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US Democrats Accidentally Publish Whistleblowers' Email Addresses

iluvcapra writes "The US House Judiciary Committee recently emailed all of its potential whistleblowers information about how it was restructuring its whistleblower program. Unfortunately for its sources, it emailed them this information with their addresses in the "To:" field (and not the Bcc: field) It also cc:'d this email to the Vice President. I'd like to think think this is some sort of ingenious subterfuge, but I'm doubtful."

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  1. If I was blowing whistles... by doyoulikeworms · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd surely use a free, disposable email account.

    Why didn't the person just go the Anonymous Coward route?

  2. All your email are belong to us by Ranger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Narrator: In A.D. 2007, investigation was beginning.
    Conyers: What happen ?
    Whistleblower: Somebody not set up us the Bcc.

    Staffer: We get chat window.
    Conyers: What!
    Staffer: Main chat turn on.
    Conyers: It's you!!
    Cheney: How are you gentlemen!!
    Cheney: All your email are belong to us.
    Cheney: You are on the way to destruction.
    Conyers: What you say!!
    Cheney: You have no chance to impeach make your time.
    Cheney: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....

    Staffer: Conyers:!! *
    Conyers: Take off every 'DOJ'!!
    Conyers: You know what you doing.
    Conyers: Move 'HJC'.
    Conyers: For great justice.
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  3. Who's fault is this? by NoTheory · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nice inflammatory title line!

    Why exactly do we have to make an IT gaff, even as massive as this one, partisan? Do we know who's staffers actually sent out the email? You do understand that the Judiciary committee does have Republican members right? Beyond the fact that Republicans don't seem to do inquiries into the Bush Administration, it's not like this wouldn't have happened if Republicans were in charge of the judiciary committee.

    That said, this is absolutely unacceptable.

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    1. Re:Who's fault is this? by Holmwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's really ironic and sad was that the actual email was setting up some sensible standards for control and hearing of complaints (see the link).

      That said, the headline is reasonable.

      This was a Democratic initiative, and possibly quite a good one until this.

      The Democrats are in charge. Yes, there are Republican staffers, but are you going to suggest the Majority staffers said to the Republicans "We want a long weekend, you guys take over sending out these emails."

      That would make the Democrats lazy, reckless and negligent as well as stupid.

      Admittedly it would still leave us wondering if the Republicans were stupid or malicious. (I know, many would say both).

      Holmwood

  4. Re:Could be worse by n6kuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So here are our options:
    1) Incompetence, or
    2) Malice.

    We're screwed.

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  5. Quite obviously on purpose by HotdogsFolks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This reminds me of that Army guy who "anonymously" complained about the torture of Iraqi prisoners, only be thanked by name by the Secretary of Defense on TV while in an Army canteen in Iraq. The message is clear: if you are a whistleblower, you will regret it.

    1. Re:Quite obviously on purpose by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Rumsfeld should be charged with reckless endangerment. This was no accident. Rumsfeld knew how the kid's unit would respond.

  6. The VP cc: is likely the result of a prank by gambolt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tips were submitted from a web form with no email verification. Some joker likely thought it would be funny to use the public address for the VP's office when submitting a tip. When the mass mailing was sent it out, it got sent to that address as well.

  7. Of course by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Next year, they can point to Cheney, and screech that he obtained (and implying that he will use) personal information on the whistleblowers. The exact mechanism of how he got it will be brushed away.

    Or so my tin-foil hat wearing buddy told me.

  8. Who's got the list? by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone should email them an apology. ;-)

    1. Re:Who's got the list? by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 4, Informative
      They did.... and they STILL used the "To:" field. Astounding.

      FTFA:

      Compounding the mistake, the committee later sent out a second email attempting to recall the original email; it, too, included all recipients in the "to:" field, according to a recipient of the emails.
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  9. No, no, no! That's not how you do it! by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You meant: US Democrats "Accidentally" Publish Whistleblowers' Email Addresses (Note the scare quotes) Now *that*'s a Slashdot headline.

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  10. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apparently you're too young to remember when the Democrats had real power in the 80s. Both parties are equally evil. The question is only where you want the evil directed, as that's where there are slight differences.

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  11. Re:Could be worse by StarfishOne · · Score: 5, Funny

    3) All of the above

  12. Re:Could be worse by glindsey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So here are our options:
    1) Incompetence, or
    2) Malice.

    We're screwed. I really wish I could mod this (+1, Amusing At First But Gradually Becoming Horribly Depressing As You Realize The Implications).
  13. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by rdean400 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Indeed. The Dems and Reps are both moronic and evil -- it's just easier to catch the Reps at it because most members of the media (except for Fox and the radio talk show hosts) has a chip on its shoulder about them.

  14. Shift the blame by GaryOlson · · Score: 5, Informative
    "A technological error in a recent communication inadvertently disclosed certain email addresses."

    I call bullshit on the source of the error. By implicating the technology as the source of the error, the Justice Department is failing to address the real cause -- human error and incompetence in the Justice Department. This single statement alone reinforces the point of the original investigation -- the politicizing of the Justice Department.

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    1. Re:Shift the blame by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative
      Someone gave you a Funny but I'm not sure I get it:

      "A technological error in a recent communication inadvertently disclosed certain email addresses."
      I call bullshit on the source of the error. By implicating the technology as the source of the error, the Justice Department is failing to address the real cause -- human error and incompetence in the Justice Department. This single statement alone reinforces the point of the original investigation -- the politicizing of the Justice Department.
      Is this is a joke? Learn who the players are: The House Judiciary Committee (legislative branch) is in the process of investigating the Department of Justice (executive branch). Someone in the HJC, not the DOJ, made the email screwup here, when emailing whistleblower recipients within the DOJ, about how the HJC was going to do such a swell job of keeping the whistleblowers' identities hidden from the DOJ. This excuse that you are mocking came from a spokesman for the HJC, not the partisans running the DOJ- who were the beneficients, and not the perpetrators, of this particular email gaffe. The DOJ would have the political interest in their whistleblowers' email addresses being exposed, not the HJC. Maybe there is a rogue low level Democratic staffer with secret Republican sympathies who "pretended" to make the mistake in order to sabotage the HJC investigation, but there is no reason to think that, because people do this all the time, especially when they use a stupid program like Outlook that doesn't want to confuse you with a BCC field and hides BCC in a dropdown somewhere.

      And since some retard went to the HJC page and registered as a whistleblower using Dick Cheney's public email address at whitehouse.gov, which the HJC did not notice and remove, he got included in the CC.

      "The politicization of the Justice Department" refers to all the maneuvering to get political partisans in top DOJ positions who are willing to influence elections with carefully timed prosecutions and selective prosecutions at least partially based on party affiliation. Things like that are true hallmarks of fascism in a way that simple human error and technical incompetence are not.
  15. It almost makes you sorry for the politicians by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Almost.

    So imagine you're some legislator guy who graduated from law school back in the day when lawyers never touched a keyboard because people might think they were a lowly paralegal. You're a damn good lawyer, and at least try to be as good a politician as you can and still be a successful one. You actually know a great deal about things like the Internet, but in general, high level terms. You are well up on its legal, economic, sociological and even philosophical implications. You just don't know a damned thing about how it works, although unlike Sen. Stevens you are smart enough not to venture an opinion.

    So, you hand this message to an aide, "get this to all the whistleblowers on our list." The aide has exactly the same background as you, although he has a bit more practical skill at things like making PowerPoint presentations. The order goes down the line through a sequence of people with similar backgrounds and aspirations but increasingly less experience and seniority, until it reaches somebody with so little experience and seniority he actually has to do the typing.

    That is the person who has to make the right information security decision.

    Contrast this with the executive branch. The executive branch has something at its disposal called a bureaucracy. Bureaucracies are notoriously slow at getting things done, because their primary function is to preserve an institutional memory of every mistake that has ever been made and is worth remembering. They do make new mistakes of course, but provided you apply the appropriate feedback, they will remember that mistake and adapt to avoid it in the future. In minor cases they will adjust by simply engraving additions to the relevant procedures they follow. Given severe feedback, they respond by sprouting entirely new organs and body parts whose function is to stop the rest of its body from doing that thing again.

    So, in the executive branch, the order goes down the chain of command, but with two differences. The least experienced person probably has a manual which contains a procedure to do these things, a procedure that has provisions for avoiding disclosure of distribution list recipients. Secondly, if the mistake contemplated is grave enough, the work flow is designed so that once a task is complete, it doesn't simply go out the door. It is passed up through multiple layers of review until it reaches somebody senior enough to authorize that. His job is not to check that the proper procedure has been followed; that has been taken care of at a level below him but above the person doing the work. This guy's job is to use his experience in determining whether the standard procedure has failed in its purpose.

    When the next administration comes in, and all the people "at the top" of the organizational chart are changed, and all of the political philosophies have been duly stood on their head, the procedure, work flow, and personal memory have all been retained intact. Of course it makes it completely impossible for those politicians to implement the policies they've promised as quickly as they've promised.

    It is entirely possible that the bureaucracy has neither a procedure nor a work flow nor a person to prevent any particular problem. But if the problem is sufficiently serious, it will immediately sprout all three features. If you lay aside your well earned dislike of the thing, bureaucracy is actually remarkably quick and effective at adapting to avoid routine mistakes, provided (and this is important) that it is actually ordered to do something about them.

    About the only problem a bureaucracy can't quickly adjust to is not getting something fast done or cheaply enough. Fixing that problem requires paring down work flows and streamlining procedures and cutting staff (particularly middle management), which are the very things that embody the institutional memory that is their reason for existence. It is probable that some institutional memory is lost as minor changes are made, which is why bure

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  16. Re:Could be worse by rdean400 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please....the Bush's don't have a monopoly on either malice or incompetence (and to be completely honest, our problems are more due to GWB taking incompetent action than taking malicious action). If the Iraq War had been prosecuted competently, all we'd have left in Iraq now is a police force training Iraqis on how to police their own country.

    No, it wasn't malice that caused this to be a mess -- it was incompetence.

  17. I am not surprised by microcars · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I participate in a Product Testing group maybe once or twice a year and I had to sign a strict Non Disclosure Document and was assured in return that my Identity would also be kept private.

    One day I get an email FROM: The President of the Company thanking me for my help in the past year.

    The TO: field also had the emails of EVERYONE else who had apparently participated.

    Some of the email addresses were work emails or similar with things like: john.smith@example.com
    Not difficult to figure out who they were.

    After replying and tearing the President a new one, I got a polite email back saying there had been an "error" and they apologized.
    "They would never intentionally disclose my personal information."

    So I replied again and said that if this was not intentional then it was incompetence and if it was incompetence what plans did they have for ensuring this would not happen again?
    If I happened to "accidently" disclose what products I was testing would I be able to use the same excuse? Or would I get sued?

    I got no answer to that one.

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  18. Re:Enough with the "they all do it" argument by N3WBI3 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "No, they're not all equal in their wrongdoings. Republicans have been responsible for the overwhelming majority of the evil things done in the US or by the US in the last 60 years, even when you take into account the fact that they held the presidency most of the time."

    The Dems have controlled the house and senate for a huge majority of that time, who makes laws and spends money? Democratic presidents got us into Vietnam, as for your excuse I suppose if Hillary or Obama win the election (both of whom have said they dont know when they'll get troups out) and things get far worse it will be more Hillaries fault than Bushes? get real..

    As for Nixon being over the worst part? " By 1968, the peak of U.S. involvement, there were more than 500,000 troops in the country. During the same two-week period of April that year, 752 U.S. soldiers died, according to a search of records kept by the National Archives."

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  19. Re:Could be worse by ScrappyLaptop · · Score: 5, Funny

    4. Profit!!!! (See? No '????' needed with politics; there's always profit to be had when you control everything!)

  20. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh really? Did they start a war for profit in the 80's? Did they abolish habeas corpus? Did they gut the 4th amendment? Iran-Contra? Abu-Ghraib? Rendition?
    Please try to stop letting your idealogical position getting in the way of facts. From the ACLU:

    This program is commonly known as "extraordinary rendition."

    The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.
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  21. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by _ivy_ivy_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your list: Gulf of Tonkin, Rolling Thunder, 1968 Democratic convention, J Edgar Hoover's decades of antics, Jim Crow, Japanese Internment, Bay of Pigs. As for habeus corpus, Bill Clinton signed the first limitation since the civil war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
    This does not absolve the present junta of any of its misdeeds, however. But it does refute your point.

  22. Organized political party by mollog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Interviewer to Will Rogers; "Sir, are you a member of an organized political party?"

    Will Rogers; "No. I'm a Democrat."

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  23. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by porpnorber · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But you see, doing nothing (at least, doing nothing very visible to the public) was the correct response to the first WTC incident, and would have been a better response to the second. Haven't you noticed how much more crap everyday life is, this time around? That's the effects of the crazy, exaggerated response that you're feeling. The attack itself was just part of an ongoing pattern where the US gets its terrorist attacks (and yes, every country suffers them routinely, and always has) in rarer, larger lumps. It was (in the statistical sense) expected, and need have changed nothing.

    To fight terrorism, you need to avoid instilling fear. Because terrorism is the instilling of systemic fear. I understand that the word was originally coined for the case where the government is doing it, and I'm not sure that isn't what's happening now....

    ...At this point they are x-raying your shoes and stealing your drinks, to my mind for political gain. They figure that in dangerous times, you will vote for dangerous people. Statistically, the only thing that's measurably dangerous about the 21st century is the state of the environment - and I'm not trying to be a scaremonger myself; it's just that now that a significant portion of the earth's surface is under aggressive active 'management,' it's an obvious recipe for disaster that we are not, in fact, managing it. But it seems like Al Gore is the only person in politics who has figured out how to articulate this effectively as a source of fear, so everyone else is starting wars and x-raying footwear to, as they say, 'scare up the votes.'

    At a deeper level, this may all be a reflection of party politics, as a phenomenon. After all, in times of calm, we're less inclined to think in us-versus-them terms, so, logically, we're less inclined to support parties over policies. To get the majority of frankly sensible people to vote for their parties without question, regardless of any unsavoury planks in party platforms, perhaps a level of freaked-out-ness is required. It's a sobering thought.

  24. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by quanticle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What? Are you pissed off that there is a military prison for detaining people that want to kill every last person in the US? Or are you pissed off about those 'pictures'? Man--I'd be pissed off too. Some soldiers take some odd pictures of naked Iraqi men... Of course what pisses me off more is the Iraqis that *VIDEO TAPE* our citizens getting their heads slowly cut off while they are screaming and gurgling, and dying. Those pictures suddenly pale in comparison.

    While I agree with most of your points, I must say that the one of the important things distinguishing us from the barbarians attacking us is that we don't torture, while they do. Incidents like Abu Ghraib and the CIA torture memos undermine that important distinction and begin to lower our society to the same level as our enemies.

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  25. who says it was accidental? by mabu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, the notion that this was accidental is amusing.

    I remember years ago when I worked on the recall campaign for an infamous governor (who is currently in prison) - we tried to oust him from office and had to collect 10% of the voting public's signatures on petition in order to force a recall election. The governor laughed at the recall effort going on television saying, "I do not think these signatures are legitimate. I plan to look over each and every name of whoever signed these petitions just to check" *wink* *wink* This kind of subtle intimidation of activists and people who take a stand against wrongdoing is nothing new. I wouldn't be surprised if the exposure of the whistleblowers was intentional.

  26. Re:Both the Dems and the Reps... by ajs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please try to stop letting your idealogical position getting in the way of facts.

      From the ACLU:

    This program is commonly known as "extraordinary rendition."

    The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.
    I'd suggest that you do the same. Re-read what you quoted. The phrase, "traces its roots" is key here.

    Rendition was the practice of extraditing non-U.S. citizens to their countries of origin for interrogation. It was a questionable policy and one of Clinton's gravest policy mistakes IMHO, but nothing like extraordinary rendition which expands the program to exporting anyone we feel like to any destination country we think will torture them sufficiently.

    The controversy arose when it became clear that we were exporting prisoners of war to Syria, Egypt and anyone else that was willing to wield a cattle-prod in our name. As someone who grew up liberal but has become increasingly conservative as I grow older, I find the defense of this practice by Republicans who don't want to break ranks with the President to be abhorrent. This is a violation of what the Republican party used to stand for, and Bush et al. should be jettisoned from the party for it. Not everything that a Republican administration does should be beyond the reproach of the party.