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"Stealth" Plasma Antennas

eldavojohn writes "There's a new antenna that consists of plasma and essentially vanishes when you turn it off. While it may seem to not have many uses in the commercial world, it is very important to military personnel who risk detection or for anybody wishing to avoid signal jamming."

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  1. How does a disappearing antenna help? by explosivejared · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does having the antenna "disappear" effect it's ability to circumvent jamming? The article is apparently being slashdotted as I type this, so I'm just curious.

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    1. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by another_neophyte · · Score: 3, Informative

      The article briefly claims the plasma attenna can be adjusted to react to the jamming. Independent feature of the ability to disappear.

    2. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by TaeKwonDood · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because it's a plasma antenna, it's tunable on the fly. No jamming tech ( though it will surely follow ) works on every f at once. The invisibility is just because it shuts off so then is basically inert.

    3. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by The+FNP · · Score: 3, Informative

      Antennas are not stealthy. They have a radar signature, but glass has a minimal radar signature. So the tube should not be as non-stealthy as attaching a chunk of metal to an otherwise stealthy piece of equipment.

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    4. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Strawberry...or possibly grape

    5. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by Chrononium · · Score: 5, Informative

      One very simple way to counteract jamming is to note that the jammer is not omnipresent. That is, the jamming source is often only present in a small radian-angle of the antenna's radiation sphere. Therefore, you can counteract jamming by configuring your antenna to place a null in the direction of the jammer (i.e. ignore the annoying little kid) and radiating elsewhere. Alternatively, if you know where you want to either transmit a signal or receive a signal, you can create a beam to point in that direction by reconfiguring your antenna. In both cases, it is usually standard practice to use an array of antennas. This invention (and no, it's not really a new idea, but perhaps the engineering makes it more reliable or easier to manufacture than in the past) allows you to place a large antenna array on an aircraft without permanently increasing the RCS of said aircraft, since the antennas only exist when you charge up the plasma. A large antenna array can create a narrow beam and place several nulls using conventional technology. All of this stuff exists today, so these plasma antennas just need to replace metal antennas and away you go. The really interesting application of these antennas could actually be to create 3D reconfigurable antennas using DC-magnetic fields (kind of like a CRT, but with more magnets).

    6. Re:How does a disappearing antenna help? by Mincer+Lightbringer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Raspberry!
      There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry: Lone Starr!

  2. Non Slashdotted Link by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I submitted this story, I submitted the story from PhysOrg and I'm not sure why they changed the link. That poor blog didn't stand a chance. I guess they must do that to more randomly distribute their news sources or make it look like they aren't playing host to some PhysOrg worker trying to generate more traffic. Oh well, enjoy a usable link anyhow.

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  3. Not News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Not if you fly if from a stealth-plasma flagpole! by wsanders · · Score: 5, Funny

    (Sorry ham radio nerd humor.)

    Disguise it as a stealth-plasma flagpole and proudly fly a red-white-and-blue flaming sheet-o-plasma flag! Has the added advantage of shocking the hell out of any pot-smoking hippies who try to burn it!

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  5. TFA by DumbSwede · · Score: 3, Informative

    'Stealth' Antenna Made Of Gas, Impervious To Jamming Submitted by News Account on 12 November 2007 - 2:58pm. Physics

    A new antenna made of plasma (a gas heated to the point that the electrons are ripped free of atoms and molecules) works just like conventional metal antennas, except that it vanishes when you turn it off.

    That's important on the battlefield and in other applications where antennas need to be kept out of sight. In addition, unlike metal antennas, the electrical characteristics of a plasma antenna can be rapidly adjusted to counteract signal jamming attempts.

    Plasma antennas behave much like solid metal antennas because electrons flow freely in the hot gas, just as they do in metal conductors. But plasmas only exist when the gasses they're made of are very hot. The moment the energy source heating a plasma antenna is shut off, the plasma turns back into a plain old (non conductive) gas. As far as radio signals and antenna detectors go, the antenna effectively disappears when the plasma cools down.

    This prototype plasma antenna is stealthy, versatile, and jam-resistant. Credit: T. R. Anderson and I. Alexeff

    The antenna design being presented at next week's APS Division of Plasma Physics meeting in Orlando consists of gas-filled tubes reminiscent of neon bulbs. The physicists presenting the design propose that an array of many small plasma elements could lead to a highly versatile antenna that could be reconfigured simply by turning on or off various elements.

    - T. R. Anderson and I. Alexeff 2007 APS Division of Plasma Physics annual meeting November 12, 2007

    1. Re:TFA by Brandon30X · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These antennas sound interesting, reconfigurable and all that, but I am guessing that their noise performance must be awful. And I mean electrical noise not audio noise for those out there who are confused. Usually in an RF system you want as little noise up front as possible, and noise goes up with temperature. So this is an antenna made of very hot plasma as the very first element in the receiver system.

      I could be wrong, I didnt RTFA.

      -Brandon

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  6. Lots of problems with this article by compumike · · Score: 4, Informative

    In a normal antenna, electrons in the metal slosh up and down, accelerated by the electromagnetic fields that it's receiving (or transmitting). In this case, I could use the same description: electrons slosh up and down, driven by the EM fields.

    The idea that this could lead to a reconfigurable antenna is a bit farfetched, as it would require that the driving bias electrodes be able to totally float at RF frequencies. Just like a neon sign, or a fluorescent light, you're going to have to keep a large voltage across these to get them to light, so it'll be tricky to use it as a receiving antenna in particular.

    Take a look at another project, Talking Lights. This uses conventional fluorescent lights (hey, a plasma!) with a modified ballast to transmit data at serial-link speeds.

    The "jam-resistance" doesn't make any sense. If it can receive signals, it can receive signals, period. At the point of the antenna, the desired signal and the jamming signal have already been mixed. The antenna itself can't help you out. (Clever frequency-hopping or other schemes can, though.)

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  7. I remember these things..... by DavidKlemke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back in my university days I had the pleasure of being taught by a physicist turned engineer who was actually working on one of these things. The trouble with traditional antennas is their giant radar footprint and traditionally they solved this problem by flopping the antennas up and down when they needed to send signals. Not the most graceful solution so they started looking for alternatives. We had one of the prototypes of these things in the plasma instrumentation lab and it was pretty adept at sending some small signals. The great thing about them is their tunability. Just like any kind of woodwind instrument if you change the length of the tube (imagine a giant piston that's got plasma in it) you change the resonant frequency. My lecturer referred to it as playing the plasma trombone. Good to see these things finally making their way through to practical uses. I was always hoping my crazy lecturer's tinkerings would be used someday.

  8. Combat viable? by djasbestos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The pic from TFA looks a bit dainty for combat use. I think a whip antenna is probably still more reliable and has a smaller radar signature for short range communication (IE a couple dozen miles). And the big ones, well, there's no hiding them.

    Plus that whole bright and hot thing tends to attract the attention of certain guided missiles and sensor systems...not good! Maybe if they paint the glass or something...at least the light problem is solved.

  9. Doesn't exactly Disappear, not in free air. by DumbSwede · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I reposted the article just above. The picture shows a glowing u-shaped florecent tube. By "disappear" I believe they just mean large radar return. Such materials are called PECs in radar parlance (Perfect Electrical Conductor). You will still be able to see the tube visually.

    In related speculation, I wonder if you could use the ION beam from a space probe's thruster (assuming Ion Drive of course) as an antenna. Of course since it wouldn't be parabolic or very directional it might be of limited use.

  10. Re:Prediction by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats what you get for making your women cover their faces.

    Rosie O'Donnell much?

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  11. Switch now! by maciarc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone should go out an buy a new plasma antenna before they switch on Feb 17, 2009. After that, your old metal ones will have to have an adapter to work.

  12. Re:Heat & Light vs Wire? by mangu · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If you are in some place where a single wire will give away your location, I think the heat and light would be easier to notice than the wire.


    The light is easily taken care of, just paint it black. The heat released is about the same as a fluorescent bulb, much less than a human being emits.


    As for detecting the wire, an antenna is resonating at a specific frequency, and that can be detected easily with very simple equipment. That how most anti-shoplifting devices work.


    I think the main use for these plasma antennas wouldn't be for a soldier in an open battlefield, but for covert operations instead. The idea is to make it harder for the enemy to find if someone in a crowd is carrying a concealed radio.

  13. Re:Prediction by renegadesx · · Score: 2

    If you have seen Britney Spears face reacently, maybe those "sand niggers" as you like to call them maybe on to something

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  14. An old idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is an old idea. Look in Kraus, Antennas, Third edition. Section 21-29. Also see patent 6657594. The point is the RCS of the antenna is lower when the plasma is off, they efficiency of this type of antenna isn't that high.

  15. Re:Heat signature? by mapsjanhere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes - and no :)
    The gas is hot, but at very low pressure. So the amount of energy transmitted to the glass container surrounding it is minimal, and could be further reduced by active cooling. So the second your incomings are detected and the antenna shuts down it becomes invisible to both the RF and infrared seeker.

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  16. Re:Mod Parent Up by secPM_MS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I assume that the technology would be more useful in radar sources, where you could do a short term illumination of a target and then turn it off. A sensor trying to pick up the antenna when it was not powered might well have a significantly harder time than with a traditional antenna.

  17. Re:Heat & Light vs Wire? by mapsjanhere · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The real application for this might be in space. It's very hard to hide your satellite from the incoming kill vehicle if you have a huge antenna deployed. This technique could actually project a "ghost antenna" just off the satellite, and since this is not horse shoes, close does not count.

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  18. Seems a tad misleading by Tinman_au · · Score: 2, Funny

    The plasma is contained in a glass, neon light, like tube.

    I was picturing a 30-40' foot long spear of flaming hot plasma death that you could turn on your enemies to turn them into smouldering piles of charcoal....and radio in to mom at the same time!!!

  19. Auto Electronics by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Funny

    antenna that consists of plasma and essentially vanishes when you turn it off. While it may seem to not have many uses in the commercial world,

    Everyone who parks their car in NYC and other hostile environments wants an antenna that vanishes when you turn it off. Plasma probably wouldn't jam after a year of use like a retractable antenna, and might even clean the snow off your car, including the pile burying you from the street plows.
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  20. It is stealthy by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Metallic antennas are excited by EM radiation (radio waves) of a proper wavelength. In turn, the antenna will re-radiate (transmit) a tiny bit of that energy, although very weakly, which can be detected. This is totally passive, which is how it is possible to build a passive repeater by simply running a wire between two directional antennas. It is also the general principal of how RFID tags work.

    The stealth of this antenna is that it is non-metallic and will not react to EMF when switched off. It has nothing to do with how big the antenna is, or what color it is, or whether or not it emits light, which are all things people have been speculating about.

    Dan East

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  21. embassy spying technology? by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Interesting



    Install a listening device in an embassy meeting room. Records many weeks of conversations. Does not broadcast. Also has a radio receiver.

    Prior to an electrical storm, drop a package on the roof using a rapid-descent parachute. It looks like a chimney or AC unit, with a large pole on top that functions as a lightening rod. The box sends a signal to the inside recorder that tells it to broadcast a burst of encrypted data to the box then when lightening hits the pole, it becomes a plasma attenna that can broadcast the data over a long distance. Oh, and the electricity from the lightening powers the whole operation. Then the box self-destructs on the roof.

    Seth

  22. Re:Hides by Glowing in the Dark? by Palpitations · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can fabricate some pretty sturdy pieces of glass that you could beat a person to death with, It's going to cost you a fortune but thats hasn't stopepd the military yet. If I remember correctly glass in theory is stronger then steel it's just that during the cooling process many micro fractures form in it. Strength and cost varies widely depending on the type of glass you use. Borosilicate is pretty cheap, and I've seen rods of that thrown against a brick wall without taking any visible damage (I didn't check it with a polariscope - a tool used to view internal stresses in glass). If you need something stronger you can use fused quartz, ruby, and I'm sure many more exotic forms.

    As far as the micro fractures thing? That's not quite correct. What you get is a build up of internal stresses. This weakens the glass, and reduces it's ability to handle thermal and mechanical shocks. I may be mistaken, but I believe this is related to the coefficient of thermal expansion - basically as the outside of the glass cools it contracts. This leaves the cooled glass pushing against the pressure of the still molten glass, and once completely cooled, that stress remains.

    That's all pretty much a non-issue though. Controlled cooling in an annealing oven takes care of it well enough.
  23. Re:Hides by Glowing in the Dark? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    >Borosilicate is pretty cheap, and I've seen rods of that thrown against a brick wall without taking any visible damage

    Go you one better: Prince Rupert's Drops. Drip molten glass into water. The few that survive are incredibly, unbelievably tough -- I've made ones the size of peas (well, teardrop-shaped peas) and put them on a vise and hammered them with a steel hammer and left dents in the vise back and the hammer face, without hurting the glass. When that gets boring, you snap the long tail that was left when it fell off the main glob of glass, which sometimes takes a pair of pliers to snap even though it's hair-thin, and the whole drop explodes violently.
    Don't bother trying to make a whole bunch and keep them in a box, though: the ones I made had a half-life of about 2 days.
    I knew a chem grad student who dropped out because he spent all his grant money on special heat treatment stuff, dripping drops the size of lightbulbs off the roof of the chem building.

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  24. Re:Hides by Glowing in the Dark? by Kreigaffe · · Score: 2, Informative

    yeah.. all ruby is, is aluminum oxide. in crystalline form. the created rubies / emeralds / sapphires are essentially identical to their natural counterparts in composition and structure these days..

    it can be synthed without too much trouble, but the cost of an alum.ox. antenna would still probably be pretty high, though. while it's cheaper to create a gem in the lab than buy a wild one, that's just for gem-sized pieces. it'll cost a fair shake regardless if you're talking about FEET (or METERS) rather than inches or mm.

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