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OpenOffice Online Goes Beta

Stony Stevenson sends word of the beta availability of a software-as-a-service version of OpenOffice 2.3, brought to us by Mandriva Linux creator Gael Duval. According to Ars, this package "easily offers the most features of any online office suite," though it "lacks the collaborative or document-sharing features of competitors like Google Docs or even Microsoft's Office Live Workspace." "To create this feature-rich environment, Online OpenOffice.org requires a modern browser with JavaScript and the Sun Java Runtime Environment version 1.4+ plug-in. The setup has been tested in Firefox 1.5 and above, IE6 and 7, and even Safari, though Ubuntu users are specifically warned that they must be using the Sun Java (Sun JRE) plug-in or the current implementation of Online OpenOffice.org won't work."

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  1. Why would Ubuntu users care? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean, good to know, but Ubuntu comes with OpenOffice.org anyway. Without document sharing, I really don't see the point of this...

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    1. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by athena_wiles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The one major advantage that I find to online systems even without document sharing is that it makes it incredibly easy to access my documents from multiple computers. As a college student, I often find myself working on a document (whether a paper, a to-do list, etc.) that I need to access from my computer, from my lab computers, and from kiosks in the library.

      While I can put my file on my flash drive, some web kiosks on campus don't have Office or OpenOffice installed and thus won't open my documents. As such, I find it much easier to put simple documents that I need to open from many locations into my google docs account, and then I don't have to worry about the portability thing. For people like me, online systems really can be useful even if they don't include document-sharing capabilities.

    2. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure why anyone should care very much. Anyone can install OpenOffice for free, so I'm not sure what's gained by actually having it execute online. Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you get equivalent results by using OpenOffice locally and having some sort of syncing online? Or maybe figuring out a way to mount a remote volume and open/save documents directly to it?

      I have no specific objection, but I'm just not sure I see the advantage. Well, the only advantage I can see is that not all computers have an office suit installed that's capable of reading/writing ODF files, but that's just a problem and a disappointment.

    3. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's why you carry OOo on the flash drive, too.

      :-D

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    4. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by Bombula · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm trying to visualize the end-game for online office applications. In the old days, dumb terminals accessed more powerful computers in order to provide more feature-rich functionality. Later, as personal computers got more powerful, feature-rich apps have moved onto users' machines while online apps have become 'lite' versions because of bandwidth and processor limitations. Now that processing and memory capacity are already so massive that virtually any device has enough power to run virtually any office application, what I want to know is what will happen when bandwidth is no longer an issue. Then it truly wouldn't matter where the application was run - all that would matter would be the interface itself: the monitor and input devices. For example, you mentioned accessing all your documents from computers away from home - with massive bandwidth, why connect to a centralized online service instead of just connecting to your home computer?

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    5. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by mysticgoat · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's why you carry OOo on the flash drive, too.

      And here's the link to do it: PortableApps.com. I've put about 100 512MB and 1.0GB flashdrives into the hands of not-so-savvy persons, loaded with OOo, Firefox (with a specific set of bookmarks and extensions), and a couple of other goodies. These have gone to job seekers who have been through our "Work Place Basics" and similar courses. Haven't gotten any meaningful amount of feedback yet, but that suggests that at least the program hasn't flopped right out of the starting gate.

      Figure that loading a USB drive with OOo and Firefox will eat up about 300 MB. If you add a portable XAMPP, as I did so I can work on some web development, that would be another 300 MB. Worth it though, at least on my 80GB WD Passport.

    6. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? by j0kkk3l · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, this only works if you just use Windows Computers. I regularly visit different labs at uni: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and Solaris. If I installed all the Software I need, I would fill up my flash drive so fast, there won't be any room for files.

  2. Software as a Service? Sort of... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looks like the program is projected over a VNC, Remote X, Citrix, or some other remote GUI session. The good news is that such a design makes the software as interactive as a desktop application. The bad news is that it's a sign of minimal changes, which can sometimes mean a poor-quality product. (e.g. The complaints about lack of document sharing.)

    I'm a big fan of delivering software over the web, but simply remote GUI sessions aren't going to do it. Consumers may not know *why* the software acts the way it does, but they will see through the ruse to something they can get for much less than the asking price. Heck, setup a Unix server or Windows Terminal Server and you can push out the app just as effectively.

    I'll give them an B+ for effort, but a D- for execution. Let's hope they customize the app a bit more in the future, and close the gaps to become a competitive product.

    1. Re:Software as a Service? Sort of... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I should read a little more carefully. The article says that it's VNC. Soo... now you know. And you don't even have to RTFA. :-P

  3. First post! by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I wrote this with a web-based editor.

  4. links by mikee805 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since neither the article or the summary provide links:

    The company:http://www.ulteo.com/
    Online OOO:http://www.ulteo.com/home/ooo

    And if you dont want to register just to see it. Bug me not works for now.

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  5. A first step by gordgekko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This looks to me like a proof of concept, that they could get an online version of OpenOffice working and were satisfied with that as a first step. The problem is that other online services are past this point.

    That said, I'm still not sure why online office suites really need to exist. Commercial and FOSS versions exist that scale or shrink to most needs.

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  6. Re:Interestin' by omeomi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, I wonder who can be the first to win over the hearts and minds of the tens of...web-based office users...

  7. Please update: It has collaborative feature ! by thierryk · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is already a collaboration feature implemented: work online with others fully dynamically, much better than any other online productivity suite. Also, if the host of the session prints a document, it prints for all other guests of the session. Just click "share desktop" and invite people to work with you on any OpenOffice.org app (in read only mode or active mode). You can invite as many people as you want (careful not to give active role to too many people or it will be hard to manage ;-)). So you can already update your post on that point.

  8. Re:Why would Ubuntu users care? Maybe... by davidsyes · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's like firing a salvo across the battleship msoft's bow. Might be firing arrows, and in a house of mirrors, but it's still firing shots. With an arrow, a leader can still be maimed or killed. Shatter the mirrors, and somebody's vision is jarred.

    Hopefully Mandriva has vision-correction lenses to make up for all the spider webs that will be generated. But, hopefully, thar be toxins on zee arrows, maytes...

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  9. LyX by lahvak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slightly off topic, but I always thought LyX would be a prime candidate for an online document processor. It already has a thin frontend and separate backend. Making the frontend an online application would free users from having to install TeX with all its packages and fonts, and all sorts of other LyX files. It would also let you manage all your templates centrally, for example an organization could have all their templates on a LyX server, and employees would just need to run a possibly browser based thin client.

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    1. Re:LyX by nahpets77 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out MonkeyTex, which uses pdftex for processing. It has collaboration features etc. I think that Latex is an amazing way to go for online collaboration, especially these days since many people are learning how to edit wikis using markup languages; so learning the Latex syntax is not the big leap it was 5-10 years ago.

  10. I don't understand the attraction for the user. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It's not like RAM and HD space are heinously expensive. My drive works whether or not I'm hooked up to the Web, and it doesn't work faster or slower depending on my connection quality. So, where's the win for the consumer?

    Well...

    As far as I can tell: there is none.

    It seems to me this is just the kind of prep work MS and Adobe need done in order to remove their software from your drive and thus remove *just a little more* of the independence and autonomy of your desktop. Frankly, I think people who are helping this a long are working against their own best interests. I would recommend a boycotting of such research.

    RS

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  11. Block that metaphor by xant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's see we've got a battleship/salvo thing. That's pretty normal.

    Then it's an arrow.

    Then it's in a house of mirrors.

    Apparently the leaders are inside the house of mirrors. Wearing.. wait, breaking the mirrors makes it
    harder to see? The mirrors are there to confuse people. Seems like breaking them would be ok.

    Then.. oh god, spiders and glasses. Are the spiders wearing the glasses? Are they just climbing on peoples' eyes?

    And we're back to the arrows, now poisonous. (Would the poison make it harder or easier to break the mirrors?)

    And the poison is Mandrake--way to bring it back around!

    I've seen some fucked-up metaphors on here, but you win the blue ribbon for attendance by technical knock-out.

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  12. Found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  13. Remember Java based C/S StarOffice, anyone? by demon+driver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About seven or eight years ago, when StarOffice 5.x was still around, shortly after it was acquired by Sun, I remember some Sun/StarOffice guys showing StarOffice as a real client-server version implemented in Java, not as a remote-GUI (VNC) based "normal" app like the one in TFA. The server portion was running on a Solaris server, while the client app ran on any OS; I think they were showing it on OS/2 since the event was a OS/2 users' conference. They claimed to have implemented some kind of sophisticated load balancing between client and server. The functionality was the same as that of the ordinary office suite, the GUI looked not much different and evrerything seemed quite performant.

    For a very short time, German telco Mobilcom used to offer it to their customers as a web-based service.

    I wonder what became of it. The same what became of the vast and really useful feature set that was ripped out of StarOffice 5.x when it was crippled to become OpenOffice 1/StarOffice 6, probably.

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