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CNet Promotes Essential Open-Source Software to Joe Public

Zool writes "A feature is currently running on CNet explicitly promoting open-source software alternatives for typical home users, with programs rated and compared to commercial offerings. Although there's no mention of the Linux advantages to home users, the list is extensive and certainly written with the intention of snagging wider open-source adoption and understanding in the mainstream. 'Why should you care about open source? You should care because the vast majority of common applications, even complex commercial stuff like Adobe Photoshop, Windows Media Player and Microsoft Office, have free, open-source alternatives. And this point is worth reiterating: open-source software is free. No cost. Zero. Zilch.'"

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  1. Hard drive photo? by suso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Somehow I think it odd to have a picture of an open case hard drive to represent open source software.

    1. Re:Hard drive photo? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think computer parts would make for fantastic lawn art.
      There's a nerdy redneck joke in there somewhere...
  2. Free as in Beer then Free as in Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "And this point is worth reiterating: open-source software is free. No cost. Zero. Zilch."

    I find this may be the better approach in introducing people to free[dom]/open source software. People don't understand at first the implications of free[dom] software.

    After the hook of 'free', then people can learn about the freedom aspects. Of course if they clue in right away the importance of freedom, all the better.

    1. Re:Free as in Beer then Free as in Freedom by ByOhTek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most users don't care about freedom, they want something that (a) works suitable for their purposes, and (b) doesn't require them to change their use habits, and last but not least (c) requires a minimum of extra work to get running.

      Most non-free software provides this functionality as easily as free software.

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    2. Re:Free as in Beer then Free as in Freedom by vertinox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most non-free software provides this functionality as easily as free software.

      There are always two factors to choosing software:

      1. Price of the software.
      2. The amount of time it takes to acquire and learn to use said software.

      Example:

      Given the choice of purchasing the expensive Photoshop or downloading user unfriendly GIMP for free, which will the average user do?

      The answer is they will pirate Photoshop for free and Win/Win!

      But seriously, most people tend to go with what they can their hands on for the least amount of trouble. Most people think that Windows and or MS Office is free because it comes with the computer

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    3. Re:Free as in Beer then Free as in Freedom by LuSiDe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most users don't care about freedom, they want something that (a) works suitable for their purposes, and (b) doesn't require them to change their use habits, and last but not least (c) requires a minimum of extra work to get running.
      How long did you work to pay your software licenses, and how long did you have to work extra to get it working, and change your habit of not paying for software? ;)

      Most non-free software provides this functionality as easily as free software.
      Especially if you also consider `piracy'.
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  3. Does this matter? by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are there really any CNet readers who aren't tech savvy enough to have actually heard of open source? Sure, there are people out there who have never used any free software, but they sure don't read CNet.

    1. Re:Does this matter? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, but there are plenty who click on links, so whenever CNET can create a 10-page article with 10 lines of actual content, they will.

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  4. Free Speech is Not Free Beer by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And this point is worth reiterating: open-source software is free. No cost. Zero. Zilch. - Nate Lanxon

    That point is worthless, or some negative value. Because open-source software is free speech , notfree beer. Plenty of open source is $free, but there's plenty of paid products that include the source code. It's harder to prevent people from redistributing open source, to collect the money from something they can copy to others without paying. But that's copyright violation, which CNet is now promoting, even though it makes its own income from that same protection.

    Lanxon is the MP3 and digital music reviewer for CNet. Next time he says anything defending music industry copyrights, or his own on his articles, readers should remind him. Maybe by republishing it under their own name.
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    1. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But thats not the "Free" there talking about. I don't know what insanely useful app you've developed that I can't live with out, but the major ones (OO.org, firefox, gnu/linux, bsd, gimp, mysql, postgres ... the list goes on) All come with redistribution and usage rights.

      If the point is to introduce new people to software, it only make sense to talk about the applications that they will want to use and the licenses that cover them. Most of the people that would be learning about free software wouldn't be programmers that would have to worry about mixing source code with non compatible licenses and then redistributing the end result.

      Plus the licenses you seem to be referencing, don't seem to be very free as in speech. Are they even certified as open licenses?

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    2. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by illumin8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That point is worthless, or some negative value. Because open-source software is free speech , notfree beer. Plenty of open source is $free, but there's plenty of paid products that include the source code. It's harder to prevent people from redistributing open source, to collect the money from something they can copy to others without paying. But that's copyright violation, which CNet is now promoting, even though it makes its own income from that same protection.
      I'm all for free speech and free beer. I'm a big OSS advocate, but seriously, you guys need to get off your high horse sometimes and realize that this is how you sell OSS to Joe Sixpack. Joe Sixpack doesn't care whether the software on his computer is free as in speech or not. He doesn't care about modifying the source code, or freedom to fork. He does care about cost though.

      The free speech education can come later, but please, quit arguing semantics because all you do is give the entire OSS movement a bad name. Joe Sixpack will see some idiot blathering on about how free speech does not equal free beer and think we're all just a bunch of whining hippies. Then he'll never use OSS because he thinks there is a religious ideology behind it.

      Show him good "free as in beer" software, then later on, if he's interested, educate him on why "free as in speech" is important too. Please do us all a favor and don't try to ram ideology down Joe Sixpack's throat.
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    3. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by rgravina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hear hear! Most non-programmers I have got to use open source alternatives have done so because of the free is in beer aspect. Almost all of them have eventually understood the free as in speech advantages too. Especially those in small business, who begin to realise that not only do updates to the software come for free, they can also pay programmers to improve the program or fix a critical bug if they choose to.

    4. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not ramming ideology. It's CNet that explains the ideology wrong by saying "open source = $free". They could just tell people the SW they're pushing is free, without saying something false about the source code. Because, as you say, most people don't care.

      Don't rant at me for correcting their mistake. Rant at CNet for mentioning the source code as a benefit for everyone.

      FWIW, open source is not really an ideology, but a development technique. That has important benefits to consumers in quality and, yes, cost. Just because Stallman is a whiny hippie doesn't mean the rest of us are. Your rant just makes that image worse by perpetuating it, even when that image is irrelevant to the actual story here: cost and quality benefits of the SW CNet is promoting. No one mentioned ideology, or relied on it, at all, until you started shouting it down like a straw man.

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    5. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No one narrowed CNet's "open source is $free" statement to the GPL until you just did.

      And the other (non-GPL) license often offers exactly the same terms as the GPL, including the open source, but explicitly limits the redistribution.

      The point is that "free" software has lots of different meanings, some subsets, some complementary but respecting different kinds of transactions (eg. reading the source vs not paying for it). CNet's statement was the grossest oversimplification, which made it wrong.

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    6. Re:Free Speech is Not Free Beer by illumin8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not ramming ideology. It's CNet that explains the ideology wrong by saying "open source = $free". They could just tell people the SW they're pushing is free, without saying something false about the source code. Because, as you say, most people don't care.
      I just think CNet is doing a pretty decent job of "marketing" open source products to the average computer user. Because really, that's what advocacy is: marketing.

      I don't think the average person reading that article would make the logical leap from free to "I can steal this source code and get away with it," but that's just me.
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  5. Fluff by rbochan · · Score: 3, Informative

    What a godawful format. This is 2007, our web browsers have scrollbars for a reason. It's like a damn PPT, but with ads. Though, I suppose that's no surprise with articles like "Top ten geek haircuts" and "Top ten off switches". And no, I'm not kidding.
    Journalistic integrity, thy name is CNET.

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  6. Bigger list by theantipop · · Score: 4, Informative

    For Windows users, here is a fairly comprehensive list of useful software, the vast majority of which is free (as in beer). The list is a bit unwieldy and unevenly updated, but I've snagged a few useful programs by browsing through it recently so I think it's pretty useful for those looking to get off unnecessary commercial apps.

  7. Be careful with the free statement by PinternetGroper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And this point is worth reiterating: open-source software is free. No cost. Zero. Zilch.'"
    Be careful with this statement. Some people consider software that costs nothing to be of lesser quality or to have something wrong with it. A coworker went to Staples and purchased a version of McAfee for home, even after I told her AVG would do everything she wanted it to, and for free. I got the impression that she didn't think something that didn't cost anything would be able to do what she wanted...
    1. Re:Be careful with the free statement by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Whenever I talk about AVG, I make sure to mention that they only charge for commercial licenses and that while I use the free version at home, I've paid for a commercial license for work. That might make it sound more reassuring to some people.

    2. Re:Be careful with the free statement by sootman · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Be careful with this statement.

      Good point. But...

      A coworker went to Staples and purchased a version of McAfee for home, even after I told her AVG would do everything she wanted it to, and for free. I got the impression that she didn't think something that didn't cost anything would be able to do what she wanted...

      Too bad. You missed a great opportunity--you should have sold her a copy! No, I'm not being a smartass and saying you should have taken advantage of her. Well, actually, I guess I am--not being a smartass, but it seems that some people insist on being taken advantage of, and she evidently is one of them.* If they insist on burning money, you might as well help them put that money to good use! From http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

      Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible -- just enough to cover the cost. Actually we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please read on. ...

      Since free software is not a matter of price, a low price isn't more free, or closer to free. So if you are redistributing copies of free software, you might as well charge a substantial fee [emphasis mine] and make some money [emphasis theirs]. Redistributing free software is a good and legitimate activity; if you do it, you might as well make a profit from it.

      Free software is a community project, and everyone who depends on it ought to look for ways to contribute to building the community. For a distributor, the way to do this is to give a part of the profit to the Free Software Foundation or some other free software development project. By funding development, you can advance the world of free software.

      Distributing free software is an opportunity to raise funds for development. Don't waste it! [emphasis theirs, but I agree. :-) ]
      And, in case it wasn't clear up until now: "In order to contribute funds, you need to have some extra. If you charge too low a fee, you won't have anything to spare to support development."

      So charge as much as you can! Hell, charge more than the commercial offering and throw in some support. And if you've got a guilty conscience, a) get over it or b) send some money to the FSF. If you really don't need money, tell them you're an "authorized distributor" and they can make a check out to "FSF" with the name of the software in the memo line.

      Richard Stallman wants software to be capital-F-Free, as in hackable, usable, modifiable. I don't think he has ever once said that people should give away their time. If you're spending your time extolling the virtues of Free software, you should get paid!

      * See also the recent thread about the $199 WalMart PC that is in a bigger-than-needed case because people think bigger == better. The last thing I need is another fullsize tower, but I would have bought one in a second if it were the size of a Shuttle PC.
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  8. Don't offer bad alternatives by athloi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If OSS is to thrive, it needs to not offer worse alternatives, and by so doing, convince people that OSS is unreliable.

    No matter what people who wish it were otherwise say, OpenOffice is a piece of junk. It's huge. It's buggy. It has difficulties using other formats. It explodes frequently. It requires massive Java-ware installed on the machines of otherwise happily non-bloated users. It's worse than anything Microsoft has shipped.

    Point people toward Abiword, or point them toward Google apps, but don't push that piece of junk on them, unless you want to cement in their minds the idea that "free but inferior" is the definition of open source.

    Thank you.

    1. Re:Don't offer bad alternatives by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anything that crosses paths with any MS based format will explode at some time, just as the very MS software that created it has done before.

      And.. Java is now bad. It works well in my opinion. Too bad it doesn't work for you.

      As a first-hand look at OO, it works for me. Ive used it since it was StarOffice. It always works on their own files and only has problems when you try to open hidden formatted files.

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    2. Re:Don't offer bad alternatives by Synchis · · Score: 3, Informative

      No matter what people who wish it were otherwise say, OpenOffice is a piece of junk. It's huge. It's buggy. It has difficulties using other formats. It explodes frequently. It requires massive Java-ware installed on the machines of otherwise happily non-bloated users. It's worse than anything Microsoft has shipped. I'm having trouble with this comment... for a number of reasons:

      1. You *almost* sound like you were paid to write that.

      2. Your statement is inaccurate on many levels.

      3. You provide no basis for your opinion. Care to back up your statement with some evidence?

      Every experience that I've had with OpenOffice has been a good one. Its fast, provides all the features that I'm looking for without being too bloated, and sometimes handles the Microsoft formats better than even MS Office does. I hazard to suggest that if OpenOffice was as bad as you suggest, that Cannonical would not have picked it as Productivity app of choice for Ubuntu. And I believe a fair number of other distro's provide it as well.

      Before posting a bash like that against an open source project on an open source oriented web site, you should probably have something to back up your statements. Otherwise, your just blowing hot air out your arse.
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  9. Re:Gimp vs Photoshop? by Goaway · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's no need to dig even particularly deep, Gimp is far, far behind Photoshop in terms of functionality.

    If all you do is crop and polish the occasional JPEG from your digital camera, you might not notice. But if you're any kind of professional, Gimp is a joke.

    And even with Photoshop not exactly being a paragon of good interface design, Gimp manages to be much, much worse.

  10. Hard drive on grass photo by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, it is quite appropriate.
    It has been an long, hard drive to for the developers to get the software out in the open - and they did it all while on grass.

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  11. Free? by Jake73 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not all open-source software is completely free.

    I use Open Office extensively and have never installed MS Office despite having an MSDN subscription which provides it for "free" for the last 5 yrs. I do this out of principle, but this decision has cost me. There are incompatibilities present that have cost me time and effort.

    I own Adobe Photoshop because Gimp would cost me dearly in time and effort. I've tried many times, but Gimp is really not a PS replacement.

    And while Linux is "free" and my company's products support it, the userbase is comparatively small to our Windows base and the costs of using it, learning it, keeping up with it, and maintaining product support are astronomical (per user capita) compared to Windows.

    That said, there are a huge number of open-source packages that are not only free but save me an enormous amount of time and effort. Thunderbird is far more time-friendly than Outlook has been to me. Firefox. Python. Ruby. Ruby on Rails.

    Others save me money by proxy. My web host uses Open Solaris, for example.

    Open Source software has a very important niche within enterprise and home use. But a large number of the mainstream packages that most home users would use will frustrate those folks with quirks. Some things are only free if you value your time at nothing.

  12. Rather Free AND Legal! by mdm42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Free (as in beer) doesn't really represent a value proposition if you've "pirated" your non-Free software anyway.

    The message that needs to be gotten across is "Free AND Legal". I've had people express complete disbelief in my claim that they can have Legal Copies of software for free (beer) -- to the point where they were pretty sure I was lying or making it up.

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    1. Re:Rather Free AND Legal! by Tatsh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Completely agree. The Windows-world is full of users who would just pirate any commercial software they need (no matter what purpose). Many also end up trying to use at least one open source app at some point, but it in some way fails (eg GIMP has a weird window layout that is a little bit hard to get used to, and on Windows there's no built-in "force windows to stay on top" function). They get rid of it, go back to the commercial software (pirated), and decide to never use free and open source software again.

      It is unfortunate. I think this is one of the more overlooked problems in trying to gain widespread adoption of open source alternatives, even if it is on Winblows.

      I am in university, and the attitude from many first-year CS students I have spoken with is that "Linux sucks", even if they have only used PuTTY on their Winblows boxes to program their small C apps to the server with GCC. And they are all asking "Why not Visual Studio?", which they all have pirated of course. It is ridiculous. They do not believe me about the crappiness of proprietary software, and some even choose to use Vista just because it is the "latest".

    2. Re:Rather Free AND Legal! by edwdig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many also end up trying to use at least one open source app at some point, but it in some way fails (eg GIMP has a weird window layout that is a little bit hard to get used to, and on Windows there's no built-in "force windows to stay on top" function).

      That right there is the problem. GIMP isn't just a little weird. It's off in its own world. Most GIMP defenders write it off and say "use a better window manager", but the reality is it just doesn't play well with the normal usage patterns most window managers are coded for. And of course it's a much bigger issue on Windows, where you can't change the UI.

      Don't blame the user for not understanding when you throw something at them that works totally differently than every other program they've ever seen.

      And they are all asking "Why not Visual Studio?", which they all have pirated of course.

      Why pirate it? It's free unless you want the high end editions. If you're the type of person who doesn't know why they should or shouldn't be using Visual Studio, you don't need the versions that cost money.

      They do not believe me about the crappiness of proprietary software

      Because to most people, especially home users, it doesn't matter. Most of them would never be able to do anything with the source code, nor would they have the money to pay someone who could. And they like having a company to call for support.

      Proprietary data formats, however, are a completely different story. Those are bad for everyone but the maker of the software.

    3. Re:Rather Free AND Legal! by Cjstone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is why Microsoft/Adobe/everybody stepping up anti-piracy measures is a good thing for the Open-Source movement.

    4. Re:Rather Free AND Legal! by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've seen a lot of OSS zelots not give commercial software a try, and just rant against it for no good/valid reason, just as I've seen people blindly flock to closed source software over free-as-in-beer open source because "people actually pay for it, it must be better". Neither is a good mentality. Both sets of software have their advantages. I am a free software zealot, probably you were talking about people like me, too.
      About trying "commercial" software, I spent last week trying commercial free software, I think you mean "proprietary" software, as in "non-free", or "non-open-source". There are valid reasons not to try proprietary software. There are technical reasons to reject some stuff just based on their licenses, for example integration issues. Strategical reasons too, licenses are more important than the quality of the actual product most of the time, because they establish your future relationship with it. Anyhow, ethical reasons should be enough. Just because some people might think ethics are not important in some context it doesn't mean they are not valid reasons.
  13. Technical Communication is your specialty? by expro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about objectivity?

    I know a number of businesses and private people who use Open Office every day exchanging documents with others without a hitch, whereas I have never heard of anyone who gave it up because it was huge, buggy, or had difficulty using other formats.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but Open Office is a very beautiful thing for everyone I know personally who has ever tried it.

  14. VLC by Re-Pawn · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wanted to post a comment on the article but comments appear to be locked - VLC does have streaming radio and video via Shoutcast - not sure if the writer has used VLC for anything other than DVDs or opening a media file. As far as using an iPod I have switched over to Floola to manage my library and podcasts on my mini - it works in Linux as well as OSX and Windows.

  15. Re:while pidgin is great by SCHecklerX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't that called email?

  16. Re:Gimp vs Photoshop? by ShawnCplus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The same can be said conversely. I've used GIMP for 3-4 years and just looking at Photoshop makes my eyes bleed. We've used our preferred software so long the "opposition" looks ugly and unintuitive by comparison.

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  17. It's free except when... by flyingrobots · · Score: 2, Insightful

    time is money.

  18. Bravo! by Synchis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since the author of TFA has apparently closed off comments for now, I'll state it here:

    Bravo. It's nice to see a main-stream media outlet offering this kind of coverage of FOSS.

    I've experimented with FOSS for a long time, and have wanted to switch for many years. Last spring, I did, once and for all. I now use Ubuntu 7.10 on my home system, even for gaming. (I was surprised to find that many companies are offering a Linux version as well as Windows.)

    In my opinion, meny FOSS projects are ready for the main-stream. They simply need some good publicity, and a following.

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  19. Re:Misleading Story Content by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes; but if some big company is selling a piece of GPL software for £5000 a copy, there's nothing stopping me and 999 other people each stumping up a Lady Godiva and buying one copy between us all. The licence, which comes from the author and not the vendor, allows all 1000 of us to make as many unaltered copies as we want of that software; so we can quite legally install it 1000 times. And then each of us can install it on five other people's computers, charge them a quid and recoup our initial outlay :)

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  20. Re:FOSS by j-pimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, this guy and I share about the same outlook. I've searched Sourceforge for a neat OSS project to use and found that 90% of the projects I find have no source code available, and don't look like they're at all active. There's a neat description which is what originally lured me to the project, but there's no software or source of any kind available.

    I think that is a failing of source forge and not open source. Anyone can register an open source project on source forge. It will get deleted after a while if you let it completely stagnate. The problem is, in generally, everyone forgets your failures and remember your successes. If you search sourceforge, you have to wad through everyones failures.

    There are a million closed source failures. There is just no way to search for them all. They either are on someone hard drive or deleted. If you have trouble wadding through the open source failures, I would suggest you use Google as it will rank the results better and you will get non sourceforge hosted projects.

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  21. Thoughts About Perceived Value and Open Source by Anlace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First a bit of background, I am a general all-around tech support person for an island with a population of approximately 15,000 people (on the South end of the island). Most of my clients are either retired and/or are tech-shy.

    As a dedicated user of Open Source software I consistently advocate it to my clients as a solution for many of their needs. The attitude that I run into time and time again that if you are not paying out the wazoo for software then it can't be any good. Many won't even try a piece of software unless they pay for it.

    I have taken to creating a DVD or CDs of Open Source programs (particularly OpenOffice.org), charging for them and donating that money back to the respective project. It's a system that seems to be working for everyone - clients feel they are getting something valuable because they paid for it and the projects are getting much needed donation money.

  22. Forget promoting Linux by DrXym · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Linux is still not suitable for most users - it's usable but there are still too many rough edges. A simple example is a bug that bit me today was when I ran my new Asus Eee PC for the first time - the thing does not like wifi WPA PSK passphrases that contain space characters. Consequently it dumped out a corrupted config file and didn't connect. It took me a while to figure this out from a Linux dist which simpler than most others.

    Expecting people to switch en masse is not reasonable until the UI is completely idiot proof and requires no advanced diagnostic. Even Ubuntu is not there yet.

    A better strategy is to promote open source software running on Windows. Firefox, Thunderbird, Gimp, Open Office etc. all run on Windows. Introduce users to these great apps and allow them to use them at their own pace. They can even run the open source apps side by side with the MS equivalents if they like. Since most open source apps run on Windows and Linux, it means the underlying OS is of less relevance.

    Later when Linux for the desktop is more mature they can be tempted to move. It may even be that Dell / Compaq etc. off cheap machines with Linux on them. If the apps are the same then the pain in moving is so much less.

  23. Re:Misleading Story Content by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, but they don't have to provide the Source gratis to anyone who hasn't already got a binary from them -- they could legitimately demand to see your purchase receipt before they gave you the Source Code. Or the £5000 could be for a disc (or set of discs) containing the binary and the Source.

    What they can't do is charge £5000 for the binary and then another £5000 for the source -- additional charges for the Source Code are limited to covering cost of media and delivery.

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  24. Joe Public doesn't care about free as in speech... by Rick+Genter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...when it comes to FOSS. They do care about free as in beer.

    (This is in response to the tag freespeechisnotfreebeer.)

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  25. Re:WTF? What does C|Net know about FOSS?? by Arccot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft Office comes with Outlook, which is vital for most business users. For this reason, OpenOffice isn't an alternative to Microsoft's corporate solutions.

    Ever hear of THUNDERBIRD?!??

    It doesn't have the scheduling capabilities of Outlook and doesn't automatically set up Exchange accounts like Outlook, along with a number of other useful corporate features. Most of which would have to be provided by other programs.

    The point of the article is an intro to free OSS for average computer users or corporate environments. CNet is trying to make the transition as smooth as possible. A business isn't interested in replacing their relatively inexpensive multi-user Office license with 3+ different programs and investing the time in retraining and support. It's simply not a cost effective way of doing business. And that's the bottom line for most businesses.
  26. Re:Round up the usual suspects by ldj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was quite a success and a reminder that to most folks OpenOffice.org is a ticket to nowhere.

    Wow, what an astounding example of misinterpretation of the given information. A low-cost course in MS Office is quite a success, so you interpret that to mean OpenOffice is "a ticket to nowhere" to "most folks." So if a course in OpenOffice has good attendance, would that be a sign that MS Office is "a ticket to nowhere?"

    Whether you like to admit it or not, there is room in the marketplace for more than one office suite. And OpenOffice is growing in popularity as more people become aware of its existence. Most folks aren't even aware of OpenOffice, and I would say that is the main reason its uptake hasn't been faster. But as I noted, its usage grows nonetheless.

    The same argument holds for FOSS applications in all of the other categories. You may not like them, but there are plenty of others who have embraced them wholeheartedly and are introducing them to friends and family at a growing rate.

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    Open Source: I'll show you mine if you show me yours.