lets everyone communicate with everyone and self-style journalists (bloggers) can disseminate information with little or no cost to themselves. China has proven how hard it is to censor the internet and exactly how free information really is.

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    2. Re:Epic 2015 by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      That video could have saved a lot of time by just having a frame or two saying "Hey, remember how Hiro made money in Snowcrash? I wonder if that might happen."

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    3. Re:Epic 2015 by NoPantsJim · · Score: 1

      The death of news as we know it? Does that mean no more corporate controlled media that is now run as a for profit business rather than a loss-leader based on quality reporting? No more ridiculously biased reporters/stations or totally fucked up talking heads like O'reilly? No more news outlets taking 3+ years to grow a pair and stand up to the Bush administration?

      Boy that sure will suck, I can see why you're worried.

    4. Re:Epic 2015 by Troed · · Score: 1

      If I came off as worried that was most definitely not my intention ;)

    5. Re:Epic 2015 by NoPantsJim · · Score: 1

      Roger that. It's just that whenever I see that Google 2015 flash video I just imagine conspiracy theorists yelling out "Oh no!!! we must stop teh Google!!!"

  9. Makes my eyes hurt by Aminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    [rant]

    As a new Facebook user, I'm surprised by the mess and disorganization that applications on Facebook cause. Reading other peoples' profiles is like participating in psychological experiments with lots of graphics and widgets competing for your attention. And don't get me started on regurgitated content such as "Only great minds can read this This is weird, but interesting!", vampire fights, yes or no apps, etc.

    Here's hoping that Google application implementation won't suck.

    [/rant]

    1. Re:Makes my eyes hurt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Let's see...

      Facebook sucks, that's why I joined

      Yes...

    2. Re:Makes my eyes hurt by friend.ac · · Score: 0, Troll

      Thats precisely why I created my own version of Facebook without all the 'crap'.. http://friendsite.com/ .. I to was fed up of all the applications, crap, join this, join that, it's getting too myspacey.. I'd certainly appreciate any comments, and the main aim is to keep it simple with taking just the best bits of myspace and facebook in one place. Add me if you join: http://friendsite.com/rick

    3. Re:Makes my eyes hurt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an old facebook user (been arround since you had to be in one of 20 schools to join) , it hurts me to see what was such a pleasant and simple experience turned into such a cluttered, impossible mess. I have yet to add an app.

    4. Re:Makes my eyes hurt by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Facebook used to be great -- a prime example of exactly how you want to build a website. They knew their purpose, and the satisfied that purpose well. Their forays into other areas that were relevant also proved to be a considerable success, photo sharing being the most obvious example. Events were also revamped to the degree where they were actually useful (and of course, they're quite relevant to Facbook's original goals)

      As time went on, they grew too greedy. Their "blogging" and "bookmark sharing" components didn't achieve nearly as much success -- anyone wanting either feature was already on digg, del.icio.us, livejounal, etc... Undeterred by these two failures, they opened up the floodgates to the filth and scum of the internet (I'm talking about AOL and MySpace -- not High-Schoolers)

      The App platform in one fell swoop eliminated every single competitive advantage Facebook once had, and completely erased its identity. Even the goons in charge of facebook have gone as far to openly say that it's nothing more than a way for them to make money, and a platform for others to do the same. (Seriously -- read the developer documentation!)

      So what you end up with are the Vampires, Zombies, giant smiley-faces, and spam invites. I had the misfortune of viewing a profile with a goatse app in it. That said, there are a few nice apps -- the ability to tie into Last.Fm was an obvious one, and the 'Graffiti' application can be fun when used in moderation.

      Everything else can go for all I care. I can't stand the applications and groups whose sole purpose is to invite as many people as possible to them, nor can I stand the asshats who invite every single one of their 'friends' to their party, regardless of whether they actually live in the same country or not.

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    5. Re:Makes my eyes hurt by Troed · · Score: 1

      anyone wanting either feature was already on digg, del.icio.us, livejounal, etc...

      vs

      The App platform in one fell swoop eliminated every single competitive advantage Facebook once had, and completely erased its identity

      When people ask me why I like Facebook my answer is just BECAUSE it's such a great "Web 2.0" aggregator. My Facebook profile lists my Wordpress blog, my del.icio.us bookmarks, my Last.fm music, my latest Jaiku and my Flickr pictures.

      That is, exactly the opposite to your objection above, and it was possible due to the application platform. Now guess why Myspace recently opened up 3rd party APIs as well ...

  10. Zeitgiest by sh3l1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Google seriously needs to get some SEO help...

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  11. What about this isn't like AOL? by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back in 1995 AOL hit the net... it was an internally connected set of pages that covered everything you might want...with buddies, chat rooms, 'social networking', exclusive content (not public on the 'internet') and more.... I just don't see the difference between that experience and Facebook or MySpace or what have you. Their system is proprietary, your 'networks' only apply while on the site, logged in, consuming their advertising selection, logging your interests to their tracking systems and any content YOU create, actually belongs to them.

    Tell me again why the public and the corporations didn't learn from the beast called AOL which has been dying a slow death for the last 10 years? Why aren't the press, the blogs and what have you calling them what they are... AOL 2.0 or Closed networks after AOL...

    I don't get it. As far as I can tell it's just a big reservoir of virtual Kool Aid... it's not even real Kool Aid... just a big waste of time and energy that all goes to pay a few people mega salaries and a bunch of other people mediocre salaries. It also accomplishes nothing for the greater good, it's worse than a sitcom or American Idol.

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    1. Re:What about this isn't like AOL? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      What you say may be true, but...

      Oh, wait--there's no "but." You're right. One could argue that the lack of closed protocols is the key difference, but fundamentally I have to ask, "so what?"

      "just a big waste of time and energy that all goes to pay a few people mega salaries and a bunch of other people mediocre salaries."

      Yep. Exactly.

      "It also accomplishes nothing for the greater good, it's worse than a sitcom or American Idol."

      Well now, it provides as much entertainment as those 'fine' venues for humiliation. As such, I'd say that Google is no more evil than American Idol. Pretty low standards of them, unfortunately.

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  12. JotSpot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather find out what happened with Jotspot.....
    does anyone here have a clue?? It just vanished.

  13. Coming soon: Google to launch /. like application by HeavyDevelopment · · Score: 0, Troll

    Seriously, what application space isn't Google in? Although I do hope this is somewhat successful, only just because I'm rooting again Facebook and their $10B valuation. I think that Facebook isn't even worth $1 million much less $10 billion, so anything to promote them going down in flames is fine with me. I may actually go as far as to set up an profile on Googlebook or whatever they call it. I have so far avoided the whole MySpace/Facebook thing. I have consciously decided that I don't want to be virtually social, and I especially don't want to be social with MySpace/Facebook trolls/sex offenders/ho bags.

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  14. Well hopefully by cmacb · · Score: 1

    "but we think that it adds value to the Facebook experience and to users' overall news experience.'"

    Something needs to add value. The S/N ratio on Facebook is pretty horrible. At least none of my friends, or groups I've joined, etc. are doing anything beyond tinkering with it.

    If they want to get serious about being a useful TOOL rather than TOY, I'd say the first step would be to give every Facebook user an e-mail address that can be used to communicate with the outside world (both ways). While I might not be interested in using this as yet another e-mail address, if it had forwarding capabilities I could direct such messages as "someone has thrown a food item at you" to the appropriate bin, while at the same time get actual content containing messages from friends who are insisting on using it as a replacement for e-mail. I could also respond to such messages using my e-mail method of choice.

    1. Re:Well hopefully by fmarkham · · Score: 1

      What many people misunderstand is that the S/N ratio on Facebook is the value add. The ability to consume your friends "news" of totally useless crap like Vampires, semi-useless crap like status updates and marginally useful crap like events and photos is the value of Facebook. Its a way of being connected to your social group without leaving your chair, because, in meatspace, most social interaction is also "useless crap". The ability to provide a centralised and reasonably private way of sharing this stream of useless crap is the value of Facebook.

  15. Oblig. by fmarkham · · Score: 1

    *whoosh*

    1. Re:Oblig. by rueger · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah!.....

  16. Re:Again FUNWALL! Vampires! (need options) by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    Who do you have to sleep with around here to get Facebook apps posted as stories?? If you're going to post a poll, you need to include the options:
    • Larry Page
    • Steve Wozniak
    • Larry Ellison
    • Steve Ballmer
    • CowboyNeal
  17. Wow, this is just revolutionary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is really revolutionary. Employing all those PhDs is finally making sense.

  18. Google Being Evil by WED+Fan · · Score: 1, Funny

    Of course, Chinese students who get party approval to post will be outed by Google to the Chinese People Security Bureau, and their parents will have to pay for a 9mm bullet.

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  19. fmail by hey · · Score: 1

    There's a facebook app called fmail that let you access your gmail inside facebook - makes NO sense to me
    but its seems to have lots of users.

    Can I toss in a plug for my facebook app ... http://apps.facebook.com/mycliques
    Automatically groups your friends.

  20. Applications ruined Facebook by Naelok · · Score: 1

    Facebook used to be interesting because it was semi-useful. Then suddenly the option to add applications appeared and now whenever I look at someone's profile, I get bombarded with all manner of stupid crap ("Adopt a pet!" "Pirates vs. Ninjas!" "Superpoke!"). Facebook profiles aren't quite the eyesore that their Myspace equivalents are (yet), but they've become so filled with stupid garbage that I don't want to look at them. So yeah, thanks Google for doing your part to help destroy what was once a fairly good website.

  21. News?? by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1
    How is this listed as news?

    When Yahoo! released a wiki-like facebook app (mash.yahoo.com), it wasn't listed here as story. It launched with all kinds of rss feed modules that can be drag and dropped around the profile.

    By the way, there are 28 yahoo rss applications on facebook, including news, weather, messenger plugin, and music player. I know I'll be crucified for saying it, but I think that slashdot staff are google whores.

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    1. Re:News?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, there are 28 yahoo rss applications on facebook, including news, weather, messenger plugin, and music player. I know I'll be crucified for saying it, but I think that slashdot staff are google whores. Rather than "Oh Noes Conspiracy" maybe it's just no-one bothered submitting the Yahoo ones as a slashdot story. Did you?
  22. Eh? by slyborg · · Score: 1

    I use Gmail constantly - via POP. I never see the web page or the "text jabber client" whatever that is supposed to mean. It's kind of difficult to generalize, since what everyone does is assume that whatever the 20 people they know well do must be what everyone does, since by their own reference that IS "everyone".

    In Brazil, Orkut IS social networking. In the Philippines, Friendster remains popular, If it works well enough, the choice of software largely devolves to whatever the group norm is for individuals. At my company, the 'standard' is Yahoo IM, but because I disliked a particular manager who used it as his substitute for interacting with employees, I popularized the use of Skype for IM in my group. This was two years ago, and the division remains to this day.