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Major Breakthrough in Direct Neural Interface

jd writes "In a major breakthrough, neurologists are reporting that they can decypher neurological impulses into speech with an 80% accuracy. A paralyzed man who is incapable of speech has electrodes implanted in his brain which detect the electrical pulses in the brain relating to speech. These signals are then fed into computers which covert these pulses into signals suitable for speech synthesis. As a biotech marvel, this is astonishing. Depending on the rate of development it is possible to imagine Professor Hawking migrating to this, as it would be immune to any further loss of body movement and would vastly accelerate his ability to talk. On the flip-side, direct brain I/O is also a major step towards William Gibson's Neuromancer and other cyberpunk dark futures."

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  1. what if by rucs_hack · · Score: 5, Funny

    The subject turns out to have Tourettes syndrome?

    OI! [redacted] will you [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] make me a [redacted][redacted][redacted] cup of [redacted] coffee?

    Brain obscenity filters for teh wins....

  2. More info by niceone · · Score: 4, Informative
    The BBC article is pretty light on detail, and the New Scientist one is subscribers only, but there is more stuff here.

    They have hooked up to 41 neurons and:

    For now, the team is focusing on the building blocks of words. In a series of experiments over the last few years, Ramsey has imagined saying three vowel sounds: "oh", "ee" and "oo". By watching his brain activity, the researchers have been able to identify distinct patterns associated with the different sounds. Although the data is still being analysed, they believe that they can correctly identify the sound Ramsey is imagining around 80 per cent of the time
  3. Re:Really accurate? by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How do they know they're accurately converting the signals to sound, if they're basing this off a man who has no ability to speak?
    Many people who are unable to speak are able to communicate in some other way (usually, some form of gesture, whether sign language, nodding, blinking, whatever.) It doesn't take a much to be able to indicate "right" or "wrong".
  4. What drives modern science? by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 5, Funny

    What drives the advances of the last couple decades?

    Two desires:

    1. To restore Stephen Hawking's physical body to its former fully-functional form.

    2. To turn Stephen Hawking into a mobile, indestructible cyborg of incomprehensible power.

  5. Wait-- they haven't actually done this yet by raddan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Read carefully

    Although the data is still being analysed, researchers at Boston University believe they can correctly identify the sound Mr Ramsay's brain is imagining some 80% of the time.

    In the next few weeks, a computer will start the task of translating his thoughts into sounds.

    "We hope it will be a breakthrough," says Joe Wright of Neural Signals, which has helped develop the technology. While this is indeed promising, and I hope that this 'unlocks' this poor fellow, this 'unlocking' has not happened yet. Hopefully, when they are able to decipher these signals, he's not saying, "Kill me" over and over again.
  6. Re:Really accurate? by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm guessing the 80% comes from the fact that this is an issue of the linear separability of signals. Its generally hard to get reliable sensitivity/specificity measures over this that anyone is going to take seriously.

    Sensitivity = percentage number of correct identifications
    Specificity = corresponding percentage of incorrect identifications at each measured sensitivity.

    Probably they can get up to 90%, but from experience I would say the rate of false positives at this sensitivity likely is moving towards exponential increase. It's better to stop at 80%, at least when something is in the early stages.

    This is just guessing of course, I have no understanding of their research, but going from my own work on non linearly separable sets, I'd say this is what's happening.

  7. Re:80% accurracy? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    80% accuracy is NOWHERE near good enough.
    It's good enough to get you elected president - twice.
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  8. can still communicate by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diving_Bell_and_the_Butterfly

    he could blink. that's it. yes or no. and with that ability, letter by letter, he wrote a book (with the help of some very patient nurses/ assistants)

    it's coming out as a movie soon too i think

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  9. Re:What? by klenwell · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe Antonio Damasio addresses this question in one of his books. Apparently, a fortunate side-effect of this condition is it impairs the part of your brain that would normally find this horrific and intolerable and leaves you with a weird sense of acceptance and well-being (IIRC). Otherwise, I guess you just blink a lot and hope they keep the feeding tube hooked up.

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  10. Been done! by Sqweegee · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39133

    "With the new exoskeleton, Stephen will be able to safely handle radioactive isotopes in the high-radiation area of the new supercollider particle accelerator. And his new robo-arms are capable of ripping open enemy tanks like they were nutshells,"

  11. Sadly more likely... by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife was in a massive car accident, a decade ago. She was in a coma for a month, suffered brain injuries, a collapsed lung, shattered arm, cracked eye socket, multiply broken jaw, etc. A national merit scholarship winner before the accident, her parents were told that, if she survived, she'd likely never walk much or be able to look after herself again.

    As it happened, she was sufficiently beaten up at the time that she had no concept of how bad her injuries were. She got out of the wheelchair simply because it frustrated her. She went back to working part time simply because she didn't realize she wasn't supposed to be able to. By the time she comprehended what had happened, she'd improved enough that setting impossible goals like "become a personal trainer" weren't quite so impossible. We taught her to read again (yes, even that got messed up) and even managed to get her back in to school - initially only able to pull a 2.0 average but improved each semester.

    In her case, she had an amazing recovery. Yet she, herself, says, "If I'm ever like that again, turn me off." She didn't realize how hurt she was and got lucky with recovering before she did. Understanding now, she has absolutely no desire to try that fight again. She'd rather just call it a day.

    So, sadly, there's a real likelihood that his first words, upon realizing he can finally communicate, after years of being unable to and stuck in a totally paralyzed body, will be, "Kill me." Probably not ideal to have the family in the room for.

    And yes, that entire story was just so I could "drop" that I have a wife in a slashdot post. Cunning, huh?

    1. Re:Sadly more likely... by tjstork · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And yes, that entire story was just so I could "drop" that I have a wife in a slashdot post. Cunning, huh?

      Your wife's recovery and you staying with her, through all of that, is the most poignant thing I have read on Slashdot, ever.

      A story like yours deserves to be told, and demands that we listen.

      May the winds always be at your back.

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  12. That extra 20% probably wasn't important anyway... by uhlume · · Score: 4, Funny

    Subject's first words? "Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all."

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  13. Re:Really accurate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article says the man is 'locked in', which means that he not only cannot speak, but he has no voluntary movement whatsoever, even blinking eyelids.

    There was an article recently in New Scientist about this. One problem doctors studying this field have is that since it is an experimental treatment, they need consent of the patient, and how can they get consent if the patient can't communicate?

    With some locked-in patients, they are able to respond based on the acidity of their saliva. They are told to either imagine eating lemons (for yes) or eating milk (for no), and their saliva sympathetically adjusts to their thoughts. Then their saliva is measured. See more here: http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2007/08/locked_in_with_the_b.html

    Sad to say it, but I suspect the first thing the patient will say is "kill me".

  14. Research posters by FleaPlus · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those curious, this speech prosthesis research was presented in a number of posters at the Society for Neuroscience (SfN) conference a couple weeks ago. Their six SfN posters can be found on their website here, covering topics like the circuitry they developed, Bayesian signal analysis, and so forth:

    http://migrate.speechprosthesis.org/DNN2/SpeechProsthesisHome/tabid/52/Default.aspx

    There's also a nice blog entry on this over at Neurophilosophy:

    http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2007/11/speech_prosthesis.php

  15. Re:Really accurate? by sorak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Many people who are unable to speak are able to communicate in some other way (usually, some form of gesture, whether sign language, nodding, blinking, whatever.) It doesn't take a much to be able to indicate "right" or "wrong".

    Remember, it's only 80% accurate. It may be more like "rigm!" or "prong!"

  16. Re:Slashdot. by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Judeo-Christian values were at the core
    If, by "Judeo-Christian," you mean "Western," then you are right.

    The majority of Western values do not trace their roots to any of the Middle Eastern religions. They come from other places, such as Greek philosophers.

    In fact, the philosophical foundations of the US are in many ways opposite to the so-called Christian values. Cruel and unusual punishment, for example, is condoned--actually commanded--by the Christian god. Slavery, and the belief that all men are NOT created equal, is a common theme in the Bible.

    The statesmen/philosophers who founded this country may have been Christian, but the documents they wrote to found this country were quite the opposite.
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  17. Re:Really accurate? by skoaldipper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have time to kill on lunch. Let's see...

    Right Wrong = 10 letters.

    P in Prong = 1
    M in rigm = 1 (+1 letter missing)
    1 missing = 1/2

    So, (10 - 2.5)/10 = 0.75 ~ 80%

    Your post above not only meets funny standards, but accolades for careful thought in using relevant and accurate choice of words. Well done, sir, well done!

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  18. Re:Really accurate? by fbjon · · Score: 5, Funny
    Reportedly, the first words spoken through this interface were:


    "Frist wrods!!"

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