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Mass OLPC Production Begins

eldavojohn writes to tell us that mass production of the first XO laptops has officially started. "The commencement of mass production means children in developing nations could have the rugged, open-source laptops in hand starting this month. The OLPC has already announced orders for kids in Uruguay and Mongolia. (Residents of the U.S. and Canada participating in the Give 1 Get 1 program--which donates an XO to a child in a developing nation for every machine sold online--are expected to start getting laptops in December.)"

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  1. And since I'm fat... by RandoX · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I'll still be around to get mine!

    1. Re:And since I'm fat... by Anomolous+Cowturd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To get electricity into all their towns they're going to need electricians, draughtsmen, civil engineers, town planners, surveyors, miscellaneous paper-shufflers and so on. To get those they're going to need education.

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    2. Re:And since I'm fat... by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Funny

      To get electricity into all their towns they're going to need electricians, draughtsmen, civil engineers, town planners, surveyors, miscellaneous paper-shufflers and so on. To get those they're going to need education. Not to mention accountants and lawyers, but if they get those before they get electricity, then they are probably never going to get anything, because it would have been deemed too expensive and illegal in any case.
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    3. Re:And since I'm fat... by Zaatxe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not sure if it's been brought up before but...
      Yes, it's been brought before, a million times every single time OLPC was mentioned.

      ...shouldn't developing countries be concerned with having electricity in all of their cities and towns?
      I've never been to Uruguay, although I live less than 1000 Km from it, but I have friends who have been there and based on what they say, I'm pretty sure there is electricity all over the country. And (who would say that?) they even have some nice stuff like cellphones and TV sets!

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    4. Re:And since I'm fat... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 3, Funny

      nuh uh

      my tech tree says Metallurgy, Magnetism, Gunpowder, Physics, Invention, University, Navigation, Engineering, Philosophy, Astronomy, Construction, Literacy, Mathematics, Mysticism, Currency, Iron Working, Code of Laws, Writing, Map Making, The Wheel, Masonry, Ceremonial Burial, Bronze Working, Alphabet

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    5. Re:And since I'm fat... by galoise · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i laugh my ass off everytime i see this kind of comment. It would seem that people form the "developed world" think that everywhere else people live in the jungle sorrounded by monkeys. Electricity!? pleeeease.

      Now, of course there ARE people living in huts in the jungle in some "developing" countries, but these ARE NOT the target population of the OLPC initiative, they are the UN's peace keeping operations and humanitarian initiatives target population

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  2. Re:How about by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but imagine a beowolf cluster of... OW! OW! STOP HITTING ME!

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  3. Re:How about by jay-be-em · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree, I probably wouldn't want one much for myself, but I am considering doing
    this and giving one to my 8yo niece who is starting to mess around with computers.

    I need to do a bit more research about what exactly she could do with the machine
    though...

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  4. Re:Internet by physicsboy500 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do they come with free internet? Or a low cost internet option? yes

    From that article:
    However, the latest twist in the story is nothing but positive. T-Mobile is now offering a year of free Hot Spot Wi-Fi access, good at nearly 8,500 public T-Mobile Hot Spot locations throughout the country, including Starbucks coffee shops, Borders bookstores, and more than 70 major airports across the United States.

    The offer is only good from November 12 to 26, and considering a 12-month T-Mobile Hot Spot plan would cost $359 on its own, we can see how this could lead to a lot of OLPC purchases. OLPC has set up a Web site, laptopgiving.org, which has more details.
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  5. It's about time. by Forge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After following it's development from concept through revised designs and explanation of the rational for it's features.

    Frankly I feel like it's already part mine. Baring unavailability or some weird sales structure, I plan to get one. Or a few.

    What choice do I have when my 15 Month old is monopolizing the main desktop at home?

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    1. Re:It's about time. by rbanffy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Unless you are in a situation where you have absolutely no infrastructure (electricity, internet, etc.), I can't see the benefit to getting an OX/OLPC."

      It's called the XO, not the OX. Apart from that it's small, portable, usable under direct sunlight, wireless, runs Linux and has great battery life.

      I want one too.

      Still, the about USD 400 buy-two-get-one price tag doesn't make much business sense...

  6. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OLPC is a thinly-veiled attempt by corporations to create the next generation of IT "professionals" they can ship in to work for a third of what you charge. They're really laughing it up that they can do this is under the guise of a humanitarian gesture and get all the tax breaks to boot. There will be no Americans in IT in 20 years.
    Not with an attitude like that. You're not entitled to a high-paying job, you have to compete for it. The way to compete is to stay educated. Provide more value than "someone working for a third of what you do now".

    But a nice troll, nonetheless.
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  7. ASUS Eee Review Posted Last Week by vwpau227 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can't blame Slashdot for this one, there was a post about it last week, see the link at http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/27/1935223 for details.

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  8. Re:How about by schwaang · · Score: 3, Informative

    They do have a donation-only option, so you can do that if you want.

    But plenty of geeks could use the XO for more than a toy. It's screen would make a good e-book reader. It's fast resume and long battery life, light weight, and solid state disk make it better than a standard laptop for grab-and-go type uses.

    I won't drag my laptop everywhere, and my cellphone is too small and keyboard-less to use for much web/email or ssh. The XO fits nicely between the two. It looks very useful to me.

  9. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by jay-be-em · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remain at a loss as to why so many of my fellow Americans seem to believe
    that by being born within these borders they deserve a job.

    Having lived and worked in a developing African country I would much rather
    see jobs go to people who work their asses off with few educational and
    technical resources than to lazy Americans who don't even appreciate
    the educational opportunities available here.

    Fortunately not all Americans are as such, and those few will remain
    competitive, by working their asses off, just as it should be, not by
    being born with the national silver spoon in their mouths.

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  10. Re:Made in China? by kurokaze · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's unfair. The problem with the lead in the paint was due to the standards being changed during production. As such, toys that were made prior to the change in standards could not be magically "unmade" and had already reached the retail shelves. Admittedly, some factories in China were using the inferior paint but for those that weren't, they got a raw deal.

    Mattel simply wanted a scapegoat.

  11. Thank you OLPC by Intron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Excellent. I was getting tired of scam email from people in Nigeria. I look forward to the scams that will be coming to me from Uruguay and Mongolia.

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  12. Is it just me by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or is anyone else amused that the name for this laptop, the XO, is an emoticon for a frustrated person yelling? Seems like Microsoft would have nailed that name down. I keed, I keed.

    1. Re:Is it just me by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

      Microsoft already used the "screwed up face with tongue stuck out in disgust" in the name of their successor to Windows 2000.

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  13. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or thought much about it, or knows what a third world country is like. How can I compete with someone who only pays $30 a month for rent, can take his family to a nice restaraunt for a dollar, or ride anywhere in the country for a nickle? Not even by doing away with such luxuries like electricity and running water could I compete with that!

    That was what Thailand was like in 1974 (USAF at the end of the Vietnam war). You can't compete with "dirt cheap".

    -mcgrew

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  14. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to worry. Without a Microsoft OS, nobody can get an MCSE using these things. You should be safe :-)

  15. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by xappax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Outsourcing is shitty, but the solution isn't to keep third world kids stupid and computer-illiterate. We need to demand that US corporations take more responsibility for the local workers and towns who have carried them this far. Big business will screw over local workers as much as they can get away with, but we can reign them in as a society simply by demanding more than low, low prices. Support local businesses, boycott unethical/irresponsible companies. We don't need to resort to sabotaging the educational systems of other countries.

  16. Re:How about by blindd0t · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, I can definitely imagine that. Running a large cluster off the hand-cranks would quite a nice exercise routine.

  17. Re:How about by pdxdada · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm buying one of these because I want to have a computer I don't have to worry about. This thing is designed to be dropped, to have stuff spilled on it, to thrown in a bag. I'm buying one of these because I travel a lot and when I travel all I want to do is check my e-mail, read some documents, and maybe take some notes and not worry that every bump or drop of my bag will spell doom for my laptop. And finally I'm buying one because it can do all those things and if I do manage to kill it, lose it or it gets stollen at $400 it's not the end of the world. Call it a toy if you want, but I've wanted something similar for quite a while and I do plan to get a lot of use out of mine.

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  18. Re:Insightful?? by jay-be-em · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are a lot of arguments relating to this in the book Guns, Germs and Steel.
    I'd recommend checking it out if you haven't. According to the author it comes
    down to geography and (related to geography) the availability of native domesticable
    plant and animal species -- which is the one resource that matters most. The Eurasian
    continent had them, the Americas, Africa and Australia did not.

    It's a fascinating book with loads of information. I understand the difficulty
    people have with the question you pose -- it's not at all obvious. While treating
    these peoples (Native American, South American, Native Australians, Africans ...)
    as inferiors for so long was/is not justified, it's understandable why
    so many people assumed they were an inferior subspecies -- it in fact takes a lot
    of analysis to figure out why their societies are so behind Eurasian based societies.

    Now, I agree the OLPC may not do anything. I think it depends on what is included a lot.
    I worked as a mathematics and physics teacher for a few years in West Africa. In my opinion
    if the OLPC can serve as a substitute for the relatively expensive school books students
    are expected to purchase today it would be a massive help -- and in fact cheaper, OLPC and
    co wouldn't need to give these machines away if they could show the value of them. That's
    all of course beyond the IT educational component of the thing, which seems to be the focus
    at OLPC. From what I've seen on the wiki it looks like the ebooks component of the project
    is pretty undeveloped.

    If the thing was packed full of 12 years of well made interactive textbooks, it would be
    a Godsend. I'm a bit worried though that it's going to be more of a toy that kids play
    around with -- IM, WWW, email, etc.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  19. Geode LX-700 by Weaselmancer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's got a nice processor, the Geode LX-700.

    That's a lot of oomph actually. I know we're all used to our 3ghz desktops, but think about how nice 700mhz(equiv) actually is. I've got a refurbished eMachines 650 in my basement. It plays divx video with no problems.

    You could use one of these as a portable entertainment center easy. Or how about a router? The thing is designed for minimum power draw. Use one in your basement as a router that works the way you want it to work.

    A sub $200 x86 with that kind of horsepower and power specs has hundreds of uses.

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  20. Age of entitlement. by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We have become a nation enslaved to our government through entitlements. The politicians daily spout that YOU deserve this and this, these people over here deserve this, and those over there get to pay for it because their too rich. When jobs are lost overseas the politicians trot out declaring evil corporations are to blame and that these entities need to be penalized; taxed more; to set the balances right.

    We are encouraged to run up debt and then disclaim responsibility for our actions. We can engage in risk behavior and blame does who don't stop us (bartenders, smoking, riding without helmets, etc). We are told constantly that so and so wasn't at fault for murdering people because society, movies, video games, Iraq, etc, made them do it.

    We are bombarded by the very people we elect to believe "It's okay, the government will make it all right" and people buy into this. Its easy to do when your not footing the bill for your actions. Unemployed because you won't learn a viable trade? Its okay, we got help for that. As such we see business practically driven overseas or the jobs go there.

    An entitlement state only exists for as long as the people stuck paying have the means to do so. We won't run out of people to vilify soon, but it is still wrong.

    No, we don't deserve jobs just because we live here, we don't deserve health care, we don't deserve cell phones, we don't deserve fancy cars, we don't deserve high speed net, we don't deserve a lot of things but it never ceases to amaze me what order people put their priorities.

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    1. Re:Age of entitlement. by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An "entitlement state"? Is this the new buzzphrase that makes a complex situation seem really simple?

      I thought the government was paralyzing us with fear, and helping the rich get richer. Isn't "state of fear" that the current anti-government line?

      The reason the western world has it better than most of the rest of the world is a complex and interesting one, that can't be boiled down to politicians telling us we deserve something or rich people paying for everything good in our lives. All that matters for your argument is that America does have a very high GDP, as does the rest of the developed world. Because we're developed we're more productive; America isn't a country of people on welfare who are all wealthy for some inexplicable reason, businesses don't thrive in the US because the government is stealing from the rich, China accepts US credit for a reason.

      If you don't think we deserve this or that modern convenience then give them up. Don't write on a laptop about how "ohh we are so terrible, we don't deserve laptops and cheese graters, damn government! No Mr Bush I don't deserve this fancy car you say I'm entitled to and that you're willing to pay for at the expense of the rich, give me a horse and buggy like they probably all use in China! I'm going to help the developing world by denying myself the cell phones and cars they manufacture."


      On outsourcing, while I'm writing: My experience with outsourcing is limited to freelance sites like rentacoder.com , where people across the world can bid on software projects. I found that the prices for bids quoted by people in India or Romania or China are right in line with prices I would quote. There are no coders living in tents that will write SQL server for a hundred US dollars.

      A lot of the outsourcing by Microsoft and the like to India Research is often done because it lets them get more done per day; as Redmond goes to sleep Bombay is getting down to work, as Bombay goes to sleep Cambridge is putting the coffee on, as Cambridge goes to sleep Redmond is checking its e-mail and seeing what progress has been made.

      If you're really scared about outsourcing rather than fight the market you should want these countries to develop as quickly as possible so that everyone is on a level playing field. India will have more IT pros, but it'll need them in their own economy.

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  21. Re:Child Labor by Anomolous+Cowturd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those aren't children. They're young women. Get some glasses.

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  22. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by truesaer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All of this babbling about hard work misses the point...if hard work was what determined value then fruit pickers would make a ton of money. It's not hard work, it's your ability to provide value that matters. As work currently done by americans is offshored we need to respond by providing higher value services. Less simple code jockeying are more software architecture and design, that kind of thing. Keep upgrading your skills, they set you apart much more than simple hard work ever can.

  23. Re:If you work in IT, you shouldn't support OLPC by Ed+Avis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I shouldn't have to compete with every twit in every 3rd world country willing to work for the cost of a soda a day.
    Maybe you think that, but the person paying the wages probably thinks otherwise. Since they are paying the bills, their opinion counts. You are, of course, free to start a company employing only workers on Western salaries if you believe that's how it should be. Let whichever provides the best service win.
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  25. Re:For $400 by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does your regular laptop have a daylight readable screen? Can you chuck it in the back of your car without a second thought? Does it have a sealed keyboard so you can use it at the beach without a worry? How much does your regular laptop weigh and what is its battery life like?

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  26. Re:How about by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Funny

    OW! OW! STOP HITTING ME! Too bad. Hitting you recharges my XO laptop battery.

    - RG>
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  27. Re:How about by Hamoohead · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, but does it run Li. . .OW! OW! Hit him! Hit him!

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  28. Some background from Uruguay by Acer500 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm from Uruguay (the country that has actually gone out and bought the XOs), and... it's not at all like you imagine it.

    We have electricity and running water everywhere, better literacy than the US and public education for everyone (better than that of the US if Slashdot whining is to be believed !)

    On the other hand, average wages are about U$ 300/month, and so a computer is a luxury item for most, and very especially for parents of school-age children like the ones which will be the recipient of the XO.

    You can read at the unofficial Proyecto Ceibal blog (the Uruguayan OLPC initiative) about how this has the potential to be a nice step forward :)

    http://olpc-ceibal.blogspot.com/

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    1. Re:Some background from Uruguay by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm from Uruguay (the country that has actually gone out and bought the XOs), and... it's not at all like you imagine it.

      We have electricity and running water everywhere Sounds messy and dangerous! We keep our wanter and electricity in pipes and wires, it's much more orderly ;-)
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  29. Re:How about by corsec67 · · Score: 2, Informative

    None of those are a problem for an ebook reader with some extras. The sunlight readable display is very useful compared to most laptop screens.

    If I got one, I would use it for reading books out in the field when I am doing some Wildland Firefighting. Low power consumption, nice display, and durability are of more use there than the keyboard layout.

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