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Sun Offers Reward Program to Boost Open Source Effort

e5rebel writes to tell us that Sun Microsystems has announced they they will be creating a reward program in order to compensate open source programmers for their work in a hope to boost open source efforts. The program will involve communities like OpenSolaris, GlassFish, OpenJDK, OpenSPARC, NetBeans, and OpenOffice.org according to Simon Phipps, Sun's open source officer. "Phipps' post comes some months after Rich Green, Sun's executive vice president of software, voiced skepticism over the open-source status quo, where developers who contribute to various efforts go uncompensated while corporations are enriched. 'It really is a worrisome social artifact,' Green said at the time. 'I think in the long term that this is a worrisome scenario [and] not sustainable. We are looking very closely at compensating people for the work that they do.'"

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  1. Re:Please don't by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Funny

    The answer, of course, is that corporations should not be permitted to make a profit. That was the intention behind establishing corporations in the first place, that they be a limited liability group that makes no profit and whose sole justification for existence is that they perform a public good.

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  2. Re:Monetization of labor by FredDC · · Score: 3, Funny

    one who is forced to post AC lest my employer learn of my hobby
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  3. Most open source will come from India??? by bn0p · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On reading the article the main thing that jumped out at me was the assumption that Sun, or at least Simon Phipps, believes that most open source programming will be done in India.

    Why would we outsource open source software? Is there really that little interest in FOSS in the US, EU, etc.?


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    1. Re:Most open source will come from India??? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      On reading the article the main thing that jumped out at me was the assumption that Sun, or at least Simon Phipps, believes that most open source programming will be done in India. Shit! First they outsource our paying jobs to India, now they want to outsource our hobbies there, too?!

      Does anyone know where can I contribute money to help revitalize Pakistan's nuclear weapons program?
    2. Re:Most open source will come from India??? by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On reading the article the main thing that jumped out at me was the assumption that Sun, or at least Simon Phipps, believes that most open source programming will be done in India.


      No, he states that he believs that most of the expansion in open source programming will be in India. Considering raw population numbers and development trends, that's probably not an entirely unreasonable assumption.

      The US and Western Europe, for instance, probably have as a high a percentage of their population programming as they are going to have, and the split between open source and proprietary is probably pretty stable (not that it won't change over time, but there is a lot of inertia built in).

      India has quite a lot of people, is seeing lots of growth in the tech field, and is a lot more fluid in how the structure of its tech industry will shake out. So, yeah, lots of growth in open source development is likely there, and spending any given amount of money to encourage that growth is likely to have a lot more effect there, not only because of the greater practical value of the same amount of money in India, but because a lot less of India's programmers or potential new programmers are entrenched in an existing system and unlikely to change their behavior without a major incentive.
  4. Re:I don't get it. by EvilRyry · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's an investment in their future. It will hopefully attract new developers, improve their software and get some new ideas in the mix.

  5. Re:Please don't by langelgjm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I got an e-mail from Sun the other day offering to send me Solaris on DVD, and if I activate it within 45 days, they'll also send me some gift certificates for various restaurants. I think it's funny that they're kind of bribing people into trying Solaris.

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  6. But Sun is already doing that... by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The majority of contribution to the listed software projects already comes from people who get their salary from Sun.

    I guess Sun is trying to find a way where they can pay people to work on their projects without directly being employed by Sun. The advantage for Sun would be that they wouldn't have to fire people or pay health or other benefits, and it might be easier to recruit people. The advantage for the programmers would be flexibility in how many hour they want to put into a particular project. And, if Sun doesn't prevent it, that they might be paid twice for doing the same job. Once by their main employer, who pay them to implement a specific feature they need in a project, and once by Sun for doing the same thing.

  7. Taking into account human nature by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perverse though it might sound, it's plausible that overall satisfaction & productivity might be lower if some are getting paid compared to when none are.

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  8. Re:Please don't by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you, but please don't poison what is being done by good will with your money. Speak for yourself!

    Please pay me,

    --an open source author.
  9. Great news! by Bearhouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can they start on the divers, please?

    Mind you, can't see Sun paying for people to write drivers for other people hardware...shame.

    1. Re:Great news! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can they start on the divers, please? There are open source divers?! Is Linux water resistant to 300 meters?
  10. I'll happily take money for the boring bits by davecb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are a lot of tasks that I'll do for a paying employer, that I dislike enough to avoid when I'm doing development Pro Bono.

    An honorarium might make it palatable to do really really boring stuff (;-))

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  11. Re:I don't get it. by fm6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By selling technology based on these open-source products. OpenSolaris is particularly important in this respect, because Sun is still primarily a hardware vendor, and the more features Solaris has, the more sellable are Solaris-based systems. Also, like all high-end hardware vendors, Sun is becoming more and more a service provider and system integrator. The better the software is, the easier it is to sell these services. The fact that anybody can use the software without paying for it is actually a plus, because it makes the software a de facto standard.

    Believe it or not, the entire Open Source industry is based on this logic. Companies spend big bucks creating or extending OS software. Usually they just hire programmers to do it, but offering prizes to eager volunteers is better publicity, and much cheaper.

  12. Re:Please don't by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On the other hand, the people who pay are the people who set your agenda - and you are essentially working for the boss.


    The fact that someone is offering money for OSS development doesn't really take anything away from the people that have their own strong interests that no one is offering money for. It might even broaden the community of people willing to work on OSS without pay, since there'll be a limited number of paid gigs available, and the best way to qualify yourself for them is to get intimately familiar with the software for which they are offered -- and the best way to do that is to actually work on it.

    The problem is when Sun etc. start paying, the pool of available programmers decreases for other projects


    This presumes that the pool of programmers who will work on OSS is fixed, so that whoever takes the pay is coming out of the pool of people who would otherwise do it for free. But making money available means that you are more likely to pull people who otherwise wouldn't work on OSS into the OSS development world.

    Plus, a whole lot of OSS development is done for pay now, by paid employees of firms like Sun, IBM, etc. Heck, offering bounties for particular features from the community isn't new, either.

    If I were Microsoft or Google (summer of code), this sounds like a good strategy... just hand out some cash to the communities which don't threaten you in any way, grow them, and thus minimize the communities which might threaten you.


    How does this work? Getting paid to work on a feature in, say, OpenJDK doesn't make you less capable of turning around and implementing an open source project (for free or paid for by a competitor) that might challenge Sun's Java.

    If anything, it makes you more capable of doing that, if you were inclined to do so.
  13. By encouraging quality alternatives to MS by AgentBif · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Glibly... if OSS dies, Microsoft wins it all.

    (Let's pretend Apple doesn't exist so I can save some keystrokes here.)

    Sun wants to encourage continued improvements in the quality and versatility of what people can get without paying MS. This way, people can continue to buy non-Windows computers, Java continues being relevant, and MS works harder to produce (or at least to tollerate) useful innovations because they have credible competition to keep them honest.

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