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IBM's Five Predictions for the Future

StonyandCher writes "IBM has released its second annual set of 'Next Five in Five' predictions. The company's crystal ball also revealed that the long-simmering trend toward "smart energy" devices will proliferate wildly. "Dishwashers, air conditioners, house lights, and more will be connected directly to a 'smart' electric grid, making it possible to turn them on and off using your cell phone or any Web browser," a company statement asserts."

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  1. My first prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These new web controllable appliances will be vulnerable to exploits, resulting in someone's house burning down a house after a hacker turns on their stove.

    1. Re:My first prediction by RobertM1968 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These new web controllable appliances will be vulnerable to exploits, resulting in someone's house burning down a house after a hacker turns on their stove.

      Perhaps - if they become commonplace. There (for many years) have been controllable "appliances"... this is just an expansion of something that already existed. With stuff from SmartHome or X10, one could already control lights, AC, heat, security systems (with "back-links" to lights, and other stuff), locks and certain appliances via the web (and of course from home computers and dedicated/semi-dedicated consoles). Dishwashers (washing machines, dryers, etc) are something not yet on the "total control" aspect of such products... but I dont even see a need for that other than the "because I can" factor... why load a dishwasher and then wait to get to work/a friend's to go online to tell it to turn on (again, other than the "because I can" factor)?

    2. Re:My first prediction by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dishwashers (washing machines, dryers, etc) are something not yet on the "total control" aspect of such products... but I dont even see a need for that other than the "because I can" factor... why load a dishwasher and then wait to get to work/a friend's to go online to tell it to turn on (again, other than the "because I can" factor)?

      And there's more to it than that. I've seen more than one appliance meltdown in my day, and I've been glad I've been there to unplug them and take care of the problem. My girlfriend suffered a house fire from an electric dryer, and damn near had another one from an electric drill charger. I'm not a safety freak by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm generally of the opinion that pretty much house all household appliances should be *off* when you're not at home.

      The only exceptions in my mind is a home security system, home monitoring (heat, water, etc.). The only thing I really think I'd like to control from elsewhere might be the heat (or A/C for your southern folk); if I'm unexpectedly away for a bit, it'd be nice to save on HVAC; similarly, if I'm coming home early, it'd be nice to have the heat (or A/C) kick in early for me. Other than that, spare the complexity; it's not worth it, and the added wiring/devices would only add to the already increased risk of fire from faulty devices running unattended.
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    3. Re:My first prediction by JimNTonik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about noise? Maybe you want to run the dishwater when you're out of the house so that it doesn't bother you when you're trying to relax at home? That feature in itself would be worth it for some.

  2. Infrastructure, anyone? by Bieeanda · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Smart roads, smart power grids, massively cross-indexed medical files... it may sound good on paper (and I would debate that in some cases), but who is going to rip up their extant traffic light systems, or rewire their house (let alone a city grid) for that kind of functionality?

    Who's going to provide this functionality, for that matter? Will we end up with a dozen mutually incompatible systems, and what happens when we want to upgrade what's already been half installed?

  3. Five years or decades? by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The company said that during the next five years, a "wave of connectivity" between vehicles and roadways will help keep traffic flowing smoothly

    Yeah the theoretical technology might exist, but major improvements to the national infrastructure will take decades to implement.

    "Dishwashers, air conditioners, house lights, and more will be connected directly to a 'smart' electric grid,

    Again this require a major improvement to parts of the infrastructure. On top of that, my parents already own all the appliances they want, they will not likely get many new ones anytime in the next five years. Maybe an HDTV.

    For example, phones will enable users to snap a photo of an article of clothing, pull in results from the Web about the brand and where to buy it, and then render the garment on top of a 3-D image of the user, IBM said.

    Many stores I have been in do not let you photograph the merchandise, if you can suddenly comparison shop the goods in any given store I can only see that policy getting stronger.

    This article sounds more like "The World of Tomorrow" than something I would expect out of a respected technology company.

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    1. Re:Five years or decades? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Of course, it would be TOTALLY impossible for a smart fridge to have specially designed compartments liter or gallon-sized with scales that would measure the weight and use it to tell the level. It would be a COMPLETE and fascist invasion of your privacy to force you to place your milk in said designated area
      It would be a bit of a waste of valuable fridge space for those of us who are lactose-intolerant and therefore do not purchase milk at all, while also being somewhat inadequate for those with large families who purchase more than a gallon at a time.

      And it is such an insurmountable task to take the eggs out of the fucking 24-piece package and just transfer them to the purpose-built container inside the fridge so it can track availability.
      24? You get 24 eggs at a time? I never have more than 6 at a time. I don't see what's "smart" about having 18 empty egg slots and nowhere to put my lettuce.

      Basically, a fridge of the sort you describe would be perfect for anyone whose buying habits are identical to the designer's. Making it flexible and modular would cause the cost to rocket. I really don't see it working very well. Likewise, there are no major problems with the current technology, in which each week I open the fridge, look inside, observe what I'm running low on, and write a shopping list. Oh, the CHORE! The insufferable loss of productivity, Oh those WHOLE TWO MINUTES GONE FOREVER, NEVER TO RETURN! Oh, sorry, wait a minute, that was your line, wasn't it?

      Nice rant, though.
  4. Re:Every component smart, but one by Unoti · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We're getting so sheltered and pussywhipped that we won't be able to function as an independent species within a few decades
    You're probably right, but it's not really a bad thing. I can sure type faster and program computers better than my grandfather could. Don't think of humans in isolation. Think of them in combination with their technology. We may be wimpier in many ways compared to our ancestors. But if you make the comparison including our current technologies then we're advancing quite rapidly. We have longer life expectancy due to medical technology and better knowledge of health and nutrition. If you think of humans in a broad sense that includes knowledge and technology, then our progress as a race is stunning. We're better in countless ways now than we were just a short time ago, and getting better faster than we ever have before.
  5. oh please... by apodyopsis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..spare me this drivel.

    somebody please give me an example of why I should ever want to control my dishwasher from my phone or my web browser.

    the only intelligence I want in my gadgets it on the lines of smart machines that can detect the load and vary the power consumption and resource usage accordingly. possibly the only interaction I would want is a little minimalist chime to alert me that the cycle or current operation has finished and some human interaction is needed.

    *everything* else should work behind the scenes to my benefit to save power or alert me when the washing powder is running low.

    interaction by web browser? what utter rot. I would say "whatever next, a fridge with a built in web browser?" but I remember talk of such stuff a few years ago...

    1. Re:oh please... by Viceroy+Potatohead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      interaction by web browser? what utter rot. I would say "whatever next, a fridge with a built in web browser?" but I remember talk of such stuff a few years ago... Unfortunately, that dark day is basically here. We can be a pretty absurd species, that's for sure. What we really need are Bluetooth enabled underwear, then they could let our cellphones know when we sh*t ourselves. Or maybe scissors with routers, that would also be nice.
  6. Mod Parent Up by maillemaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree entirely. If I have to tell my appliances how to behave, then it is /I/ who am smart, not the appliance.

    Smart would be if I set a monthly power budget and all my appliances figure out together how to best achieve their jobs within that budget.

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  7. Energy will be the next issue by tacocat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think there will be that much interest in smart appliances like they describe. I think this is a technological path to consider, but it will be over ruled by the fact that we, as a planet, are running out of per capita energy.

    We may be able to create a lot of energy, but the per capita demand worldwide is growing such that Americans (who consume more energy per capita) will experience a severe energy shortage and as such, the focus will not be on more appliances that are smart and therefore have a passive load on the household grid, but focus on appliances that actually stop using all electricity when you turn them off. Many don't these days because of the hot start design features.

    For the rest of this decade the US will experience energy shortages in terms of higher gasoline prices, higher heating gas prices, and higher electricity prices (and summer shortages). This will force us to reconsider a lot of the appliances that we already have and re-prioritize what we want in future appliances.

  8. Dumb Technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I consider the addition of a web server in your dishwasher or the ability turn it off and on via a cell phone to be an example of dumb technology. It demonstrates a failure to consider the use cases for a device like a dishwasher. The user is going to be right next to the device, loading or unloading the actual dishes it's built to wash. You don't need remote informational displays, you don't need remote control.

  9. WHY?? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Dishwashers, air conditioners, house lights, and more will be connected directly to a 'smart' electric grid, making it possible to turn them on and off using your cell phone or any Web browser,"

    If I am out...why in the hell do I want to take time to manage all my household appliances? I am 'out' for a reason. Presumably to have fun. Other than that, I am at home or work.

    Heat and A/C? Nope, sorry. Either maintain a constant temp, or follow the damn program I already gave you.
    Dishwasher? Oh please. If it's full enough, I'll start it now. Empty it whenever. Or maybe I'll start it just before I go to bed.
    House lights? Again...follow the (individual) timers, or just stay off. Simple, cheap, pretty foolproof.

    What possibly would I need to change settings on if I am 'out'. About the only thing I can think of that I might want to alter is the TiVo settings. Which I can do already. And that is (for me) a non issue. In two(three?) years, I haven't found a need to do it once.

  10. Riiight by mqduck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even the act of eating will take on new meaning, in IBM's view: "You will know everything from the climate and soil the food was grown in, to the pesticides and pollution it was exposed to, to the energy consumed to create the product, to the temperature and air quality of the shipping containers it traveled through on the way to your dinner table." Will such information increase sales or revenue to producers? No. Will it hurt? Quite possibly.
    Will producers make such information available? It shouldn't take a genius to answer this question.
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  11. Yeah, right - and where's my flying car? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From TFA:

    he company said that during the next five years, a "wave of connectivity" between vehicles and roadways will help keep traffic flowing smoothly, drive down pollution and get you to your destination easier, "without the stress."

    This will be accomplished through "intelligent" traffic systems that automatically adjust light patterns and shift traffic to alternative routes, as well as cars that exhibit "reflexes" thanks to communication with other vehicles and roadside sensors, according to IBM.

    Utter and catastrophic bullshit. Those features MIGHT be available in 5 years, but the stupid bint up the street who just bought tha gas guzzling Caddilac SUV is NOT going to be getting one in five years. She will likely still be driving the gas guzzling POS Caddy. And I will DEFINITELY still be driving my Prius. And my brother is going tobe buying a new car next year, and it will likely be a used Ford. He ALWAYS buys used Fords.

    Essentially, for that technology to have ANY penetration in 5 years, it needs to have been made available last year or the year before. It takes an average of 10 years to replace 75% of the car fleet. This does NOT bode well given the petroleum situation....

    RS

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  12. Re:Every component smart, but one by Boronx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hello, human, your only advantage over other animals is technology, and it's always been that way.

  13. The future of the past by XNormal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Smart homes with remotely controlled appliances have featured in predictions for about 20 years now. Always about 5 years out.

    I predict they will remain in the prediction lists for the next 20 years.

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  14. Going way past the X10 Concept..... by tempest69 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The concept of remote activation is sorta primitive. The real concept of smart devices is about utilizing smart metered power. The concept is this.. The power company auctions off power in real time to devices which automatically bid for "cheap energy blocks" The cheap energy blocks never exceed the price of standard energy. This allows the power company to adjust load based on production from non-predictable sources. So when a windfarm starts going crazy with power, the air conditioner in your house can go full steam for quarter price. As the number of smart devices increases, the prices can auction to higher values. As smart devices get more vogue, we can rely on sporadic power generation more and more.

    Right now, the power companies predict usage, with little control, with smart energy, they can tune usage much more efficiently.

    Storm