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Single Nanotube Becomes World's Smallest Radio

Invisible Pink Unicorn writes "Researchers at the National Science Foundation have utilized a single carbon nanotube to perform all the functions of a standard radio, acting as an antenna, tunable filter, amplifier, and demodulator. They were then able to tune in a radio signal generated in the room and play it back through an attached speaker. The device is functional across a bandwidth widely used for commercial radio. From the NSF: 'The source content for the first laboratory test of the radio was "Layla," by Derek and the Dominos, followed soon after by "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys.'"

152 comments

  1. Apple Product Announcement by TheDrewbert · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Apple iTube. Don't buy just one, buy the whole series.

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    1. Re:Apple Product Announcement by Soko · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Apple iTube. Don't buy just one, buy the whole series.

      Quick - someone call Ted Series of Tubes Stevens - we found what he's looking for.

      Soko

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  2. Commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When a single nanotube can cut out the commercials on my FM radio- THATS when I will get excited.

    1. Re:Commercials by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, you not only want the entertainment for free, you want the distributer to pay for the privilege of getting it to your ears. That's a wonderful business idea, I'm sure someone will take that up immediately.

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    2. Re:Commercials by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, you not only want the entertainment for free, you want the distributer to pay for the privilege of getting it to your ears
      Please excuse me if I have a little trouble working up any sympathy for those poor, downtrodden advertisers.

      I don't mind hearing advertising with my music, but nearly 20 minutes per hour (as during drive time) is a little excessive, don't you think? I'm not prepared to start having bake sales for industries that got so greedy that it has driven them to near extinction.

      I'm pretty sick of corporations, whole industries, that believed they could treat their customers badly while attempting to drive every possible penny into their pockets, then start crying and whining when something better comes along and those customers turn their backs. It does seem, though, that killing the golden goose through greed is a defining characteristic of all corporations in this age of slash and burn profitism.
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    3. Re:Commercials by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about the advertisers? There are costs associated with running a radio station, and they are typically paid through commercials.

      Everything else you've said amounts to a rant in the grand Slashdot tradition - you waited for something vaguely related to come up and you spewed forth.

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    4. Re:Commercials by sedman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope you don't think you are the customer. The customer of a radio station is the advertiser. You are simply the product.

      Now get back on the shelf, like a good product, and try to look good for the customers.

    5. Re:Commercials by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Yes, those radio stations treat you so badly, forcing you to listen to them, forcing you to listen to the commercials, never letting you turn the radio off or change stations... it's awful, simply awful how poorly you're treated.

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    6. Re:Commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The catch for the radio station is that although the advertisers do seem to view us as the product, the radio station can't afford to think of us as anything but a customer (albeit one dealing in a custom other than cash.) The reason being, of course, that a product can't simply up and walk away...

    7. Re:Commercials by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      So here's a business opportunity: Sell digital radio sets that require a smart card, something like a telephone SIM, to decrypt scrambled programmes. Broadcast advert-free scrambled programmes, funded by the purchase of said decoder cards. You'll need a lot of capital, but advert-free is a novelty that doesn't wear off -- check out the BBC sometime.

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    8. Re:Commercials by Nullav · · Score: 1

      How did the GP say anything like that? In the case of radio, the listeners are the product. The advertisers pay the stations so that people will hear their ads and potentially buy what they're selling. The stations are (potentially) selling your time.

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    9. Re:Commercials by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      It does seem, though, that killing the golden goose through greed is a defining characteristic of all corporations in this age of slash and burn profitism.

      I hate to break it to you, but short-sightedness is basically the defining characteristic of all of human history.
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    10. Re:Commercials by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      What??? Did Microsoft sign an OEM agreement with radio makers while I wasn't paying attention??? YOU BASTARDS!!!

      Joking aside, this is why I got satellite radio. I don't mind paying $15/month to NOT be bombarded with commercials. Now, if XM would stop playing the same 50 songs (don't think we didn't notice), and replace those annoying DJ interruptions telling me about how I can find out about traffic in San Antonio by tuning to channel 290 with a friggen randomizer, that would be cool.

      Even thought there's NO way anybody from XM or Sirius is reading this, I'll drop a little rant that might get googled by someone with a say someday: How about letting subscribers program a channel or ten? Think submitting iTunes playlist "set" and people can go online to rate play lists for air play. Those with the highest rating get played in the next block. You can limit the catalog to fit the channel.

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    11. Re:Commercials by sedman · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm pretty sure they view keeping listeners more as an inventory management issue than a customer service issue.

      It is true that they don't want us to walk away, but the reason is that they can't sell what they don't have.

    12. Re:Commercials by terrymr · · Score: 1

      I'll drop a little rant that might get googled by someone with a say someday: How about letting subscribers program a channel or ten? Think submitting iTunes playlist "set" and people can go online to rate play lists for air play. Those with the highest rating get played in the next block. You can limit the catalog to fit the channel.

      Sounds like a cool idea ... but record companies probably charge a higher royalty rate for interactive music services.

    13. Re:Commercials by chaoticgeek · · Score: 1

      What I hate is out of the 5 radio stations I get on my drive to school only three of them have music I like. One is available for about half the trip, then for the other half I have another, then for the whole trip I've got one classic rock. On my way to school this morning I had the second radio station on and they finished up with a show and started their "40 minute Rock Block" Which was 40 minutes of songs, after each song though during that 40 minutes they had someone come on and tell you it was brought to you by company XYZ. Then after the show they had 15 minutes of straight commercials. I'd rather have a few songs, few commercials, few songs, few commercials then 40 minutes of songs, interrupted after each one then 15 minutes of commercials. On top of that it took them at least 5 minutes to introduce company XYZ in the beginning telling me that they paid for this 40 minute rock block.

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    14. Re:Commercials by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      If you want (almost) commercial-free radio, tune to Public Radio. I feel abused any time I tune to another station and have a 30% chance of stumbling into a commercial. Since there's a wide range of quality in Public Radio stations, I recommend KQED. Stay away from Public Radio on satellite - it sucks. Instead, listen on http://www.kqed.org/.

      Another reason I like them: I can control how much I pay them. If I like them a lot, they get a lot. If they suck - well, they don't get a penny. Honestly, my time is far more valuable to me than my money. I'll gladly fork over cash for the sake of not having to listen to insipid ads.

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    15. Re:Commercials by Seedy2 · · Score: 1

      Hmm, the Sirius channels I listen to mostly take requests.
      Of course I mostly listen to 80s & 90s alternative stuff.
      And I like the DJ interruptions that talk about the bands and the music.
      You're right about the interruption to change channels, though, bletch.

      I fear the same thing will happen to radio as happened to cable TV, all the so called commercial free channels will steadily start getting more and more interruptions and finally give over to outright commercials, maybe not commercials for toothpaste, cars, and tampons, but commercials nonetheless.

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    16. Re:Commercials by zero_offset · · Score: 1

      I don't mind hearing advertising with my music

      Hell, at least your stations play music. On the occasions I actually go to work, my drive-time FM airwaves are filled with mind-numbing morning talk-show garbage.

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    17. Re:Commercials by zero_offset · · Score: 1

      Try Sirius. It beats the hell out of XM. Unfortunately my current GM daily-driver has XM built-in, and frigging Directed appears to be holding off releasing their new GM-LAN-based Sirius converter, probably because of that god awful merger they keep threatening to fuck us with.

      But assuming you're not stuck with a built-in XM tuner, try Sirius. I bet you'll like it more, because your complaints are very similar to what I hate about XM.

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    18. Re:Commercials by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Will someone with modpoints rate this the Insightful that it deserves. I'd never realized this until now. Goes for television too, I suppose.

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    19. Re:Commercials by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      You bet, Cowboy. PRI is my radio of choice, and I'm a dollar-a-day club member. It's still cheap by comparison, when I figure in all the hours I'd otherwise spend listening to commercials for "virility enhancers" and sub-prime mortgages (yes, they're still pushing them!).

      Here in the great city of Chicago, my station is WBEZ. I'm not crazy about the fact that they've recently switched from jazz overnights to international news (although the news from Russia is pretty funny), but at least I've got someone to call and complain to and a little bit of leverage because I've got receipts for all the money I've given them over the years.

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  3. Awesome! by butterwise · · Score: 4, Funny

    At that scale, you can actually see the radio waves...

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    1. Re:Awesome! by pwnies · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is somewhat saddening that they have to put that disclaimer there that "The waves shown in this image were added for visual effect, and are not part of the original microscope image".

    2. Re:Awesome! by butterwise · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is almost more saddening that the waves are not going in the correct direction given the nanotube is a receiver, not a transmitter...

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  4. Public Perfromance by josephtd · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're they paying royalties to the RIAA? RIAA vs. NSF coming soon to a Federal Court near you.

    1. Re:Public Perfromance by aicrules · · Score: 1

      Barking up the wrong tree...they're going to be the next people sued here: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/01/1548248

    2. Re:Public Perfromance by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hear the summons will be written in xenon atoms on nickel.

  5. a Walkman for dust mites? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    What's next?

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    1. Re:a Walkman for dust mites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dust mice. Those little guys get everything >:(

  6. a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    the day mankind gave the gift of Howard Stern and American Top 40 and the traffic report to bacteria

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    1. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by Soko · · Score: 1, Funny

      the day mankind gave the gift of Howard Stern and American Top 40 and the traffic report to bacteria

      *blink*

      Gift? That list sounds like we're trying to find a new way to kill them.

      Soko

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    2. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      Yeah, first you have the femtosecond laser pulse to destroy viruses and now this.

    3. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that redundant?

    4. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by Spokehedz · · Score: 1

      Nonono... Howard left terrestrial radio a looong time ago.

      I know you don't get Sirius in Your Mom's Basement(TM) but just toss it out the window, k?

    5. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Nonono... Howard left terrestrial radio a looong time ago.

      I know you don't get Sirius in Your Mom's Basement(TM) but just toss it out the window, k?


      Since he's already left terrestrial radio, how long till we can get him to permanently leave Terra? :)
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    6. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by autophile · · Score: 1

      Given how small bacteria are, they've probably been vibrating to our radio waves for the past 100+ years. And they've been mutating ever since to get away!

      --Rob

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    7. Re:a "Mr. Watson. Come Here. I need you." moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now we have a reason for the 128-bit IPv6 address space. Every nanobot in your brain and body individually addressable over the Internet. What could possibly go wrong?

  7. We're gonna need by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're gonna need a bigger tin-foil hat.

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    1. Re:We're gonna need by richlv · · Score: 1

      nah, riaa will get them

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    2. Re:We're gonna need by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

      Nah don't bother, they could put MILLIONS of these radios per square foot of tinfoil and you wouldn't even notice. Heck they could put these in your food, water, etc... Sorry, didn't mean to add to the paranoia.

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    3. Re:We're gonna need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, what you need is a tin-foil hat covered in carbon nanotubes.

    4. Re:We're gonna need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This vindicates me. I have always known about the secret government mind-control broadcasts, which come to me through my hair! Now that I'm sure of this, I've shaved my head and plan to force all my neighbors to shave theirs too. Even if I have to do it at gunpoint. I'll start my liberation of mankind as soon as I go to WalMart and buy a shotgun, a chainsaw, and some hairclippers. You! Yes, you! Come here...

    5. Re:We're gonna need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or a denser one

    6. Re:We're gonna need by eonlabs · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're going to need... Many smaller ones

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    7. Re:We're gonna need by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      We're going to need... Many smaller ones

      Full body one, I'm thinking.

      Or do as this bloke does

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  8. They're going to make a fortune... by pwnies · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...on people losing these things. "Damnit, where's my radio? Did I lose it again!? Oh wait here it is... no... that's pocket lint."

    1. Re:They're going to make a fortune... by Larry_The_Canary · · Score: 1

      I can already hear the late night infomercials

      - ...if you buy a brand new carbon nanotube radio for the low, low, cost of only $1337.69 in the next 15 minutes we'll throw in a powerful electron microscope for the amazing price of only ten thousand dollars! With this puppy you'll never again mistake a spec on the floor for your radio. This one of a kind deal won't last for long so buy..............right now!!!!!!11!!!!!one!!!one!!!eleven!!!

  9. Science press releases: God's gift to surrealism by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

    Returning to Zettl's runner analogy, the vibrating nanotube is akin to a ditch with a constantly changing width.


    I really do love the analogies we use to describe quantum-mechanical or relativistic behavior. Even the best ones start off comprehensible but rapidly morph into the deranged land of our most cheese-fuelled nightmares.
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  10. In other news... by EvilSpudBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perfoming rights organizations, BMI and ASCAP, want a fee for every carbon nanotube sold.

  11. Journal abstract and Project page by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Their project page has videos, simulations, and audio playback samples: NSF Nanotube Radio

    Here is their journal abstract:

    "We have constructed a fully functional, fully integrated radio receiver from a single carbon nanotube. The nanotube serves simultaneously as all essential components of a radio: antenna, tunable band-pass filter, amplifier, and demodulator. A direct current voltage source, as supplied by a battery, powers the radio. Using carrier waves in the commercially relevant 40-400 MHz range and both frequency and amplitude modulation techniques, we demonstrate successful music and voice reception."

    1. Re:Journal abstract and Project page by kebes · · Score: 1
      Some details, from the scientific article, about how it functions:

      Amazingly, all four critical radio receiver components can be simultaneously implemented with a single carbon nanotube. ... the entire radio consists of an individual carbon nanotube mounted to an electrode in close proximity to a counter electrode. A direct current (dc) voltage source, such as from a battery, is connected to the electrodes and powers the radio. Important for the radio's operation, the applied dc bias negatively charges the tip of the nanotube, sensitizing it to oscillating electric fields.
      They describe how the operation of their system is quite different from conventional radios, since the nanotube become mechanically coupled (and physically vibrates) in response to the radio waves:

      electromagnetic waves from an incoming radio transmission impinge upon the nanotube forcing it to physically vibrate through their action on the charged tip. These vibrations are only significant when the frequency of the incoming wave coincides with the nanotube's flexural resonance frequency.
      The reception is thus due to mechanical coupling, and demodulation occurs via field emission:

      Mechanical vibrations of the nanotube modulate the field-emission current,[10] which then serves as the easily detected electrical signal. Because the battery voltage source, rather than the incoming electromagnetic wave, powers the field-emission current, amplification of the radio signal is possible. Also, due to nonlinearities inherent in field-emission, demodulation of the radio signal occurs as well.
      They also show that the resonant frequency of the nanotube can be altered. Coarsely, it can be tuned based on the length of the nanotube, and fine adjustments can be made by altering the bias voltage. One could imagine that in a real device, one would have an array of tubes of different lengths if one needed to cover a wide frequency range. (Other experiments on multi-wall nanotubes have actually shown that you can extend/retract the lengths of such assemblies, so perhaps one could design a device whose antenna has variable length hence variable mechanical properties.)

      Although one can immediately imagine using such nano-antennas in order to send commands to nano-bots and so forth, it's worth mentioning that the present experiment required the nanotube antenna to be in a vacuum. Still, having a small evacuated (radio transparent) container for the nanotube wouldn't make it much larger.
    2. Re:Journal abstract and Project page by jdray · · Score: 1

      Mechanical vibrations of the nanotube modulate the field-emission current,[10] which then serves as the easily detected electrical signal.

      So, it's acting a lot like a stylus on a phonograph? Vinyl is back!

      Your suggestion that a nano-radio be enclosed in, essentially, a vacuum bottle, is interesting. Such a bottle would make a nice delivery package, helping to componentize the device for inclusion in larger constructs.

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    3. Re:Journal abstract and Project page by AySz88 · · Score: 1
      From http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~argon/nanoradio/radio.html:

      Layla by Eric Clapton (Derek & the Dominos) was the first song played on the nanotube radio. The entire received song may be downloaded below. Oh, no! Quick, save all the content before the cease-and-desist letter!
  12. How do I tune in to another station!! by The+Assistant · · Score: 2, Funny

    The radio is a single carbon nanotube, right?

    It must be real difficult reading the display (or dial) to see what station you're tuned in to!!!! ;)

    1. Re:How do I tune in to another station!! by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1

      The REAL problem is the batteries. Bacteria found out they can get high eating them. So all they want to do now is listen to music on their iNanoNano and breed.

  13. Up next for the NSF researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A nanotube version of the worlds smallest violin.

    1. Re:Up next for the NSF researchers by securityfolk · · Score: 1
      Too late, it has already been done:

      http://www.lutherie.net/nano_gtr.html

      Cheers!

  14. "the waves shown in this image were added" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The waves shown in this image were added for visual effect, and are not part of the original microscope image"

    I'm glad they finally explained that at the bottom because I started checking if it was April fools or a parody site or something like that.

    I guess it wasn't dramatic enough as is for the general public to get excited.

  15. I can just wait by Joseph1337 · · Score: 2, Funny

    When the internet will be upped from normal tubes to nanotubes. Web 2.0 IS COMING!

  16. I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...if these can be used in dentistry, as tooth fillings.

  17. Who cares! by Funkcikle · · Score: 2, Funny

    No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

  18. The Tubes by lobStar · · Score: 1

    Now there will be great confusion about what "listening on radio over the Tubes" mean...

  19. Don't laugh. by AltGrendel · · Score: 1
    The transmitter is next. I can see it now. Dust the crowd with nano-tube transmitters and follow them around with the that Black Van.

    You know the Black Van that I mean, the one with the black tinted windows and a vanity plate on the front that says "Fearmobile".

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    1. Re:Don't laugh. by somersault · · Score: 1

      Isn't that the van that the a-team made out of carbon nanotubes and some duct tape?

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    2. Re:Don't laugh. by P3NIS_CLEAVER · · Score: 1

      or how about the replacement of metal interconnects in microprocessors with nanotube transmitter/reciever pairs!

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    3. Re:Don't laugh. by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 0

      Hold on, I got a delivery at the door looks like Flowers By Irene. Be right back.

    4. Re:Don't laugh. by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Isn't that the van that the a-team made out of carbon nanotubes and some duct tape?


      You're a bit mixed up.

      McGyver made a van out of carbon nanotubes and duct tape.

      The A-Team used carbon nanotubes and a welding torch.
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  20. Was that content licensed? by corporatemutantninja · · Score: 1

    Wait...they broadcast Layla and Good Vibrations and admitted it publicly? Expect to hear from RIAA lawyers soon...

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    1. Re:Was that content licensed? by crgrace · · Score: 1

      They demodulated a latent transmission. They didn't transmit anything.

  21. Worker of the Week award goes to.... by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....Inanimate Carbon Rod!

    I can't believe we've overlooked this week's winner for so very, very long.

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  22. Steve just called .... by BenBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... I'm afraid "nano" is trademarked for audio devices ... please cease and desist in the use of this term in this connection ...

  23. That new Britney song really got in my head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, it crossed my blood-brain barrier.

    Thanks for the glioblastoma, slut.

  24. this reminds me... by freg · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is actually smaller than the iPod Zepto: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2005/11/28fitch.html

    1. Re:this reminds me... by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 0

      Sure, the receiver is small...but how big is the pickup/amplifier?

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    2. Re:this reminds me... by volsung · · Score: 1

      The iFlea is even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvPj22jANDw

  25. And how much of that by RealProgrammer · · Score: 1

    will go to the figurehead artists, who put their name to some words and then drive their hybrid SUVs to their red carpet galas, leaving the poor, starving attorneys, accountants, and publicists to do the real work -- the licensing?

    It's time to make a stand. We at the firm of Leech, Suxxor & Scabb are taking up the cause of starving parasuits everywhere.

    We just want what's right.

    We just want what's fair.

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    1. Re:And how much of that by saider · · Score: 2, Funny

      I prefer the litigation services of Dewey, Cheatum, & Howe.

      nyuk, nyuk

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    2. Re:And how much of that by jdray · · Score: 1

      Or Hooke, Swindell and Crouch.

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  26. It's bullshit, of course by originalnih · · Score: 0

    Goddamn Horton Hears A Who viral marketing!

  27. transmitter by phrostie · · Score: 1

    so how big is the transmitter?

    1. Re:transmitter by crgrace · · Score: 1

      There is no nanotube transmitter. The length of the transmitting antenna must be on the order of the wavelength of the transmitted wave AND a large amount of power needs to be sent into the air.

      This article, of course, is a cool stunt... but it is still a stunt.

  28. Tubes vs. Transistors by chiph · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, do nano-scale carbon tubes sound better than transistors?
    Or, only if you use oxygen-free silver interconnects the size of a garden hose?

    Chip H.

    1. Re:Tubes vs. Transistors by Alsee · · Score: 1

      oxygen-free silver interconnects the size of a garden hose?

      Only if you have a very small garden.

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    2. Re:Tubes vs. Transistors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dang, you beat me to it. And here I was going to ask if it used the standard 6.3V filament voltage and had the standard 11-second warmup time.

    3. Re:Tubes vs. Transistors by murderlegendre · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to go too far OT with this, but.. there is much more to the "tubes vs. transistors" thing, than the sonic performance of a given tube vs. a given transistor. This is one area where the /. membership is willfully ignorant..

      Spend a little time learning about the design differences between complete tube and transistor circuits, and you'll soon discover that tube circuits allow the designer to select passive components which offer greater sonic advantage than the passive components populating a typical transistor circuit. Here are a couple of clues to get you started: high impedances, low current densities.

      Even if all tubes sounded exactly the same as all transistors (which they do not, this is objective fact) the tube-based circuits would still offer design advantages.

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  29. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

    rapidly morph into the deranged land of our most cheese-fuelled nightmares

    Now *that's* an interesting phobia.

  30. Sorry, but by darjen · · Score: 1

    Is that a nanotube radio in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

    (Sorry, just had to...)

    1. Re:Sorry, but by celle · · Score: 1
      "Is that a nanotube radio in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"

      It's a nanotube! How could you tell if he's happy or not? Maybe it's just embarrassment.

  31. Note: Should say "Berkeley" researchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NSF funded the center, but the affiliation of the scientists is with Berkeley. NSF doesn't directly hire "researchers".

  32. I'm waiting until after Christmas by wsanders · · Score: 1
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  33. finally by Bota · · Score: 0

    a receiver for radio that fits in my pores... you have no idea how long ive been waiting for this. Now we just have to wait to buy a thimble full of nano headphones to dump into our inner ear and we'll be set to listen to all the advertising and rush limbaugh the human mind can take.

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    1. Re:finally by peragrin · · Score: 1

      no but subdermal gps receivers would be possible. Include a small tranmitter, and you can literally get tracked by eating something.

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    2. Re:finally by boyfaceddog · · Score: 1

      Apparently you've never been to a Taco Bell.

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  34. Hail! by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 1

    All hail the inanimate carbon rod^H^H^Hnanotube!

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  35. Much More Comfortable! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new technology should lead to much easy and more comfortable forms of smuggling information and radios for spies everywhere. Very useful for number stations... from Good Vibrations to the Lincolnshire Poacher.

  36. As long as they're playing Oldies on the tube... by anandamide · · Score: 1

    'Tiny Dancer' would have been a more logical choice.

  37. Going full circle by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the 19th century they had pocket watches. Then watches got small enough to strap on your wrist. Then we got cell phones, threw away our wristwatches and put the phone in a pocket.

    In the 19 century we had vacuum tubes. In the mid 20th century these were replaced by semiconductors, which were smaller and less bulky. Now we're back to tubes again, and the TFA sounds like these are kind of nano vacuum tubes, only without the vacuum.

    The nanotube radio is likely like these geek toys nerds have been building since the early 1900s. All you need to build one is a diode, some wire, a piece of wood, and headphones to listen to it with. They used to call these things "catwhisker radios", the "cat whisker" being the diode.

    -mcgrew

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    1. Re:Going full circle by compro01 · · Score: 1

      the catwhisker part comes from the pre-diode designs, like this. the catwhisker is the wire that connects to the detector crystal, which did form a diode

      i actually have such a thing at home that i made when i was 10, using a piece of iron pyrite as the detector.

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    2. Re:Going full circle by Radon360 · · Score: 1

      Looking at it, I was thinking something similar. However, it's more akin to a single transistor radio than a simple crystal set. There's external power being provided, which is used for amplification. I'm willing to bet that the power leads are functioning more as the antenna than the nanotube is, especially at the frequencies they describe. They've essentially come up with a nanotube acting as a specialized transistor that resonates at specific frequencies and detects (demodulates) and amplifies the demodulated signal through its transistor-like properties.

      They make it sound more exciting than it really is once you look at what is technically going on.

    3. Re:Going full circle by bitrex · · Score: 1

      Researchers have constructed the equivalent of the old vacuum tube triode using carbon nanotubes. I haven't read the entire paper on the nanotube radio so I don't know if this is how they went about it, but a simple nanotube diode could detect and demodulate a radio signal but not amplify. Using a single nanotube triode one might be able to construct a nanoscale version of a regenerative reciever.

  38. Why? by pitchpipe · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why are we regressing back to 'tube radios?

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  39. Voices in My Head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spooks playing God/Allah/Jehovah/*.

  40. Now Hiring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now hiring: Nano orphan children to sew nano radio covers and cases. Must have previous sweat shop experience.

  41. Apple products... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple would still charge $299 for the device and claim its all in the development.

    Apple's stock would then jump 800% and people might finally realize that they are getting charged for nothing but bit shifting.

    And it would still only have one button.

  42. Yes... by Dr.+Smoove · · Score: 1

    If I only could +1 for the choice of music...

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  43. first thought... by Roskolnikov · · Score: 1

    OK,

    Your radio is nice, but can it transmit? imagine a world where the NSA sprinkles a little 'dust'
    comprised of low wattage radios designed to link up, point to point they should cover the distance between all those
    being listened to and those doing the listening.

    paranoid? you bet.

    the land that was free, the home of the braves.

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  44. The response from patent trolls by Prototerm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Several patent trolls have threatened to sue, claiming the work violates over 200 of their top-secret patents ("Just because the device functions on a quantum scale is not enough to avoid licensing costs" one source was quoted.) The trolls have claimed that research like this, if allowed to continue, will stifle true innovation by their exclusive licensees.

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    1. Re:The response from patent trolls by bograt · · Score: 1

      You hear that sound, patent trolls? That's a recording of the world's smallest violin, playing on the world's smallest radio. Just for you.

  45. HD Nanotube? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but Sheriff John Brunell says that if you buy the HD carbon nanotube for a bit more, you can get extra stations between the stations!

    1. Re:HD Nanotube? by mapsjanhere · · Score: 1

      Sorry, the station search button on the Inanotube is just too small to make this an attractive competitor to the Ipod nano

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  46. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    Ah, where I come from it's assumed that if you eat a lot of cheese at night, you will have vivid dreams.

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  47. Home Simpson's reaction: by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    "Single carbon nanotube, is there nothing that you can't do?"

    myke

  48. The bright side of nanotech: by megaditto · · Score: 1

    I will finally be able to tune into Air America with my penis.

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  49. are those sound waves... by wattrlz · · Score: 1

    They appear to be leaving the nanotube, which, being a radio, has a tendency to absorb radio waves and make sound.

  50. Interesting idea, but... by jbarr · · Score: 1

    "a single carbon nanotube to perform all the functions of a standard radio, acting as an antenna, tunable filter, amplifier, and demodulator.
    ...the damned presets are just too darn small for me to push.
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  51. Low res picture for those using lower bandwidths. by east+coast · · Score: 2, Funny

    . --Radio

    (Shown larger than actual size)

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  52. Good news for Apple by mblase · · Score: 1

    At last, they no longer have an excuse for not including an FM radio in the iPod.

  53. We're doing them a service by complaining by spun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Think about it, if we just turned the channel, they'd have no idea why. By publicly complaining about their service, we give them an opportunity to change their business model to one that more people find valuable. That's the way a free market democracy is supposed to work.

    It sounds like you want a fascist system where we all have to take what we are given by our corporate masters, and no one has a right to complain about poor service. Tell you what, you go live in a system like that, I'll stay here in America where I still have some shred of rights to free speech.

    Love your hypocritical double standard, by the way. We can't complain about corporate radio, but you get to complain about our complaints. Hey, no one is forcing you to read Slashdot, why don't you just leave if you don't like the opinions here?

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  54. and afterwards ..... by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    The source content for the first laboratory test of the radio was "Layla," by Derek and the Dominos, followed soon after by "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys.
    A few seconds after which, a SWAT team stormed the lab demanding royalty payments .....
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  55. One step forward, two step back... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1
    From TFA: The new device works in a manner more similar to the vacuum tubes from the 1930s than the transistors found in modern radios.

    Great. Radios will also now be a system of tubes. :-)

    Seriously, the only problem seems to be that the radio only receives radio signals from the 1930s.

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  56. Great new CowboyNeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can now listen to the radio out your dick!

  57. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    It's true. Cheese contains tyramine, which is a neurotransmitter analogue and an extremely mild hallucinogen -- so mild, in fact, that its effects are only noticeable if you are already asleep and dreaming.

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  58. Now... by dlelash · · Score: 1

    ... there's NO excuse for Steve Jobs not to put a radio in the next iPods!

  59. It's 1950's technology, and it's NOT a radio! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reading more closely, we discover that:

    It's not really a complete radio...It's just a tiny tuning fork.
    Demos like these make me ask: what the hell happened to research in America?

    They left out the fact that they were using a specially tuned PWM transmitter... and a high powered one at that... to vibrate the .6 cm nanotube structure.

    They left out (as well) the fact that they were using another specially tuned receiver to detect the movement and turn it back into audio.

    They could have done the same thing with almost any material, including a grain of salt, a slice of stale pizza or a drop of water. This is essentially the same as attaching an earphone to a crystal, and then tuning the transmitter to the crystal and making it vibrate by hitting it with a high powered modulated wave. I guess it's cool that they got a huge nsf grant to recreate an incomplete crystal radio.

    Using an external process to convert the vibration back into audio is cool and all, but I wish I could win big grants for such elementary application of well-known processes. Hey, maybe I could bounce a laser-beam off the carbon nano-tube and call it a "secure" nano-communications device! Who wants to help me write the NSF research request?

    A rerun of the hype surrounding MIT's shocking rediscovery of tesla's magic coil trick.
    I predict an NSF funded rebirth of spark gap transmitters.

    1. Re:It's 1950's technology, and it's NOT a radio! by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      I agree.

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    2. Re:It's 1950's technology, and it's NOT a radio! by pez4realz · · Score: 1

      Why did you have to crash the microscopic organism's party like that, man? I swear, you ALWAYS do this. Now you know why Brock doesn't ask you to come with us anymore.

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    3. Re:It's 1950's technology, and it's NOT a radio! by himself · · Score: 1

      We need a new moderation tag, "-3 Killjoy." Damn you and your facts!!!!

  60. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    My curiosity piqued, I looked up more info on Wikipedia (I know not the best but good enough for the purpose) and saw no mention of hallucinogenic properties but a definate connection to headaches.

    Do you have another reference?

    It would go a long way to explaining last night's truly random dreams. (Cheese and crackers just before bedtime, I was peckish)

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  61. I can do better! by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    This single wire in my braces picks up Bob Rivers in the mornings! Must be tuned to 102.5 FM or something.

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  62. Researchers at the National Science Foundation? by bromoseltzer · · Score: 1
    While the NSF may want credit, they are mainly a funding organization without any actual research staff. The work was done at the Center of Integrated Nanomechanical Systems, which is hosted by UC Berkeley. The work was done by people at UCB and LBNL.

    A great job of PR! Hopefully, there is really something to it. At the moment, it seems that they have set up a million dollars of high vacuum cryo equipment (I'm guessing) and transmitted audio from one side of the room to the other. You can "rent" web access to their paper for two days for $25 from the ACS. So much for taxpayer-funded open source literature...

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  63. isn't this just a diode receiver ? by cats-paw · · Score: 1

    As you may well know a single diode and an RC makes a perfectly good AM radio and that's what it looks like this nanotube is acting like.

    So I'm going to go with... meh.

    Single chip receivers are already cheap and easy all the way through 6GHz. I'm not really sure that this really advances the state of the art. It certainly doesn't help for Wifi systems. It's the support circuitry like RSSI and AGC which eat up a lot of the real-estate. The amp and mixer are typically less than a dozen transistors, or maybe two -dozen.

    Also, without gain, which this thing almost certainly does not have, it's basically acting like a resonator, it's going to be a really lousy receiver. Of course it might have gain if it operates in a way which gives it negative resistance, which is possible.

    Looks like the usual attention getting press release. Gotta let people know what you are doing with all of that research money.

    double meh...

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  64. Is it AM or FM? by ThirdPrize · · Score: 1

    Just curious.

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  65. hm by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

    I skimmed TFA, and maybe I missed it- how are they getting the audio? Are they sure that the wire to get the audio out isn't acting as the antenna or somesuch? It seems awfully odd to me that this litte tiny thing can not only pick up a 1+ meter long wave -and- hook up to something. It seems hard to believe that the interface isn't the thing doing some of the work.

  66. Actually it'll probably be the other way round... by atrocious+cowpat · · Score: 1

    ... you poke around in your bellly button. What do you find? Radios. Scratch behind your ear... Radios. Empty the hoover bag... tons of Radios. Ack - what's that in my eye? Oh, damn Radios again. Dang, have to clean my windows again: Radios all over it.

    C.f. (e.g.) Neal Stephenson's "The Diamond Age" ... Stephenson calls them "Toner", and we're not quite as far (yet; they can't move or navigate by themselves), but I'm not holding my breath.

    But I fear I might have to, in the not-quite-so-far future.

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  67. Finally by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

    A radio built at a scale appropriate to the amount of worthwhile content on the airwaves.

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  68. politics in science... by Goldsmith · · Score: 1
    There was a paper on the same subject, which was published online by the same journal a few weeks beforehand...


    Looking at the dates detailed in the paper from Peter Burke's group, you can see that it was submitted in June and finished in September, while the paper from Alex Zettl's group was submitted in August and finished in October. Yet... neither of the articles has actually been published yet (they're both available online as pre-prints), and the press release only mentions the second paper.


    Zettl's radio looks better in the lab (requires moving parts and a vacuum chamber), but Burke's getting a raw deal here.

  69. Old friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went to highschool with the lead author of this paper. We played TI-82 chess during junior Physics class. Yeah, you guessed it...he kicked my ass.

  70. Discovery comes just in time... by DumbSwede · · Score: 1

    Officials are quoted as saying the miniaturized RF technology would allow manufactures to finally progress from making cell phones to making mitochondria phones.

  71. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by eonlabs · · Score: 1

    http://www.dresdencodak.com/cartoons/dc_014.htm

    There are always more ways to make it worse...

    If a single nanotube can act as a complete radio, and buckyballs exist in cells, could an
    organism evolve radios?

    Could it be possible for a new animal or plant to be able to listen in on the data sent via radio?

    or maybe a better question:
    how hard of a fall could it take before snapping?

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  72. Re:Science press releases: God's gift to surrealis by kestasjk · · Score: 1

    It's pretty common knowledge where I come from. It did seem a little strange when someone told me why they were refusing cheese so late, it looks so harmless but it causes nightmares!

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  73. Clearly, you're misinformed by PhysSurfer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your tuning fork analogy is valid, but you need to remember that it is a nanometer sized tuning fork that vibrates in response to EM waves, not sound waves, and serves as a field emitter. Good luck doing that with any other material. In addition, they were not using a "specially" tuned receiver to pick up the movement - the movement is detected through the resulting modulation of the Field Emission Current, which is especially sensitive to the location of the end of the nanotube. The only tuning involved is through a DC field that changes the tension on the nanotube, which in turn changes its resonant frequency. This is a good thing, because it means you can change the channel on the resulting radio. It's novel and exciting research because the "tuning fork" is on the nanometer scale. Mounting the nanotube in the TEM and observing its vibration is hardly trivial.

  74. All hail the inanimate carbon rod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In rod we trust!

  75. Oh nanotubes is there anything you can't do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like every few weeks I hear about how carbon nanotubes are doing something new and exciting.

    I for one eagerly await the headline "Carbon Nanotubes cure cancer, bring about world peace, and solve erectile dysfunction."

  76. RIAA by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    So, has the RIAA filed a copyright infringement lawsuit yet?

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  77. and the next song ... by NynexNinja · · Score: 1

    was followed by "Every Breath You Take" by The Police.... "Every step you take ... I'll be watching you..."

  78. Does it have ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... a bass speaker capable of rattling the windows on the car next to me?

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  79. One nanotube isn't enough by mbstone · · Score: 1

    I want a model with 9 or 12 or 15 nanotubes, with the number of nanotubes prominently inscribed on the front of the unit. Something you could hold in your hand, with an earphone, something you could take to the ballgame.

  80. The Gift... by jdickey · · Score: 0

    ...to the bacteria has been returned with a note attached: "Dear humans: If you insult our intelligence again, we'll stop helping you digest for a month or two. If this is indicative of your average intelligence, the world will be a better place with the cockroaches."

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming -- Beavis and Butt-head in "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are (heh-heh) like, dead, man!"

  81. How to sell a product by Gynvael+Coldwind · · Score: 1

    How to sell a product (for example - car) ? Add a brand-new nanotube on top and advertise it as "smallest one-nanotube car!!!*" * the nanotube acts only as a nanotube, it requires an actual car to run

  82. Re:Gir by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just lost this game

  83. Fermi's Paradox by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    Now we know the answer to Fermi's Paradox, or why we're not being bombarded with radio waves from civilizations more advanced then us:

    The researchers believe it would be easy to produce such nanotube radios for receiving signals in the 40-400 megahertz range, a range within which most FM radio broadcasts fall.

    ...

    Adds Bruce Kramer, "The application of a fully functioning radio receiver less than 50 millionths of an inch in length and one millionth of an inch in diameter potentially allows the radio control of almost anything, from a single receiver in a living cell to a vast array embedded in an airplane wing."

    It appears that high-powered radio waves are banned in advanced civilizations because they are used for ultra-short-range communications. The question to ask is how long will it be until an advanced civilization comes to us and tells us to "shut the fsck up" because our radio waves are too d@mn loud.