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How Do You Find New Non-RIAA Music?

burgundysizzle writes "Given the general reaction to the RIAA in comments, I assume that there are a number of users that try not to buy from RIAA sources. What alternatives do you use - or more importantly - what methods do you use to discover alternative sources of music? I use Sellaband.com (some free legal music available) and Amiestreet.com (new music is free and most music really cheap) to find new music, but I'm always on the lookout for interesting sites to discover new music. Tell me about your experiences and any other interesting places you get new music from. I'm looking for inexpensive, and legal."

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  1. Riaa-Radar by excelblue · · Score: 5, Informative

    I use the site http://www.riaaradar.com./

    It has a listing of many mainstream albums and shows whether or not they are published by the RIAA.

    I usually look through their RIAA-free lists and see if there's anything I'm interested in.

    1. Re:Riaa-Radar by Kris_J · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Riaa-Radar by RobertM1968 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem I have with the RIAARadar site is that it does not correctly attribute the appropriate record label and appropriate distribution company to many artists...

      One such is Iron Maiden, who releases their music through one of their own labels (ie: formerly Sanctuary), but like most bands who are not RIAA members, and who (like them) are vehemently against the RIAA tactics, the CD production/distribution is done by a big label.

      Thus, in their case (Iron Maiden's) and many other artists, the information is misleading, and people will be misinformed as to the band's actual status, feelings about the RIAA, and who their real record label is.

      And yes (before someone asks) I did submit (multiple times) the correct info to them, including numerous links to support my claims, and they still have ignored it - after months since my last submission to them.

      If they were more pro-active in correcting their listings (especially after being provided numerous supporting links, etc, making the job easy), their site would be quite useful... heck, if they did ANYTHING to correct their listings (other than send an automated confirmation saying "thanks for the info") it would be nice.

    3. Re:Riaa-Radar by Jake+Dodgie · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know too much about the rest of the world, but for new australian music downloads I go to

      http://www.triplejunearthed.com/

      and

      http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/mp3s.htm

      Both sites are run by the local government (read tapayer) funded youth network radio station and aussie music rips the rest of the world to pieces.

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  2. I grab mine by Splab · · Score: 4, Informative

    when bands play in the local student bar. Usually indie labels, often burned copies so you know quite a lot of the money goes directly to the band.

    1. Re:I grab mine by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's something very satisfying about handing the money directly to the musician on the CD.

      Then there's something pleasantly surprising when said musician says "If you like it, and want to do us a favor, make as many copies as you want, and give them to your friends" after handing you the CD.

      And If you legitimately don't have the $10 they're selling the CD for, they'll usually give you the CD for however much money it takes to buy gas to get back home.

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    2. Re:I grab mine by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Amen to the "gas money" comment.

      About three months ago, I had a "discussion" with someone who claimed that piracy would be the end of the music industry and that no one would want to play music anymore. My assertions that real musicians (and I know quite a few) just want people to listen to their music. They'll work a day job, go without eating, or do anything else it takes to keep playing in front of groups was dismissed. In my experience, the guitar/bass/sax/whatever is always the last thing to get hocked and the first thing to come out of the pawn shop.

      Real musicians play for the people, not the money. They always have and they always will. This fifty-year invention of the rock star lifestyle is just a fad.

      Speaking of that, the movie Rock Star with Mark Wahlberg has an interesting opinion on that. Paraphrased. "You've got to start drinking and sleeping with women. Live the lifestyle. Be sexy. Then the women will want you, and come to your concerts. That'll make the guys want to come, and it's the guys that buy the album." (I lookes for the exact quote, but couldn't find it.

      By the way, I use http://jamendo.com/ to get almost all my music. Current favorites are:
      • Antarhes
      • Brad Sucks, and
      • invain There's also a ton of decent blues, though most is in French or Italian.
  3. Web Radio by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most of the new stuff I encounter is from places like SomaFM. Most (all?) of the stuff they play is from indie labels and unsigned bands, and I can listen passively, which means I get decent background tunes while I work, and if I hear something I like, I can take a look at my stream player to see who the artist is and investigate from there.

    Basically, I'm lazy, so why not let someone else send the music to me? :)

  4. Jamendo.com by tehniobium · · Score: 5, Informative

    I strongly recommend jamendo.com...there is a lot of good music (especially if you are a electronica/indie sound rock fan Its all 100% freely downloadable from .torrent or emule, and usually covered by some kind of permissive license (making it free beer and freedom). The site was started by french people so a lot of the music is from french bands, however lately stuff is being submitted by people from all over the world. A couple of good picks from jamendo: SGX - Synesthetic, White Light Riot - Atomism and of course the widely famous t r y ^ d. Check it out!

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  5. college radio by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Listen to college radio stations, which is a whole lot easier now thanks to the internet. No, it's not all indie rock. Most stations have a wide variety of specialty shows, so you can become exposed to lesser known bands in nearly any genre--bluegrass, folk, country, j-pop, classical, avant garde/experimental, hip hop, dance, etc etc etc. And when their pledge drives come around, make a donation and support them!

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    1. Re:college radio by OAB_X · · Score: 5, Informative

      I listen to CBC Radio 3 (the Canadian equivalent to BBC Radio 6(uk), TripleJ (aus), and the NPR music shows).
      Oh, and it's good.

      http://radio3.cbc.ca/

      Also found in the "Alternative" and "Public" directories of the iTunes 'radio' section tab.

  6. Archive.org has some pretty good live stuff. by tetrahedrassface · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have found that archive.org has some pretty good live stuff, especially if you are looking for a particular song and honestly I like hearing the live recordings of people I have never heard of before. So i hit archive a pretty good bit. It was sad when a lot of the soundboards were pulled for some of the bigger bands (like the Dead etc), however a lot of smaller groups still release really good stuff. For the most part its archive for me, and some lastfm with the occasional visit to magnatune..

  7. Re:Go away, you're not 21 by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you think of anything that under-21s can do that's as effective?

    Go to all ages shows. Even places that serve alcohol will put on earlier all ages shows if there's enough demand.

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  8. Well by El+Lobo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I listen to what I like, be it from RIIA , alternative or from my out of tune neighbour... And no, I will not let the politics affect my life in that way. No way I'll miss the next Iron Maiden DVD just because their record company is part of the RIIA, the Vatican or the Holy Spirit.

    If I don't like the politics from some party, coorporation, economical or religious group, I try to find a way to protest without affecting my life. Imagine if I would veto everything I dislike. I wouldn't drive a car (oil producing country often suck major dictatures), eat meat (poor cows), miss a manowar record (Riia), drink a beer (alcohol monopoly in sweden). etc...

    But hey, don't let my rants discorage you to listen to what you want...

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    1. Re:Well by DM9290 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I try to find a way to protest without affecting my life. "

      People like you are the problem in the world.

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  9. How funny by yerktoader · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just looked up Rage Against the Machine on RIAA Radar. Every album except one was released by a RIAA affiliate.

    Hilarious.

    1. Re:How funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention that their music sucks festering goat balls.

  10. Project Playlist? by kermit1221 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just started poking around http://www.projectplaylist.com/ Don't know yet if it's worth much or not, but it might be worth a try.

    I hate to admit I use it at all, but the music on myspace has some okay stuff. Just poke around the bands' pages and see what you get. Find a local band you may or may not know and follow their "friends" links, especially some of the smaller show producers and such. If you like metal, start with http://www.myspace.com/coldethylmusic (shameless plug, my tattoo artist is the drummer).

  11. C=64 remixes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://remix.kwed.org/

    Is great source for a lot of nice remixes of old C= 64 games.

    1. Re:C=64 remixes by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Also Amiga tunes get remixed.
      And it should be noted in a variety of styles, not just techno remixes. Visa Roster do acapella covers with their version of Internation Karate being brilliant, Romeo Knight has a ph4t cover of the ballblazer tune with beastie boys vox, Machinae Supremacy started off with a wicked metal/rock cover of great giana sisters and have since done sound tracks to games, and Moog's version of Tristess is just breathtakingly emotive. I should rave on about all the other great talented remixes there, but I should get back to work.

      And a big plus there are links to album/song reviews and a sales area.

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  12. Magnatune by entgod · · Score: 3, Informative

    I like magnatune, lets you listen to the music with descent quality befor buying it (in vorbis/mp3/flac/wav) for a custom price of which 50% goes to the artist. You're also allowed to share the music with a couple of friends.

  13. Re:Go away, you're not 21 by OAB_X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's an understatement to call the Montreal scene great. It's certainly the best scene in Canada, and one of the top 5 in North America.

  14. What I do by br00tus · · Score: 3, Informative
    At work I do not listen to a lot of music, but sometimes there is a lot of noise in the next cubicle, so I put in earphones and listen to music. I do not want to have any MP3's that the RIAA might complain about on my PC at work, since listening to so-and-so is not worth it for me in possibly getting in trouble at work. One thing I do do though is go to YouTube and load music videos of different groups. Usually I am not even watching the video, I'm just listening.


    In terms of MP3's on my work PC, I usually go to Google and type things like "Beethoven mp3" or "Bach mp3" or "Chopin mp3" or the like. All of the recordings I've downloaded have been free. It is not that difficult to produce this stuff - all you need to make a Chopin mp3 is a piano, a microphone and someone who can play Chopin decently. Plenty of people can. Not all of it is amateur though, I've downloaded fine recordings from professional orchestras for free as well. One of the top Google links I get is Classical Cat - the free classical music "cat-alogue".

  15. Mailinglists and CD Baby by savala · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm subscribed to a reasonable active mailing list for the type of music I like (characterized by words like: female, singer-songwriter, alternative, ethereal, celtic, eclectic, folk, americana - although obviously not all at the same time; think artists in the range of Björk, Sarah McLachlan, Loreena McKennit, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Cocteau Twins - although that pretty much exhausts the list of big names, and 95% of our conversation is about independent artists who (imo) sound far better than most of those, but whose names you'll never have heard of), where people constantly toss out new interesting names they've just discovered, and write about shows they attended. (The name of the mailinglist is ecto.)

    CD Baby with its decent 2-minute samples and rather good "sounds like" comparisons is another way I've used to discover new music. All artists listed here are independent.

    Opening acts at concerts of artists I already like also frequently turn out to be worthwhile in their own right. That's not a very swift way to get to know new artists, but it does add up over time.

    Finally, every other year or so I get together (in the real world) with a group of people from the mailinglist, and we all bring the worthwhile CDs we've bought since the last such meet, which we play for each other throughout the day. We also make sampler CDs for each other, so we can all go back and re-listen to those things which caught our interest and remember "oh yeah, that sounded really good, I need to go and buy that".

  16. hand-picked list by AlgorithMan · · Score: 5, Informative
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  17. Re:Go away, you're not 21 by Splab · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, move to a different country :)

    From Denmark, legal drinking age is 18 (in bars, you can buy alcohol at the age of 15 in supermarkets), but if you don't drink we (the student bar) often allow minors in to see the music.

  18. Re:Go away, you're not 21 by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Get the hell out of Fort Wayne' is sounding like a good plan.

  19. emusic + netlabels by botio · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hi,
    My main sources for music are emusic.com which sells great independent artists for cheap and DRM free,
    and some netlabels in particular thinner/autoplate http://www.thinner.cc/ that is simply amazing.

  20. Archive.org also has some good original stuff by zoeblade · · Score: 4, Informative

    Amongst a lot of other good things (such as incremental backups of the worldwide web), archive.org also hosts a lot of music by various netlabels. This gives you access to much more good music than you're likely to have time to listen to, in a variety of genres. In particular, the chiptune inspired dance music of the label 8bitpeoples should go down well with the Slashdot crowd.