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Hans Reiser Interview on ABC's 20/20
baegucb_18706 noted that ABCs 20/20 has a lengthy article on the saga of the Hans Reiser murder trial. I'm not sure if this article provided any information that you might not have known if you read the earlier wired interview, but it's still a really strange story.
Interviewing Hans Reiser about the Hans Resier murder, eh? Clever.
How about interviewing Harry Buttle about that known terrorist Harry Tuttle?
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She hated him. She staged it and went back to Russia. Aren't their kids over there now? Go interrogate her parents...she can't be too far from them.
"Hans Reiser, left, and his attorney, William Dubois"
I think the pic caption is wrong - isn't that Hans on the right side?
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Alan Turing murdered himself (or perhaps he was poisoned).
Is he known as a murderer or the father of computer science?...I forget.
Reiser, whose work kept him overseas in Russia for months at a time, wanted more children and did not want Nina returning to work as a doctor.
"I ran the business and I expected my wife to take care of the kids," he said.
Wow. Wotta guy. Let's see, I want to marry an intelligent, highly educated doctor and then turn her into a brood mare who stays in the kitchen making cookies. Yeah, that'll work.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
In a reasonable system there is no way somebody can be convicted of murder without a body.
So Reiser's best friend had sex with Reiser's wife, confessed to the cops that he is a serial killer, but conveniently says he didn't kill Nina...and yet the cops don't arrest him. Sounds like we got the smart ones on that force.
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For several years prior to his wife's disappearance, he's been very strapped for money. He basically bankrupted himself to keep paying the russian programmers who were working on the reiser4 file system. His wife or friend may or may not have been involved in his money problems.
I know. Meg Ryan was the real genius.
I RTFA: This just doesn't add up. Why did the children get sent to Russia?!? I assume that Hans is capable of taking care of them, how did the kid's grand parents get custody of their natural father is still alive and kicking? The kids were growing up here and how they were transplanted to a culture remarkably different?
I don't believe that Hans showing up at the school to see the kids and give them a telephone number is 'suspect'..like come on. Did Nina orchestrate these events? Or was Hans so upset about her decision for divorce once she became a US citizen, and that she screwed his best friend, that he had to kill her?
Seems to me like Nina took off for the homeland, and has her kids there too. Hans is left holding the bag...
Now I probably won't get updates for my ReiserFS....damnit.
Do you have stats to back that up, or are you living your life based on what you've seen on television?
I've carried large sums of cash and my passport. Does that make me a murderer on the run?
It's completely circumstantial evidence.
But, if you put enough pieces together, circumstantial evidence can be damning in front of a jury, regardless if the truth is there or not.
From what I've seen, there are several ways it could have gone.
1) He killed her (the presumption of law enforcement)
2) Her new boyfriend, the drug and kinky sex fiend, killed her.
3) She's a sex slave, living in a crack house somewhere in the less friendly neighborhoods of any major US city.
4) She left town, and is living somewhere else in America or Canada.
5) She left the country, possibly for Russia.
As someone else said, they don't believe she could be in Russia. Any country with enough land and population, provides a place for anyone to hide comfortably, even in plain site. She could be working as a doctor, using her own name, with enough clients to be very comfortable, and still no one would notice.
I don't know all the facts, just the ones that have been presented in the media and in interviews. I'm not following closely though. I just know, none of us have all the evidence at our disposal, so none of us can make really educated opinions on it.
For all we know, it was some one-off killing, where some random lunatic saw a crying woman in a parking lot, killed her, drove her 1000 miles away, and buried her in a shallow grave. Heck, we've all done that once or twice. (j/k)
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
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This kind of thought is the reason that we have the system that we do. Just because someone is a complete and utter dick doesn't mean that they're guilty of murder. Controlling? Probably. Abusive? Perhaps. But there are a lot of controlling, abusive dicks that don't murder their wives. There's evidence against him, but it has to go through a court first. I was saying this to others in the Scott Peterson case, too, and it's important that it not just be a formality.
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
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I don't know what fascist dictatorship you live under, but in my part of the world it's "innocent until proven guilty".
Suicide is usually distressing for family and friends. It is sometimes the result of mental illness. But it is not "deplorable".
You own yourself. You don't own other people.
That is highly dependent on culture - In many cultures, you don't own yourself, the land or community owns you. If you suicide, you're stealing from the community you exist to serve.
Translators get paid in foreign dollars. Doctors are civil service positions in Russia, so they get paid poorly. A Doctor could moonlight as a translator in Russia, and make more money from translating than from saving people ...
Whichever it is, I'm happy to have had the chance to serve on a jury; I had the opportunity to diplomatically convince my fellow jurors to ignore the preconceived rantings of one prejudiced hick in our group and instead look at the evidence for the crime under consideration. Indeed, this hick happened to conclude guilty as I did - the difference was that I came to the conclusion based on what was presented to me throughout the case and after hours of discussion with my fellow jurors; this dolt had come to the decision by first recess on day one.
Hint: check the spellings ... carefully ... very carefully ...
Infuriate left and right
One defense is that Hans was taken by a woman looking to get out of Russia and move to America. Look! She divorced him as soon as she got her papers!
Another defense is that she moved back to Russia to get away from him.
Then there's the Russian gangster defense.
Don't forget the serial murder freind defense.
Infuriate left and right
None of my friends and none of my family have a "responsibility" to me not to end their lives. I support and love them, and I am happy to help them through any tough periods, but I do not believe that any of them should either live or die for me.
If your friends do not have any sense of commitment or responsibility to you, and vice versa, then I would question the worth of your friendship. It may suck, as you say, to be my friend, but a friendship with you would be entirely pointless.
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Wow, what selfish family and friends is all I can say
Selfish that you want people that you love to live? Selfish for a son to ask his father not to blow himself away but to try and find a job so he can see him grow up? Selfish for a daughter that needs her mother, a husband who needs his wife?
Those are some lazy, worthless relationships, you advocate. The best of human bonds are unbreakable... what you have, is pure Walmart family.
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Let me assemble your "evidence" here:
That is the evidence. Now, here is where your speculation starts -- and by "speculation", I mean "making shit up":
I've never had to live in my car, so you must never have had to, either, right?
Just because you never had to remove the passenger seat doesn't mean it's impossible for anyone to, or that the only reason you could possibly ever have is to clean blood from it.
So what?
There are any number of reasons you might be living in your car. Money is only one, perhaps the only you can think of. Or perhaps he needed the money for something else.
The most convenient way to put money in anyone's hands is electronically, yet US people write checks all the time. Why should Russian programmers be any different?
And now we move to the exercise in creative writing...
And you just made all of that up.
Go look up the definition for "reasonable doubt". We send people away when there is no other reasonable explanation for the evidence.
Well, fuck you. I've had a wet car, I've removed the seat from a car, I've had friends run from the cops (stupid thing to do, but still, doesn't make them guilty), and I have carried more cash than I should. And I've never killed anyone.
Maybe he did kill her, but nobody knows. Because nobody knows, and because we're in America, he should walk.
Unfortunately, because we're in America, you also have committed no crime by being an ignorant hate-spewing fucktard.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Dicks that abuse their wives are statistically likely to kill them.
and
Answer the question - do domestic abusers to live.
You are a complete fucktard.
All emotion, zero critical thinking skills.
YOU don't deserve to live. People like you are so easily manipulated, you are responsible for the deterioration of modern society.
Wife-beaters hurt their families, fucktards like you hurt the entire country.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
What the hell happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Yes he is an insane motherfucker, yes he bought books about murder trails, but that still doesn't prove anything.
Also, knowing that he is a programmer, he doesn't think like must people do. That makes him look crazy. But it still doesn't prove anything.
The US legal system seems more and more broken, and if he is sentenced to jail without further evidence, it just proves to me what I thought all along.
I am not saying that he is innocent, but I am saying he should be treated like he is until he is proven guilty!
I can never be too sure whether they're hiding something.
I mean, what if they knew where a terrorist had hidden a nuclear weapon that was about to destroy a major American city? Oh, they may say they don't know anything, just going on and on with their "Daddy, Daddy, please stop! Why are you hurting us? *gurgle*", but are you willing to risk the lives of millions of innocent people?
Being President is hard work, but somebody has to do it.
Turing was also gay. Horrible habit, that.
Most people don't run a business. Those who do, however, understand very well that $9K is nothing if even a tiny business can easily burn through $100K/yr. It would be indeed a reasonable pocket money; an airplane ticket to Russia would cost about $2,500 probably, and he planned to fly there. We can debate why he wasn't using his credit cards and bank accounts, but when you are travelling hard, cold cash usually works better. Besides, it is not unreasonable to assume that he was planning to skip some of Russian payroll taxes.
He doesn't speak the language
Many, if not most, Russian programmers can speak English - it's pretty much required in the trade. A translator might be useful when the discussion shifts from technical subjects to financial matters.
a hotshot doctor from a rich family
I wouldn't bet on that. Doctors were dime a dozen in the old USSR, and this was just the time when things got worse in the medical professions. Chances are she has a diploma, but that's about it; she would not be allowed to practice in the USA without jumping through many hoops and basically retraining for the local realities. That's probably why she did not work as a doctor - whe was not eligible.
Today juries as a whole tend not to be intelligent enough to know what facts are, and are swayed purely by their emotions that are played upon by the attorneys. Who ever puts on the best show wins for the most part.
Dont believe me? Who has time to sit for weeks on a jury? Most often its people that dont have regular jobs or a family to support, so the odds of getting an idiot is pretty high. ( not always of course, but the % is higher )
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Even if he is innocent, and proven as such during the trial, his life is ruined. Rather effective if you believe this was orchestrated by the wife to get back at him in revenge.
Revenge is common in bad divorces, and this smells like revenge to me.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
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Turing (most likely) killed himself because he was found guilty of the crime of being a homosexual. He was consequently stripped of his security clearance and given female hormones as a "cure," causing him to grow breasts. A story almost as fucked up as whatever is really going on with Reiser.
Your example reminds me of Einstein's pal, Fritz Haber.
He drove his wife Carla Immerwahr nuts by demanding she be a housewife (like Reiser) while she a chemistry researcher with ambitions, and it was not a happy marriage.
She committed suicide, coincidentally right after Haber introduced gas warfare in WW1 and killed 5000+ allied soldiers at the first front line trial in Ypres.
(Look it up on wikipedia, it's a colorful story.)
Interesting detail : Fritz Haber received a nobel prize for the "Haber" process for production of ammonia.
He also invented zyklon B.
Irony : Haber was of jewish origin.
OK, I'll bite. Yes people that beat their wives deserve to live. Why? well because beating your wive is not a capital offense. So there. Even the law agrees with me. We do not kill people for beating their wives. Killing their wives? That's a totally different subject. And, BTW, it really doesn't matter if it is their wives, children, neighbors or strangers in a bar. Physical violence is physical violence and we already have laws regarding it. And the penalties do not involve capital punishment for such offenses. So your question/assertion is stupid! Yes emotion is a human trait. But logic is the kingpin. A totally emotional and devoid of logic person is the kind of person you meet in insane asylums. Now I know that's where you like to hang out but still - most of us here in the real world are rational beings... And there's a big difference between "you think it's OK to beat your wife" and "you think such people should be murdered by the state". Hmmm... The George Bush thing... What's the Usenet law that says that arguments eventually boil down to some non-related thing about Hitler? I forget it. Seems to me like we can now officially substitute "George Bush" with "Hitler"... And/or perhaps 9/11 truthers/government conspiracy theories...