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Gates Expresses Surprise Over IE8 Secrecy

eldavojohn writes "Shortly following the frustrations of IE7, Gates claims that he is unaware that IE8 Secrecy has been alienating developers. Ten influential bloggers met with Bill on Tuesday and asked Gates questions about why they are no longer receiving information on IE. From Molly Holzschlag's blog: 'Something seems to have changed, where there is no messaging now for the last six months to a year going out on the IE team. They seem to have lost the transparency that they had. This conversation [between Web developers and the IE team] seems to have been pretty much shut down, and I'm very concerned as to why that is.' To which Bill replied: 'I'll have to ask [IE general manager] Dean [Hachamovitch] what the hell is going on, I mean, we're not, there's not like some deep secret about what we're doing with IE.'"

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  1. Of course by darkhitman · · Score: 5, Funny

    To which Bill replied: 'I'll have to ask [IE general manager] Dean [Hachamovitch] what the hell is going on, I mean, we're not, there's not like some deep secret about what we're doing with IE.'"
    Of course there's no deep secret about it. "We're doing nothing" is hardly a secret, after all.
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  2. Truncated by nog_lorp · · Score: 3, Funny

    That quote was incomplete, it's really: "I'll have to ask [IE general manager] Dean [Hachamovitch] what the hell is going on, I mean, we're not, there's not like some deep secret about what we're doing with IE. *cackle*"

  3. How can they be working on IE8... by SpartacusJones · · Score: 4, Funny

    before Opera 9.5/FF3 are released and they have new ideas to copy?

  4. Hmm... by Derek+Loev · · Score: 3, Funny

    'I'll have to ask [IE general manager] Dean [Hachamovitch] what the hell is going on, I mean, we're not, there's not like some deep secret about what we're doing with IE.'
    He, like, totally sounds like a Silicon Valley girl.
  5. There has been conversation? by sootman · · Score: 3, Funny

    This conversation [between Web developers and the IE team] seems to have been pretty much shut down...

    It may not have been face-to-face, but for almost a decade, it seems that the conversation between IE devs and web devs has pretty much been...
    Web devs: Fuck you!
    IE devs: Fuck you!

    Why does the IE team hate standards so much? It's not like they don't know how to make things work. IE5 for Mac came out in 2000 and was pretty awesome--it even supported transparent PNGs with nothing more than an <img> tag!

    Dear IE team: thanks for inventing AJAX. Now please go make everything else work. kthxbye.

    (Note: I know for a fact that the IE team has many talented and nice people. They (and we) are just victims of horrible decisions being made further up the chain. So this vitriol is really directed at management.)

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  6. Definition of "transparency" by Jay+L · · Score: 5, Funny

    When questioned further, Gates claimed that "When I said we'd be more transparent, I just meant we'd use more alpha-blending. You know, like Vista."

  7. Re:Too mundane, not flashy and pointless enough by gallwapa · · Score: 5, Funny

    IE uses easy-to-install plugins...haven't you ever worked on someones machine with 15 search bars?

  8. Re:In a perfect world by brusk · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a fine line between courage and stupidity. You appear to be prepared to cross it.

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  9. Just when they had it working... by Okonomiyaki · · Score: 4, Funny

    "They seem to have lost the transparency that they had."

    It took them 10 years to finally get PNGs working properly and now they're going to be broken again?