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China's President Hu Talks IT Warfare
narramissic writes "In his keynote speech at the Communist Party Congress in October China's president Hu Jintao was specific in his references to one area of IT: defense. 'We must build strong armed forces through science and technology. To attain the strategic objective of building computerized armed forces and winning IT-based warfare, we will accelerate composite development of mechanization and computerization, carry out military training under IT-based conditions, modernize every aspect of logistics, intensify our efforts to train a new type of high-caliber military personnel in large numbers and change the mode of generating combat capabilities.'"
China's got a premier who was a hydraulic engineer and can even know and understand words like logistics.
India's got a prime minister who is an economist and was the head honcho of the finance ministry.
Wonder if Bush even understands the word logistics.
Anyone else read this as talking about NCW (net centric warfare) and not cyberattacks?
It means the US will be putting tighter restrictions on the export of software and networking equipment. Count on it!
A good thing actually. I don't want any US corporation aiding the CCP's censorship goals/objectives.
Life is not for the lazy.
There have been a number of projects that I have worked on in IT with Chinese consultants based in China. The shocking (and most often shocking) revelation I have had is the persistance for step by step instructions to almost everything. I sometimes find myself wondering what it is exactly (other than a recently over-changed government policy that now embraces MS) they actually utilize, but more importantly contribute, the usefulness of OSS because of the amount of outside thinking and experimentation that is needed to become comfortable using such systems.
Anecdote is this: China constultants assists in co-coding a massive project that involves originally western-sourced code. Upon being provided an API and an approach-based guidline to expand on the source, they insist on step by step instructions and 'scripts' for things as simple as using a copy command. Now being well-versed in J2EE projects, I would expect more than 'step 72 gives this error, everything is broke'. Eventually when you find out that step 72 broke because the pre-requisites and steps 13-20 were ommitted, you can't help but wonder how to teach the taught, 'thought' and encouraging different approaches to a solution.
Truth is realized, not told...
The Republic of China is under a persistent threat of a (Mainland) Chinese attack. United States has long ago promised to defend them, so we have to listen carefully (and take notes!), when the current rival — and an unlikely-but-possible future enemy — talks about any kind of war.
Sooner or later China may also decide to begin solving its (over)population issues by expanding into Siberia, whose population density was always far smaller (orders of magnitude smaller) than China's and is now shrinking dramatically. In 10-30 years China will either be purchasing or conquering that land from Russia — if there are any Russians left to notice that is...
Then, of course, there is a long-simmering tension with India, which has resulted in an all-out war as recently as in 1962. And then there is Vietnam, which lost a piece of territory to China, who invaded to, pretty much, punish it for interfering with the Khmere Rouge earlier — a "family dispute" among the Communist thugs.
And last, although not necessarily least, is the continuing (and officially regulated) hatred towards Japan — "justified" or not, it may well escalate into an armed conflict in a decade or two, when an internal crisis inside China may lead its leaders to seek an external war to unify the country. It may be harder for its neighbors to repel, than it was to deal with the desperate Argentinian regime in a similar situation...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
An electronic Pearl Harbor? I know all asians look alike to caucasians, but it's China we should worry about, not Japan. It's more of an electic Boxer Rebellion.
Sorry, couldn't resist. It's nice to know the CIA is apparently paying attention. A random question to anyone: how much traffic enters/leaves the US a second? Just how big of a MOAF (mother of all firewalls) would the government need to prevent increased latency(not that this would be a government concern of course)?
Pedestrian Detection from a Moving Vehicle
... has published over 200 books, book chapters, journal papers, conference proceedings and technical reports in mechanics, intelligent control, robotics and automation. Currently, Dr. Wang is the Secretary-Elect of the IEEE Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Council, members of the ExCom and AdCom of IEEE ITS Council and IEEE Systems, Man, and Cybernetics (SMC) Society, associate editors of the IEEE Transactions on Robotics and Automation, SMC, and ITS, and the Editor-in-Charge of the World Scientific Series on Intelligent Control and Intelligent Automation.") particular one.
=identifying targets from a vehicle
I am not paranoid about 'a Chinese person', but about the ubiquitous presence of this (context:
"The Chinese themselves don't think they're getting much of the advanced technology. While Americans have complained in the last year about their jobless economic recovery, Chinese have bemoaned what they call a "headless" or "brainless" boom, said panelist Fei-Yue Wang, a University of Arizona specialist on intelligent transportation, who has been involved in the Chinese government's long-term technology planning."
http://spectrum.ieee.org/print/4040
If you look a little further at his publication history (a part of it), you might suspect dual-use research. Add experience with 'communist academic careers' (the 'German Democratic Republic' collapsed while I was working at a University here (formerly West)) and you know that you only make it if you are opportunistic. And then you perhaps wonder how he manages to co-author in such a broad variety of areas - coordinating for a more global target?
YMMV.
CC.
TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
but from where I am sitting, they're not invading and killing as much.
From where I am sitting, it's pretty obvious that China already did all that stuff. Now they've got their troops planted all over places like Tibet and Inner Mongolia, so while the dust has settled, enough of us remember to know a 'bad guy.'
Freedom isn't 'absolute' because you have to cite a fricking context for the word to mean anything at all. You can say that 'dark isn't absolute' and make just as strong an argument.
The Chinese are building their own supercomputers:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/30/middle-kingdom-ready-bust-flops
So maybe they won't need hackers but better programs and computers? It is easier to start an IT war with more servers and other techniques.
I wonder if India is doing the same? If they are I wonder what countries will they IT attack? Pakistan? Maybe the Indians will sell out to the highest bidder, since they have no loyalty to US or China...
You can't solve everything with brute force either .
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That's why we waited for 12 years and through 19 UN resolutions before going into Iraq. We tried every option conceivable before using overwhelming force, including the use of limited force. Nothing worked. I guess it didn't matter as some people think that force is absolutely never the answer. These are the people that would rather learn German see the rest of Jews sent to the showers than to actually go to war.
Same thing is happening in Iran today.
Those people are used to strong leaders . So it is likely that any democracy you install will eventually degrade into a dictatorship. Granted , it will be one that supports the US , but it's still no benefit to the people
and one that won't invade its neighbors, at least. Still, we have to try.
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Because little ol' Iran is such a huge threat to the colossal USA...
I guess that is the difference between my country and wherever you are from. We will fight to defend those that can not defend themselves. We don't just think of ourselves. We believe that human rights come from God, not man and it is our duty to see that the people of the world are given the chance. We are not content to stand idly by as millions of innocents get slaughtered (Rwanda, Darfur) where as the UN, the organization mean to stop countries like Iran from developing nuclear weapons and was created to stop genocide can do little more than write a strongly worded letter.
USA, who, I might add, has the most history of nuclear weapons abuse in the history of mankind.
Uh, we dropped two bombs on a country that was throughly defeated, but refused to surrender. Dropping those two bombs (what you call abuse), while horrific to the peoples of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, saved the lives of millions who would have suffered through the relentless bombing. All of Japan would have looked like Berlin at the end of WWII. So, what you call "abuse" actually saved cities like Tokyo. For that matter, there were parts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki unscathed by the attacks. Places like Dresden did not fare so well. Because of those two bombs, Japan came out of WWII a lot better than Germany. Or do you think a relentless carpet bombing, a naval blockade that would starve the Japanese citizens, and a continuation of the bloody island hopping campaign leading up to another Omaha Beach in Japan would have been better for both sides? Sorry, but saying we "abused" nuclear weapons is WWII is like saying we "abused" the aircraft carrier.
But why am I trying to convince you? The USA gives more to feed the poor around the world than all other nations combined. We liberate populations where people like you want sanctions that starve those same people. You have such a difficult time convincing yourself that you are right, you have to rewrite history to make those that you have unfounded hatred for into the most evil of peoples to justify your rage. You will stand up for a country that hangs suspected homosexuals, condones and even encourages wife beating, forces complete submission of women as a federal law, openly supports terrorists and has threatened multiple times to use nuclear weapons to destroy a country that has never attacked it. All while fighting against a country that has human rights as its foundation and equal rights written into its most sacred laws, that feeds the world and fights to spread freedom beyond its borders. And you don't see anything wrong with what you do.
The US gives the land its soldiers bleed and die for back to the people who live there rather than making it a conquered territory. Has any other country ever done that?
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