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Can Google Kill PowerPoint?

theodp writes "Far from a PowerPoint killer, Slate's Paul Boutin finds Google's online presentation tool Preso more like a PowerPoint commercial — a half-baked app that shows how powerful Microsoft's program really is. But if you have your druthers, Boutin suggests ditching both and opting for Apple's Keynote, which helped snag an Oscar for Al Gore and inspired this Dear-PPT-Letter. 'The first hurdle ... You can't use it on a plane. Google Preso only works if you've got a live, high-bandwidth Internet connection. You can save the finished product to an HTML presentation on your laptop, but you can't edit the saved version or upload it back. The Splunkers would need to finalize their presos early in the morning in a rented conference room, where both Wi-Fi and Verizon wireless cards have been known to fail. That would kill the presentation.'"

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  1. Oh yeah by 427_ci_505 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google is going to "fucking kill powerpoint."

    1. Re:Oh yeah by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't say that, but, when people need to be able to collaborate on and share a presentation, this is a fairly cheap way.
      Wish is was available around a year ago. Had to do a group presentation for a class, divided it, and got all of the project members on Gmail so we could work on it as a Google document.
      The real challenge was American laziness. Punks wouldn't work on it until their backs were against the wall, at which time the old MS Office reflexes kicked in, and we used PowerPuke.
      You can lead the horse to the water, but it had better be a fire-hydrant-delivered enema if it's hydration you're after.

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    2. Re:Oh yeah by Instine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bingo. Its collaborative, cost effective, and a back to basics. If you want to make something slick for TV/film or a crowd that appreciate unnecessary fluff, fine use PowerPuke. If you want to collaborate on, make and deliver an effective presentation to others (I'm sure 99% of presentations are not made on a plane but back at the office) then it is fast and easy and no nonsense. I love it. I hate the completely pointless features in PowerPoint and similar, enticing you to spend hours on a shaded backgrounds, faded transitions and border combinations. Like I say, unless it needs to be visually slick for a TV audience, that time is wasted time.

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  2. Using an online app for presentations a dumb risk. by VidEdit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doing an important presentation that is 100% reliant on perfect internet connectivity is currently a stupid, stupid idea. It might work ok for presentations on your home turf in company meeting rooms but for remote presentations, training and sales it is a totally not yet ready for prime time idea. Someday perhaps, but not today. There are enough things that can go wrong with a presentation without using an on line app.

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  3. Offline Google applications by BrerBear · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wasn't Google getting ready to use its Google Gears plugin to allow offline access to its apps? That includes features like offline storage and resource loading and works cross-platform.

    It doesn't sound like this would be a barrier for much longer.

  4. Just kill presentation software by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone else think all presentation software should be banned, on the basis of services to humanity?

    • Slideshows can support effective presentation styles well
    • Most slideshows don't do this
    • Instead they're full of bullets
      • and sub-bullets
      • which don't really add anything
      • and are hard to read while listening to the speaker
      • and often just say the same anyway
    • Instead, we could just go back to explaining things orally
    • Slideshows should be reserved for useful supporting graphics
    • That doesn't mean random clip-art! :-) :-/ }:-)
    • In fact, almost everything promoted and supported by presentation software like Powerpoint is widely acknowledged by communications trainers as a bad thing

    Conclusions: we should just abandon the concept, and save zillions of hours of wasted office time every year.

    (But it won't happen, because it would expose managers who suck.)

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    1. Re:Just kill presentation software by SpeedyDX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not so much a critique of presentation software so much as a critique of how people USE it.

      Whoever sets up the presentations for Steve Jobs, for example, tends to do a pretty good job for his keynotes.

      I personally use presentation software not to present information to others, but as "cue cards" for myself.

      Presentation software has its uses, although I would agree with you that most of the time, it's used very, very poorly.

    2. Re:Just kill presentation software by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not so much a critique of presentation software so much as a critique of how people USE it.

      You're right of course, and my post was meant to be humorous rather than entirely literal.

      However, presentation software is like word processors, only worse: it's one of those things where businesses expect everyone to be able to use it effectively, yet never provide any training. As a consequence, those businesses get information being poorly presented and therefore lose time due to inefficiency. Good presentation style is like good graphic design and typography: the audience doesn't even notice it, they just take in the content efficiently and come away with the intended impression.

      Steve Jobs is, as you noted, an excellent presenter. Most corporate people aren't, as you can tell by the number of insanely overcomplicated diagrams, extensive bullet points, clip art "jokes", and transition effects they manage to cram into what should have been a simple, concise presentation.

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    3. Re:Just kill presentation software by znu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whoever sets up the presentations for Steve Jobs, for example, tends to do a pretty good job for his keynotes


      This article comparing the presentation styles of Jobs and Gates is quite relevant here. (And quite entertaining.)

      Most people treat their slides as a sort of scratch pad. They don't figure out what information they're going to present, then figure out what they have to say and what should go on the slides. They figure out what they're going to say by writing it on the slides. Then they go in and read the slides.

      Doing really first-rate presentations is hard. The vast majority of business types who are expected to give presentations don't remotely have the graphics design or (more importantly) information design skills to do it well. Even when you have first-rate people doing it, it takes quite a lot of time. Supposedly a Steve Job keynote takes weeks to prepare, and there's probably an entire team involved.
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    4. Re:Just kill presentation software by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Seriously, it's not presentations that are the problem, it is a combination of:

      1. Presentation software that offers little more than bullet points and a picture here and there.
      2. Users who have no real training or skill in creating a presentation, but can't find an art department in their company because the manager decided that, with so much presentation software available, why continue paying for people who know how to make a presentation?

      I've seen some really good presentations, created by professionals, that incorporated various visual cues, OLE objects (to render some sort of object in real time), etc. I envision presentations that are somewhat interactive -- for example, embedding a 3D rendering object that allows the use of a mouse to rotate the object and zoom in, so that you can answer questions from the audience and show the 3D model in whatever way is necessary to explain some detail. Or an embedded web page, so that you don't have to stop, pull up a web browser, go to the web page, then switch back to the presentation program, and go back to full screen mode.

      Really, embedded charts are a good start, but don't go far enough. We need to embed objects that can be updated in real time. Sadly, that requires the skill of a professional presentation designer, and like I said, who wants to pay for someone like that when you can just make a bunch of bullets? Seems to be the solution to everything these days: bullets.

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    5. Re:Just kill presentation software by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 5, Funny

      No no, we should just ban bullets

      Bullets don't kill presentations, people kill presentations...

      Someone had to say it... I still don't know why it had to be me...

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  5. Keynote by NickCatal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have to say, and this is after using Powerpoint many times over, Keynote blows PP out of the water. It has to be one of the best applications for the Mac when it comes to real-world usefulness.

    Google's online apps are crap (except Gmail.) I don't want to have to be tethered to an internet-enabled computer all the time, much less use everything inside of a web browser. Word & Excel are great applications (well, the 'ribbon' thing kinda pisses me off) and have really set the bar for office applications. I've tried OpenOffice, NeoOffice, Pages, Omni, etc, etc, etc and I keep going back to Word and Excel. And I don't want to consider myself a Microsoft (or Apple) fanboy at all.

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  6. Maybe Presentations aren't for you by Bryansix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody should use Powerpoint in the first place unless the presentation is tried and true, and the visual stimulus actually adds value to the presentation. I had so many professors in College who sucked at teaching and the fact that they used Powerpoint just made it worse. It was usually just long winded quotes straight out of the text in a font too small to read on the screen. You would have to go over the powerpoint before class or print it out just to be able to read it thus totally defeating the medium.

    The Point is that people shouldn't be using Powerpoint or anything like it unless they have the time beforehand to make it something usefull.

  7. Summary by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Funny
    Powerpoint

    Strengths

    • Standard
    • Multiplatform
    • Powerful
    Weaknesses
    • Microsoft=Evil
    • Somewhat Expensive
    Preso

    Strengths

    • Free
    • Works OK
    • Google=Good
    Weaknesses

    • Sucks
    • Only Online
    • No Animation ,li>No Image Tools
    • Can't Bet Company On It
    Keynote

    Strengths

    • Better than PowerPoint
    • Lickable
    • Apple=Good
    • Finer Control
    • Create LOL Cats in Record Time
    Weaknesses

    • None. That Shalt Not Question the One and Holy Jobs

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    1. Re:Summary by GaryPatterson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keynote ... Create LOL Cats in Record Time

      And on reflective black glass surfaces! Ooh!

      They're in ur presentation, eating ur clipartz!

      I think I need a shower now. (shudder)

  8. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by iron-kurton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not just stupid to rely on an internet connection, but also to use BETA versions for anything serious - I can attest to that. After forgetting my DVI converter for my MBP, and borrowing my professor's windows laptop to do a presentation, IE barfed on it, and I had egg on my face during the presentation. Words were cut off, text boxes jumbled, some slides didn't even show. He didn't have FF.

    A fellow colleague offered me her (earlier version) MacBook, but it didn't work in Safari at all. All I got was a blank screen. She didn't have FF either.

    It is a stupid idea to use BETA versions for something even remotely serious. I've learned my lessons: never rely on an internet conncetion, never use BETA software, and never assume that just because it works in Firefox, it works elsewhere.

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  9. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by kisielk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's where the Google Gears technology is supposed to step in and let you bring your content offline. While not yet ready for prime time, I wouldn't be surprised to see it integrated with all the Google Docs applications in the next 6 months.

  10. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by GIL_Dude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wouldn't even trust the local connection at my office (and this is a campus of 5,000 people). Too many times in the past the proxy server array has come to a halt or even - get this - some jacknut on a backhoe cuts all of the fiber into the complex. Yep - multiple providers giving us access to "the cloud", but the bundles of fiber still come in through one entry point and it has been cut in the past.

    If I was going to do a presentation at all, the whole thing would be local and have absolutely no dependency on a network. I actually DO presentations frequently in front of small audiences (so far up to 300 people) and you always want to have the thing work no matter what. This means multiple notebooks, a couple of memory keys, maybe a copy on CD, and anything that is going to be demo that requires the network should have slides that have a canned copy (or a movie) of the demo. Otherwise you risk leaving the audience not only underwhelmed with your lack of foresight, but also not getting the full benefit of the materials you intended to show them.

    Online only presentation? Not gonna do it; wouldn't be prudent...

  11. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What you really learned is even more fundamental - it's not done till it's tested. Keep that in mind and you'll go wrong very infrequently.

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  12. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by Y-Crate · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doing an important presentation that is 100% reliant on perfect internet connectivity is currently a stupid, stupid idea. It might work ok for presentations on your home turf in company meeting rooms but for remote presentations, training and sales it is a totally not yet ready for prime time idea. Someday perhaps, but not today. There are enough things that can go wrong with a presentation without using an on line app.

    While I know it's all the rage to imagine everything from Office to Photoshop as a web app, I simply don't want to rely on having an internet connection for anything that doesn't inherently require it (browsing the web, using ftp, ssh or email, etc). Widespread access to the internet is not universal access to the internet, and connection quality varies so greatly, that I don't want to have my productivity beholden to the whims of the local network (if there even is one) that I happen to be using, and deal with the fact the processing power of my machine has been rendered irrelevant thanks to someone downloading 500 simultaneous HD hentai torrents.

    Even if everything works 100% of the time, it is still an unnecessary layer of vulnerability, and not just from a security perspective, but from a "I can never know for sure that the experience will be the same each time I run the app."

    On my machine, I know a crap app will run poorly each and every time, and that a well-done app will most likely perform as it should each and every time.

    Anytime, anywhere access with predictable performance is something that no online app developer can offer, and I'm not going to move to any of their products because of that.
  13. Re:Using an online app for presentations a dumb ri by gmack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's even worse since everyone seems to be copying a second rate product in the first place.

    Powerpoint is the wrong way to do presentations that are in any way more complex than a slide show. Want to skip back? Hit the back arrow twice or remember the slide number and punch it into the keyboard. Even with dual monitors you don't get much more than the ability to see what's ahead of behind.

    Proper presentation software would give you a proper click able control screen where you can click back and forth.

    I find it somewhat sad that the best way to view power point presentations is actually via Software designed to run a church service