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Rare Soviet Retro-Future Space Art

abramsv writes "A collection of the most inspiring and hard-to-find retro-futuristic graphics from rather unlikely sources: Soviet & Eastern Bloc 'popular tech & science' magazines, German, Italian, British fantastic illustrations and promotional literature — all from the Golden Age of Retro-Future (1930s to 1970s)."

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  1. Re:obvious by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny

    The present was so much cooler in the past...

  2. Verb? by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ok, Dawson, it's late; but can't you put a verb in there someplace?

    1. Re:Verb? by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

      A reply most insightful. Nice presentation, concise.

      All from Slashdot.

  3. Unlikely sources?! by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why "unlikely sources"?! The Russians were the first in space after all.

    1. Re:Unlikely sources?! by evanbd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      80km was the burnout altitude, not the peak altitude. It kept going up (coasting) after engine shutdown. Since it was a missile, it was a shallow trajectory, so it didn't go up a *lot* beyond that. I'm having trouble finding clear information on whether any of the German flights actually broke the 100km number. It is quite clear that the V-2 was capable of reaching space (if fired vertically); the US fired a large number of unmodified and slightly modified captured V-2 rockets shortly after the war. The third test on May 10, 1944 reached 112km altitude; some of the later launches went as high as 180km.

  4. Futuristing predictions are depressing. by Thanshin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Those images are sad. It's so easy to imagine the future, and so hard to reach it...

    It's depressing to think we'll be long dead before humanity finally understands the universe.

    Space travel, immortality, living in far planets, knowing the origin and the end of all, and, most of all, contacting an alien intelligence and culture if there is one.

    However, I do feel lucky for living in an era of enlightenment and fast technological evolution. A mere two or three centuries in the past, I'd have seen the same advance in all my life as I can in a modern decade.

    1. Re:Futuristing predictions are depressing. by vwjeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those images are not sad, they are wonderful. Images like those show hope and imagination. What's sad is looking at a generation of individuals (including me) that do not dream about exploration.

    2. Re:Futuristing predictions are depressing. by SCHecklerX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I blame personal computers and the Internet. Focus has shifted from artistic dreaming around future engineering (even to the point where you would use a computer not connected to a network, creativity with the computer was still much higher than it is today, since you came up with your own ideas, rather than looking it up on the internet) to instant messaging and web pages. I, too, am guilty of this as a guy who followed his childhood dreams up to even getting the degree in Aerospace Engineering, but then discovering the Internet, and ending up going down the network security analyst career path. It's still sort of creative, but nothing compared to what I dreamed I'd be designing when I was just a kid.

  5. Imaginative... by gethoht · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What happened to mankind's fascination with space? These pictures are awesome to me not because of their scientific validity, but because they are a reflection of the way that mankind used to dream of the stars.

    While great sci-fi is by no means limited to a distant past(thank you gaiman, stephenson, etc...), it is seems that space travel just isn't that romanticized in today's cultures. Have we stopped dreaming of an extraordinary not-so-distant future?

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    1. Re:Imaginative... by Racemaniac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      hurray for short term thinking...
      at the current pace, there won't be any money to be made there for a long long time...

    2. Re:Imaginative... by FST777 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Cold War is over.

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    3. Re:Imaginative... by tgd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What happened? For a long time people's lives were getting better as time progressed. Life was easier, less stressful, healthier. Science and technology were improving the world in very real ways that were visible to people all the time.

      Now we live in a polluted world of mass-media violence, government oppression; people have lost all the power they believed they once had. Education is not valued; the long term doesn't matter.

      When those "retrofuture" pieces were being produced, there was a real sense around the world that tomorrow was going to be better than today.

      Who here honestly thinks tomorrow is going to be better than today? Who here honestly thinks their kids are going to live in a world better than we are?

      That sort of mass human space exploration was a powerful vision of where the future was leading back then... whereas these days something between Mad Max and Bladerunner is probably more accurate.

      Times have changed, thats what happened to mankind's fascination with space.

    4. Re:Imaginative... by Sleepy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >What happened to mankind's fascination with space?

      Because in space, there are no runaway ex-CIA generals to capture, and no oil.

      It's revisionist to suggest that the space race had anything to do with science or education or exploration. Sure, 99% of the people WORKING on the project felt so... but it was a military project in civilian clothing. It took a LOT of pressure by NASA workers to get one token scientist on the moon mission... and in one document, he lightheartedly referred to outsider treatment because he was an egghead and not a combat pilot.

      For the price or the Iraq war, we could afford solid missions to the moon and Mars. The damage done to the present and future economy by the neo-cons like Cheney will not be understood until someone else has to pay for it. It is a sad chapter in US history that we elected these neo-cons, who had vested interests in bankrupting the USA and many of which carry "dual passports".

      There will be a space race again all right... led by China. The USA will react, but will be so poor that they have to outsource the shipbuilding.

  6. View of Earth by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did anyone else notice that the only image with a view of Earth still featured the Americas, instead of Mother Russia?

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    1. Re:View of Earth by MrNiCeGUi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are you looking at the same images? Besides that image of the Americas, which does not appear to be from the same set as the rest of the scans, I counted at least two views of Eurasia and one of Australia.

    2. Re:View of Earth by earthpig · · Score: 2, Informative

      there are four earth views that are easily identified.
      "Lunar Unicycle" by Frank Tinsley, 1959 - pacific ocean
      (TM cover, Russia 1953) - Africa Europe
      "Nuclear Rocketship" by Frank Tinsley, 1959 - Africa Europe
      (image credit: retro-futurismus) - Americas

  7. Re:Russian? by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why does the picture which most prominently displays Earth show the American continents, instead of Europe or Asia? It was originally sold as a dart target.
  8. Wrong continent? by aalu.paneer · · Score: 2, Funny

    In http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1128/1058108337_46491e437c_o.jpg, they show North and South America. I would have guessed them showing Eurasia.

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    1. Re:Wrong continent? by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

      They have always shown Eurasia.

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  9. Nostalgia by Pecisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have to admit, although U.S.S.R. and so called "Bolshevism" has written lot of dark pages in history while building "Communism", those dreams about future when humanity together working to defeat universe at least in subjective scale, expressed in these pictures and stories from Stanisaw Lem and other soviet sci-fi writers are which I am more found of. Yes, western sci-fi usually spells more doom and gloom, power of coorporations, profit over science and discovery, etc. Both "schools" have beatiful exceptions, like Lem sci-fi fairy tales or "I, Robot" series by Isaac Asimov. When I think of sci-fi, I usually think of "The Magellanic Cloud". This novel from then-young Lem is something I still fill very exceptional. In Soviet times it was published in so called "Winning Communism edition", but after collapse of Eastern Block it was published in non-tweaked edition, as Lem said first edition was too rosy about communism. What I like about it is that even in old version Lem touches (but only touches) issues of conflict as aims of society vs. aims of personality, as it challenges people who try to reach only closest star system. In some way, it is similar to western sci-fi - it doesn't say anything nice about way the Western lives and how it ends. But as socialist Lem of course tries to provide alternative. Of course, big question is - is this possible.

    Anyway, what I wanted to underline that so called "Socialism in space" was more than propaganda, it had different mind set, and sometimes it was for me as small boy easier to connect to those stories with all scientific stuff and challenges of scientists against their egos and needs. Also they definitely tried to imagine how life of people would be in future, how social and moral elements change - for good, of course. While Western sci-fi (as it holds roots more in Scepticism) bashes human nature and don't find escape from it, however there are lot of funny and hopeful authors. I still wait for sci-fi who would embrace both of these - western and "socialist" styles. That would definitely exciting to read.

    In resume, I really miss sci-fi which could inspire and lift up, not just show future from very pessimistic point of view. Yes, we as humanity has huge issues, starting with problem to lacking people who value humanity over their egos, who work together with others to achieve something. It is not said that everyone should work and live together as brothers, but at least we should not try to kill each other because of small petty differences.

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  10. Re:Russian? by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe it was their way of showing the readers "Those capitalists in North-America are very easy targets from space".

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  11. Tintin inspiration? by Ruben3d · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This image from the article reminds me of Tintin: Explorers on the Moon published in 1954, a year later.

  12. Customer alert by dgun · · Score: 2, Funny

    The x-ray glasses advertised in the back of those science mags don't work.

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  13. Agreed 100% by coder111 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I look at those pictures it makes me sad and very mad at the same time.

    What happened to humanity? We used to dream about bright space future, flying cars, scientific progress and stuff like that. And we had hope to achieve all of this if we put enough effort into it. And now I think we lost that hope.

    I don't see people dreaming about anything more than getting a million dollars and doing 2 chicks at the same time...

    And you can bash soviets all you wish, but they had one thing right- the education was non-religious and pushed belief in sience most of the time. (Well, there were propaganda bits and belief in communist ideals, but these were easily discarded and did not interfere with science). I think soviet union was the first and only truly non-religious state. And that is something to be admired.

    Don't get me wrong. I realize that the technological progress now is faster than it ever was. But you get no rush thinking about it anymore. It is not considered exciting and sexy and bright. It fails to captivate the minds of people. And I think it should be.

    --Coder

    1. Re:Agreed 100% by Stefanwulf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We are in the modern dark ages.

      I'd argue against that. In my lifetime (since the late 1970's) I've seen amazing progress. Cars have started using different engines on a wide scale for the first time since the early 20th century, plausible theories of physics have been advanced to unify quantum mechanics and relativity, and parents walking through the subway have to explain to their young children that all phones used to have cords like the ones on the wall.

      The world has been connected in a way never before seen via the internet, and embedded computers are making AI pervasive, easing many day to day tasks, from a car that parks itself to a phone that knows what word I want to type based on past usage patterns, or a camera that can recognize faces. Those that aren't embedded are displaying their imagery on screens which are not only made of an effectively heatless light source, but one which we are now growing organically. Every day I read stories selected automatically from hundreds of newspapers, and for better or worse robots have begun fighting for us in wartime. I walk around with thousands of hours of music in my pocket, and what's playing can be altered at the touch of a button, even automatically selected to suit my mood.

      The introduction of the FMRI and MRI have allowed us to safely look inside a persons head without opening it up (which if you think about it is truly amazing), and to see with such detail and precision that we can follow distinct tracts of neural connections (diffusion tensor imaging) or watch the patterns of thought activity play across a living human brain (FMRI). The Poincaré Conjecture was proven after stumping mathematicians for a hundred years, and new construction materials are allowing us to build ever grander and more elaborate buildings, of a scale that dwarf the skyscrapers of the previous century. People can don gloves and climb walls like geckos. We have mapped the human genome and brought cloning from conjecture into reality.

      If we go back a bit before my birth, we began to take people's failing organs out and replace them with new ones, or with artificial ones we have made ourselves. Now we can alter blood types and revitalize failing systems with stem cells. If you suffer nerve damage and are rendered blind or deaf, we can wire sensory devices directly into your brain to bypass the affected areas. We have eradicated smallpox and invented plastics, not to mention the introduction of home refrigeration. Containerization revolutionized the shipping industry, allowing me to eat whatever food I want at any time of year, without regard for growing seasons. We understand how continents form, and that the earth moves beneath our feet.

      This is an amazing time, and breakthroughs are happening every day. Many of us just don't see them, because of the sheer volume we encounter, and the rate of change we have become accustomed to.

  14. This brought tears to my eyes by Wiseleo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I recognize quite a few of those illustrations.

    That's what partially inspired me to go into tech in the first place. I wanted to make those images a reality.

    An interesting piece of trivia - pictures credited with TM were published by the official magazine of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. This magazine was targeted at teens. Among other things, we had ZX80 source listings, MK61 programmable calculator listings, and so forth. Those were simple games that I would have to painstakingly type in on my MK61 calculator in RPN notation. Yet they taught me the principles of directly addressing a microprocessor. I had a subscription to many of these magazines since I was 5. Yet now in US we are experiencing a rapid decline in science education. It sounds unthinkable that Whitehouse would sponsor something like this, even though the expense would be trivial and would promote agencies like NASA. Something needs to happen before we wind up a 3rd world country due to lack of science, lack of big dreams, and apathy. That's precisely what USSR did. Even though the scientists were paid miserly wages, the children were inspired to get involved in building the future. I don't ever see big dreams promoted in the US. Everything is compartmentalized, processed, antisocial, and really not inspiring.

    I will own several of the technological marvels such as flying cars within a few years. I will do it because I still have dreams and still remember what inspired me. But will others? Or will they be toiling away in overwhelming debt unable to see through the haze of daily stress? The only thing I can think of that is good for science and inspiration lately is Mythbusters. That's my opinion, but it probably made more than a few kids curious about chemistry at the very least.

    This is so sad that it brought tears to my eyes.

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    1. Re:This brought tears to my eyes by KnowledgeKeeper · · Score: 2, Funny

      Comrade Knyshov, so this is where you ended up. We 've been looking for you.

      :)

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  15. Notice by hey! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Notice how few of these images center on a single individual. Mostly they are space-scapes or pictures of massive engineering projects in which people are tiny figures like in an architect's model, if they appear at all.

    There's only one image that would be typical of a US sci fi magazine cover, with the handsome space pioneer man in the foreground and his female counterpart in the background. Even so, there is little suggestion that the pioneer man plays a key role as an individual in whatever action is being depicted.

    This might be an artifact of selection, but it's tempting to speculate that this reflects a collectivist view of the future. Still, I have a certain kitschy fondness for Socialist Realism school of art, and many such works do use an heroic individual as a focal point -- albeit either an anonymous one or a historical hero like Lenin. Arguably in either case, Socialist Realism uses the individual functioning as a representative of the working class.

    These images are quite austere and free of any hint of individuality as a focal point in the imagined future.

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  16. Interesting, the ideal of female equality by Jim+in+Buffalo · · Score: 2, Informative

    One thing you can say about the Soviets, they had among their ideals equality between the sexes.

    In one of the paintings there's a woman standing next to a man, and they're both wearing the same outfit and appear to be equals in the space endeavor, which is a far cry from how space exploration was portrayed in the USA, with only white men permitted to go anywhere near a spaceship.

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  17. Re:obvious by shvytejimas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > The present was so much cooler in the past... This reminded me of one gallery with soviet architecture - colossal projects that were never built. http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/03e.htm - not really space art but very retro-futuristic nevertheless.

  18. Re:More by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what other coolness have the Russians been hiding behind their backs? I have very reliable sources that have revealed that the Soviets built an underground moon base in the 70s. The entrance is in a crater and not visible from above. They lost radio contact sometime in the late 80s, and the cosmonauts living there don't know the Cold War is over. Vladimir Putin knows about this base and wants to utilize it in his master plan to resurrect the Soviet Union.
  19. Why is this a surprise? by $criptah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been living in the States for many years and one thing still puzzles me: Americans know so little about their former enemy. Why is this space art is such a surprise? Do you really believe that all Soviets did was related to drinking vodka and breaking backs in Gulag? Soviet Union had art, music and science. Are you aware of the fact that most Soviet high schools taught organic chemistry in the 10th and 11th grades? Please spare me "but what about the food lines" statements. The system screwed the people beyond belief and there was little that even smart people could do about the political aspect of the country.

    Years ago I recall a question from one of American high school students, "Do bears run on streets in Russia?" I thought that the person was kidding. No, this was a serious question. Apparently the student thought that Soviet/Russian cities (the terms that he used as synonyms) were full of bears and vodka drinking hunters with bad manners. The insulting part was that this question came from somebody who knew nothing about chemistry, physics or calculus in his junior year of high school. We did not have bears, but we had Z80s, programmable calculators, home grown vector processors (Elbrus) and enough nukes to destroy the world. You know, the usual items found in half-way houses :)

    Those who are interested in the subject of art and space may want to read up on Alexey Leonov. He summarized his experiences in space in a book and many drawings. Check out the wiki. I am not sure if any copies of Technical Molodezhi (Technology of the Youth) were translated into English, but it was a really neat magazine. I started reading it as soon as I could read and understand some of the basic concepts. Think of Popular Science + Popular Mechanics + various news articles related to physical sciences combined in one package.

    1. Re:Why is this a surprise? by $criptah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do not be hard on yourself. Soviet propaganda managed to taint the image of Americans quite well :) However, I did have higher expectations for the United States because this was the leader of the free world.

      You did not have to go far enough to realize that Soviet Union had issues. Food shortages, poor housing management and never ending agricultural dilemmas were hidden behind clever marketing of the Communist Party. Despite all of that, the Soviets still managed to put a man in space and run a successful weapons program. Overall the country managed to achieve certain success and I could only wonder what the United States could do given the fact that every American family have an opportunity to buy a house, a car and have a swimming pool in the backyard. I thought that Americans would be the first ones to get flying cars and definitely make it to Mars by the year 2000. It took about a year of living in the U.S. to prove this otherwise. While pro-Soviet propaganda blasted us from the early age, in the back of my mind I've always held the States to a higher standard. Americans had Levi's, Fords and vacations in Hawaii while most of the Soviet citizens would consider themselves to be lucky to go abroad to one of the bordering countries.

      I hope that his is behind us. If there is a new Cold War I'd like to stop the Earth and get off it.

  20. American vs. Soviet sci-fi by konberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you compare the American and Soviet science fiction, you will see that American sci-fi novels very often (if not always) carry some military theme or references (invasions, interstellar wars, presence of military personnel and advanced warfare on space ships, etc.), while Soviet and Eastern-bloc writers focus mostly on difficulties of space exploration, daily routines of colonization of other planets, and always promote peaceful resolution of interplanetary conflicts. IMHO.