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BBC "Not In Bed With Bill Gates"

whoever57 writes "The BBC's head of technology denied rumors that a secret deal with Microsoft was behind the XP-only launch of the BBC's iPlayer. According to Ashley Highfield, the reason that the player only supports Windows XP is that only a small number of Linux visitors have come to the BBC's website. Why he would expect a large number of Linux-based visitors to the site when the media downloads are Windows XP only is not clear. He also thinks that 'Launching a software service to every platform simultaneously would have been launch suicide,' despite the example of many major sites that support Linux (even if this is through the closed-source flash player)."

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  1. Lame reason. by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is 'a small number of linux users' a reason for going with this? What is wrong with using a format that is available everywhere (including portable players!) as a matter of course?

    1. Re:Lame reason. by philicorda · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have this in reverse.
      Making the videos only work in Windows specific media players is more effort than using a common freely available codec.

      At an extreme, having a single page with links to the videos in mpeg format would have taken one person a day to set up.

      They may have their reasons, but technically the simplest solution is often... the simplest one.

    2. Re:Lame reason. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or...... you cater to your audience. I don't see the problem with any of this. I STILL haven't coded my website to be compliant with Konqueror or Safari. That's not to say they don't work in either, I just don't care because the ratio of Windows and IE+Firefox to Safari+Konqueror+every_other_OS_specific_browser_ever is something like 100:1.

      The demographic on /. might include every weird browser out there (I'm looking at you Opera.) Slashdot is not "the norm" by any means. I run MANY websites with very comprehensive statistics to verify my claims.

      BY THE WAY I'm aware that this is due to a proprietary and closed source player, hence the issue. It's not like you can't:
      A) Get your news elsewhere
      -or
      B) READ, instead of watch video.

  2. A wise designer once told me... by JetScootr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You don't decide how big to build the bridge by counting the number of people swimming the river."
    Cuz once the bridge is up, hundreds more who couldn't swim the distance will want to cross.

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    Pavlov wouldn't be so famous if he'd used a can opener instead of a bell.
  3. Why not design for open in the first place? by Nomen+Publicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Beeb did it because it was the cheapest, easiest, but not best, option.

    That said, it was a really stupid move and managed to get everybody from the smallest Linux hacker to the UK government commenting in public about the policy.

    Creating an open "player" for all platforms would have taken more resources at first, but from that point on all future platforms would be supported by the people who use the platform.

    Sadly, the Beeb needs closed source to implement the no-save and timed delete features forced on them by others.

  4. Love the summary by toleraen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why he would expect a large number of Linux-based visitors to the site when the media downloads are Windows XP only is not clear. Hey Fudmitter, he's not talking about the media site, he's talking about news.bbc.co.uk. Still that seems a little low. We should have upped those numbers for him and linked his site directly in the summary...
  5. Re:BBC's charter by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The interesting bit here is the Beeb isn't really a commercial organization. They're a public entity which is strictly required [wikipedia.org] to keep itself free of commercial and political influence.

    They're also required to account for their spending and for keeping costs down. If they proposed a completely open player and it was a significant amount of money more than the Microsoft one then they would have to justify why they went with the costly option.

    Granted I've not worked in a non-profit organisation, but even so, I think that justifying a larger spend on something that affects less than 0.004% of visitors is going to be a very tough sell for anyone.

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  6. Re:Stats not about iPlayer by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He is throwing numbers out doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Linux visitors to the BBC site has to be a hell of a lot higher than that. 400 to 600 hundred linux users? I got more than that when I was was working for a local Virginia newspaper! We had over 100,000 visits per day, linux users were running steady at about 2%. The problem with linux users was you never knew which browser they were going to use, opera, firefox, konqueror even EI running under wine.

  7. Re:Based on Kontiki so no Linux version by kebes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shall we build a Windows, Mac or Linux player? No-brainer, really, when the P2P distribution layer is Windows only. Sure... but isn't that backwards?

    Generally you shouldn't pick your technology (programming language, toolkit, etc.) and then pick your audience based on what it supports. Instead, you should write out a list of requirements, and then pick the technology that satisfies all those needs. In this case, if one of the requirements was: "Must be available to all fee-paying persons with computer access (i.e.: must be platform agnostic)" then an OS-specific technology would never have been chosen in the first place.

    I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume that this is a result of mis-management (e.g. not thinking very hard about requirements) rather than corruption (e.g. collusion with software companies), but in any case I question their planning process.

    (And to those who may respond that "must support DRM" was one of the requirements in the initial design, and could only be satisfied using Windows-only software, I would then say that placing content protection above equal treatment of fee-paying users was, again, a poor design decision for an organization like the BBC.)