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How and Why Knots Spontaneously Form

palegray.net writes "Scientists believe they have found the underlying reasons why knots are so common in the universe. This research helps us understand how knotty arrangements in various molecules lead to biological patterns, as in certain proteins. The article also provides a look at the field of topology, and how it relates to knots."

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  1. Hair by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Funny

    But can they explain why knots form in your hair after laying still for as little as an hour? My wife blames gnomes, and I'm inclined to agree with her.

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    1. Re:Hair by nuclearpenguins · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gnomes? I'm afraid knot.

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    2. Re:Hair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It can't be gnomes, it has to be KDEs.

    3. Re:Hair by dbolger · · Score: 5, Funny

      A more relevant example would be how you can set up a PC for the first time, and have all the cables carefully arranged so that there is no crossing over or tangling, and yet when you come back six months later, to add a new device or to swap out a cable, every single one of them is wrapped tightly around the others to such an extent that you can't understand how it could come about without somebody doing it intentionally.

    4. Re:Hair by sound+vision · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gnome has it's own version of knot, it's just called gnot.

  2. All knotted up for next year. by theleoandtherat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any tip about packing christmas lights?

  3. Do we really need an answer? by pla · · Score: 5, Funny

    This research helps us understand how knotty arrangements in various molecules lead to biological patterns, as in certain proteins.

    Because He reached out his noodly appendage and put the spark of life in our universe.


    "And the earth was without form, and void; and straightness was upon the face of the pan. And His Noodly Appendage moved upon the face of the sauce.

    And FSM said, Let there be knots: and there were knots.

    And FSM saw the knots, that they were good: and FSM divided the knots from the straightness as happens when you boil short and long pasta at the same time.

    And FSM called the knots Spaghetti, and the straightness he called Ziti. And the strands and tubes were the first course."


    Duh?

  4. Yes, but what about shoe laces, huh? by Prototerm · · Score: 5, Funny

    That explains why knots spontaneously form in wires and cables when you stick them in a box, but what about the way knots spontaneously come undone in your shoe laces? Perhaps in an alternate universe, shoe laces spontaneously knot themselves, and wires and cables untangle in storage. Of course, with that sort of altered physics, Homer Simpson would probably be the President of the United States.

    Oh, wait.

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  5. Loose ends cause most of the trouble... by jddj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a kayaker, I'm familiar with a rescue tool called a throw bag. Apparently, throw bags were developed for the maritime industry, then downsized for kayakers.

    The theory is quite simple, but it's amazing to watch how well it works:

    • Tie a rope through a hole in the bottom of a bag.
    • Stuff the bag with the rope, leaving the tail end of the rope sticking out of the top.
    • Grab the tail end of the rope and throw the bag towards the person who needs the rope.
    • Watch as the rope magically pays out of the bag, completely free of knots or tangles.
    • Don't get so awed by the rope coming out untangled that you let go of the end...

    I've watched these bags work time and time again, amazed that with the rope just stuffed into the bag, they work reliably. I've used store-bought bags and ones I've made myself and have never seen the rope tangle.

    I realize that without loose ends proper knots can't form, but with a throw bag, you don't even get close to tangles!

  6. Hands-on knot theory by clawsoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a sysadmin who has spent days untangling hundreds of tangled cables from the backs of too-crowded racks - hundreds of A/V lines criss-crossed by dozens of network lines criss-crossed by power cords - I've had some time to think about practical knot theory. I've established two primary hypotheses:

    1. Placing cables is difficult because you are not just defining the position of that cable, you are also defining the position of every other cable in relation to that cable. As the number of cables rises, the complexity increases combinatorially. (Or exponentially. Or something. I faked my way through those math classes.)

    2. There are many more ways for cables to be tangled than to be untangled, so statistically, tangling is overwhelmingly likely. It's like entropy that way: There are many more ways for particles to move in different directions than there are ways for particles to move in the same direction, so it takes special effort or special circumstances to get them all to line up.