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Many Analog TV Watchers Aren't Aware of Upcoming Switchover
A recent poll of TV watchers shows that many Americans aren't aware the end times are coming for analog broadcast signals. "The survey found that the group most affected by the analog cutoff -- those with no cable or satellite service -- are most in the dark about what will happen to their sets: Only one-third of them had heard that their TVs are set to stop receiving programs. Of course, there are solutions. Congress is subsidizing the purchase of digital television receivers. And the cable TV industry is hoping that this will spur the last holdouts to buy pay TV."
In the UK you can get set-top boxes that plug into your analogue TV or video recorder and give you a DVB-T tuner. They're about 30 quid in any supermarket. Allowing for the UK being slightly more expensive than the US, and the dollar being so low, that's probably still only about $50.
That's just it. I haven't heard a single word about this any place other than online. not even the local newspaper have had a story on it.
The people who will be most affected by it, are those who don't use computers, cause they are magical machines, and hard to use.
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The difference is that analog and digital photographs can coexist in the same world rather easily. The main reason that the government is pushing the switch to digital TV is spectrum conservation. Since DTV uses less radio spectrum than analog, we can have the same number of channels taking up less space, which allows for the big 700 MHz spectrum auction that we've been hearing about (and that Google is interested in).
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Now we're having digital TV rammed down our throats. This time with the help of the government. TV and electronic shops are jumping for joy, and of course the cable companies are rubbing their hands in glee. The poor consumer is having to buy lots of new equipment and most likely a more expensive cable subscription too.
Here in Switzerland the switch over well under way. Terrestrial (air) broadcast of analog signals has stopped, and the cable companies are switching over too. The technique to 'encourage' their customers to switch to digital is to silently remove more and more of the non-major channels from the analog offering, while offering balkanized digital 'packages' that end up a higher monthly cost if you want to duplicate the same selection channels you had before.
To the yuppies and the technically competent this is probably a relatively small inconvenience. But I wonder about the poor and older generation, who are essentially having a perfectly acceptable analog service taken away from them.
Compare the introduction of digital TV with that of color TV. Color TV was introduced in the early 60s and you could still use and buy new black and white TVs well into 80s. While I'm not asking for a backwards compatibility, I would appreciate it if a similarly long switch over period would be given.
---- It won't be as bad as you fear or as good as you hope, but it will take twice as long as you plan.
More confirmation from here in Sweden which only has digital TV transmissions now. A basic set-top box with analog out costs less than $50... without any subsidies.
Those "Analog" TVs you refer to must be capable of receiving over-the-air (OTA) digital signals (as of March 2007). They are Standard Definition TVs, capable of decoding OTA ATSC signals.
Remember everyone, Digital TV != High Definition TV.
That being said, I have not seen how these Standard Def TVs handle High Def content. When the programming switches to a 16:9 image (think prime-time), is it displayed letterbox on SDTVs, or are the sides chopped off?
Erm, you misunderstood. You don't need a "digital" TV as in LCD or Plasma. Any old CRT will do. You'll just need a receiver that's capable of receiving digital television, since the analog one that's built into most old TVs won't work anymore. These are available in any store that sells electronics for a few bucks. Here's a cheap one from Amazon.
"That being said, I have not seen how these Standard Def TVs handle High Def content. When the programming switches to a 16:9 image (think prime-time), is it displayed letterbox on SDTVs, or are the sides chopped off?"
Yes. There is usually a menu for your preference. There is also usually a 3rd option - stretch to fit.
How does your 16:9 TV handle 4:3 content? You are likely to see the same options.
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At least with an analog tv if you have a crappy antenna you get some snow or other interference and the program is still watchable. With Digital TV you get big pixel blocks and sound cut-out that makes the program completely unbearable to watch. That's progress for ya.
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16:9 and HD are not really related. Our (LCD) TV is SD but it switches to 16:9 whenever a real 16:9 signal is detected (it's just an extra voltage ramp-up somewhere), for letterbox you can select the best fit from several zoom-like functions (and 14:9 as well as good ol 4:3). The incoming signal is just (analog) cable.
What's tauted as "HD-ready" often means just that I think, that it can do 16:9.
"in the UK a lot of houses need upgraded aerials to receive digital TV and digital radio - is the cost of fitting these going to be met by the government / tax payers?"
Sort of, but not quite. The government and broadcasters aren't going to pay to upgrade anyone's home antenna but they are going to increase the power of the digital transmissions when the analogue ones have been turned off, so the problem will just go away.
The fear was that digital transmitters might have caused interference to the existing analogue service so they were all made low power, but with analogue gone that's no longer an issue.
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And it's even better than that, because the digital signal can be used on adjacent channels. With the exception of 6-7 and 13-14, how many analog stations in your area are on adjacent channel numbers? Ever wonder why? Because analog needs channel separation.
Right now I can tell you that there probably ARE adjacent channels in your area, you just don't know about them because they're in digital, and even if you can receive them, they tell your TV set to show a different channel number.
So we lose 25% of the channels to the spectrum auction, but can use twice as many of the ones that are left. (That's not exactly true, because 2-6 are apparently not good for digital, so we lose a bit more than 25%.) Digital is also better about geographic distance between transmitters on the same channel.
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It doesn't matter what you have, because this isn't affecting any kind of pay TV. This only affects the old-fashioned terrestrial channels you can get for free by putting up a set of rabbit ears.
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Good one. That's DVB-T. It won't work here. We use ATSC in the US.
The reason interlaced stayed is that the FCC didn't have the backbone and the technical expertise to require that the new standard be done correctly. It's as simple as that. The TV people wanted interlaced, because "that's the way they've always done it" and the computer people couldn't convince the FCC otherwise. The computer people wanted progressive, because it simplifies conversion and eliminates the whole bob/weave/foo that gets done to watch an interlaced signal on a progressive (or full panel or asynchronous) system. It also simplifies upconversion.
Now, the FCC didn't just screw the pooch, once, but twice. They ignored common technical sense and allowed interlaced to stay, but then bowed to pressure to allow multiple formats for ATSC transmission. 18 of them, to be exact. The industry asked for such "flexibility", and then realized when they had to implement it it was an absolute nightmare. If they had decided that the signal for NA HD was to be 1080p/30, we'd all be done now. What? Did I hear you cry that that would have delayed HD adoption? I've got bad news - 1080p30 is common and can be done with consumer hardware _now_, and we still haven't switched over. I refuse to believe that the professional sector couldn't have completed the process 5 years ago. As a bonus, all the 480p/720p/1080i inconsistency would have been avoided, and the set top boxes would only have to negotiate one format instead of 18.
No, interlaced is here because the FCC didn't have the balls to do the transition right.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Probably what will happen, instead of snowing and ghosting, it wont come in at all. The digital signals may be far less tolerant of interference, especially with all that encryption. An analog signal, if you pick up distant signals you can at least get something, with dtv you probably wont get anything. The only thing you might get is strong local stations just around the block. Am i wrong? Someone correct me if so.
My MythTV box with an internal antenna is about 40 miles from the transmitters and there can be issues. I'm not that far from a flight path and planes can cause a streak of pixel loss. Maybe you haven't seen Comcast's "Dump the Dish" campaign. We also have a woods nearby and heavy wind and precipitation have had me dialing back to the "SD" channel on rare occasion to avoid breakup -- presumably from scatter. A _really_ cool and weird drop out is when a heavy storm is causing the sat link at the station to break up _too_ and my box is already having trouble getting a lock.
Just saying. On balance, it's fantastic compared to analog rabbit ears. Just not perfect. And since we've never had cable and don't want it, we're happy and hope broadcast never goes away.
Only because us technicians wear lab coats and glasses when working with them.
I think the Americans could take a leaf out of our book across the pond here. There are frequent news items, promotions and notices about the digital switchover. Some are actually targeted around programmes that people who are most likely to be in the dark will watch (eg daytime programmes, such as Countdown and Deal or No Deal. While DTT boxes aren't free, they're very cheap. The continuity announcers on the 'big five' channels (BBC1, BBC2, ITV1, Channel 4 and Five) frequently promote the digital services over the end credits and idents into programmes.
While I'm sure there will still be people claiming they never knew it was happening, awareness seems to be a lot higher over here than over there.
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RadioShack, Best Buy, Circuit City, Kmart, Sam's Club, Sears, Target and Wal-Mart are the big retailers on line to provide these. The pricing is to be between $60 and $70, with a federal government credit of $40 available (limit 2 per household.)
Well then around 2002 I was home over spring break, watching HD and suddenly they just went blank. They were gone. We had no idea why, I went back to school, and he was busy on other things and had dropped his subscription down to the basics because there were only a few HD channels.
In 2004 I got a job that required a lot of travel. Instead of paying $800 a month for an apartment that I spent maybe 6 days a month in, I just put most of my crap in storage and left my electronics at my dad's house. If I had to be at the coporate office (in the same city as my dad lived in), I just stayed there. He decide that since there was more of an HD line up, and we had all the equipment, it was time to go back to an HD package. (Plus it was baseball time.)
Well come to find out, what caused the HD feed to go blank was all of a sudden Dish required a new module for their Model 6000 reciever. As far as we could tell, this wasn't something that was announced. It just happened. The module was $100. We were early adopters and paid about $600 for the damned box to start with. Since we had been a loyal customer for so many years, they sent out the module free after he complained. Plugged it in, and the first commercial we saw on the HD demo channels was, "If you own a model 6000 receiver you will need to call to get this module". Talk about f(*#ing irony.
The receiver finally died last year and they sent a free upgrade, yada, yada. However his big deal now is that he can't bundle services because he's an existing customer. So he's switching to cable at the end of the year, getting the $120 a month HD/HSI bundle and then next year will play the game again going back to a Dish/Phone/DSL combo.
Over the air isn't an option. The reason we first got cable back in the Early 1980's (I was the first kid in the class to have cable back when there was few if no commericals) was that the house is situated where we can't get jack. (Point the antenna in one direction, you get NBC clear, ABC's a little fuzzy, and PBS is there after dark. Point it 45 degrees to the south and you get WB & CBS with a lot of fuzz.
Anyway, our little HD story.
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I've seen commercials too... in the DC area the anchors from all of the local news broadcasts (including non-English broadcasts) are featured in one commercial where they tell you to go to dtvanswers.com to get your coupon.
Also, I just did a Google product search and found a couple ATSC converters for about $160... also found a few DVD/VCR combos that have the ATSC tuner as well for about $300.
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I've seen the "2009 analog switchover" commercial on TV a couple dozen times already, and we're more than a year away, and the voucher program isn't even starting it's earliest stages for a couple more months.
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I feel your pain, but more often than not those movies were 2.35:1 (analog was 4:3 or 1.33:1, HDTV is 16:9 or 1.78:1). 16:9 is a pretty reasonable compromise.
Look at it this way; TV shows were 33% wider than their height while movies were and are up to 135% wider than their height (going back to the 70's I believe). HDTV at 16:9 is 78% wider and that seems a fair deal.