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World's Smallest Projector

SkinnyGuy writes "Mixed into all of PCMag's CES preview coverage is an interesting story about a projector that's no bigger than an iPod. An early version showed up at last year's CES, but some of the guts weren't inside the small body. Now they are. It uses lasers to project the image. Really fascinating, futuristic stuff."

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  1. Underwater Projection by daddyrief · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't let the, sharks get a hold, of this one...

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    1. Re:Underwater Projection by gynosaur · · Score: 2, Funny

      Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!

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  2. Obligitory laser post by stas2k · · Score: 3, Funny

    Frickin' lasers! Now all we need is some sharks.

    1. Re:Obligitory laser post by stderr_dk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Really, really small sharks...

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    2. Re:Obligitory laser post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wrong. With such a small projector...all we need is a droid.

    3. Re:Obligitory laser post by wizardforce · · Score: 4, Funny

      will angry mutated sea-bass suffice?

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  3. obscenity wants to be anthropomorphised by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mixed into all of PCMag's CES preview coverage is an interesting story about a projector that's no bigger than an iPod.

    I think the fact that they're missing in all of this, is that porn doesn't care what size it is.

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  4. now that is progress by jacquesm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Finally something that is not wasting 90% of it's energy as heat, not to mention replacing ridiculously expensive bulbs every few hundred hours.
    A low intensity version of this and you don't need a projection area any more, just beam it in directly :)
    note to self: do not stare into laser with remaining eye...

    1. Re:now that is progress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually.. their original product plan had the image directly beamed into your eye... virtual retinal display. Rumor has it that Bill Gates suggested they turn it around and point it at a wall instead. Their "Power of one" motto pointed out that there were no problems with dead pixels ( unless of course you lost one color or the "one" pixel ). The nicest part in my opinion is that there is no focus as the image is being transmitted from what would be the focal point ( hence the "virtual image" bit ). I suspect this focus-less projector will allow better "surround" virtual reality systems.. just blast the image onto full-face visor! They must've thought of this.. it's such an obvious use?

        As far as the laser.. I don't think it uses a laser anymore.. the led update was surprisingly richer and made the laser version look like chicken scratches.

        Nice to see they might make some money off of this technology instead of turning into a boring barcode scanning company. Maybe they had some other money makers to shake lately?

  5. I refer you to my signature... by Kawahee · · Score: 4, Funny
    Why is that comma there?

    It uses, lasers to project the image
    I thought that we had editors to check for this sort of, thing.
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    1. Re:I refer you to my signature... by foobsr · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why is that comma there?

      Everything gets smaller, brains included.

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    2. Re:I refer you to my signature... by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why is that comma there?

      It uses, lasers to project the image
      I thought that we had editors to check for this sort of, thing. Maybe William Gibson wrote that post, here? (I love his books, but I get annoyed by the use of extraneous commas, in his writing. Argh ... I just did it, again.)

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    3. Re:I refer you to my signature... by cnettel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only editor you need is emacs.

    4. Re:I refer you to my signature... by LaoChe1984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yours, is the incorrect, one. Why, is that comma, there? I thought, that we had editors, to check, for this sort of thing. There, fixed those, for you. James T. Kirk

    5. Re:I refer you to my signature... by sootman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The editors, are busy.

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  6. My Hope by robbiedo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope to hook this up to my laptop while playing Duke Nukem Forever with Chinese Democracy blaring on my stereo. What the heck, lets throw Obama a bone and have him in the White House.

  7. Laptops by ianare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This would be awesome for an ultra-portable laptop: just a keyboard without the screen, just project onto any wall ... or use a very light roll-up screen.

    1. Re:Laptops by ZJVavrek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or one of those laser keyboards. Like this. http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ Get some reasonably powerful device, add the two of those and maybe some kind of location sensing finger ring for a mouse... voilà, now you have a justifiable reason for Linux on your cell phone. Not that you needed one.

    2. Re:Laptops by johannesg · · Score: 4, Funny

      You want to combine this with a projected keyboard (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/). And possibly a wiimote-based multitouch interface instead of a mouse. Add a bit of cackling and you'll look like a mad wizard!

      You know what, I think the 21st century has arrived at last!

    3. Re:Laptops by StarfishOne · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Add a bit of cackling and you'll look like a mad wizard!"


      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke


      :D

    4. Re:Laptops by artg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Still needs some work to match Asimov's idea, though.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Radiant

    5. Re:Laptops by smithberry · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Made me think of this futuristic device I read about middle of last (!) year with a computer no larger than a pen: http://tech-nex.blogspot.com/2007/07/glance-intothe-future-computer.html A small laser projector is a step towards the future :-)

    6. Re:Laptops by RedBear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This would be awesome for an ultra-portable laptop: just a keyboard without the screen, just project onto any wall ... or use a very light roll-up screen. Exactly what I was saying to my wife a couple of weeks ago. The fact is that we're about one step away from having this ultra-portable computer already. As soon as Apple updates the iPhone and iPod Touch to support A) Bluetooth keyboards and B) outputting a higher resolution like the 848x480 resolution supported by this projector, a large portion of modern society will have all the "computer" they need. After all, there are a great many people out there that do nothing but email and web browsing with their computers. Literally the only thing keeping a lot of these folks from using their iPhone as their only computer is the fact that the screen is too small and the keyboard is no good for using all day long.

      Solve those issues and we already almost have right now, today, a full-fledged computer that fits in your pocket. This projector is a big step in the right direction. I will be very disappointed and surprised if the iPhone and iPod Touch don't get these features within the next couple of revisions. You thought the Mac mini was a phenomenon. As soon as these features appear there will finally be a handheld convergent device and you can bet that every other student in America will have one in their hand before long, to say nothing of the rest of society.

    7. Re:Laptops by Tekgno · · Score: 3, Funny

      ->I put on my robe and Wizard's hat...

  8. Possibilities for embedded devices? by zykhou · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I'm sure the original price tag will be steep, this product could actually have some pretty sweet applications.

    Imagine a singular device, the size of a cell phone, that could be a wholly working portable computer. You set it down and it projects a screen wherever you need it. Imagine that projector with something like this, and some sort of mouse replacement, and you'd have all your IO needs on the go. Instead of being restricted to tiny screens and keyboards, your portable device could be competition for your main desktop (which seems to be the route that consumer electronics are heading).

    I know I can't wait for the day when I carry around one wallet sized (or smaller) device that is an audio player, a cell phone, and feature complete computer, capable of being used for the same applications my laptop is for, but with far less weight and size. Hopefully with devices like this, I won't have to wait until I'm near dead to enjoy such luxuries.

    1. Re:Possibilities for embedded devices? by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Informative

      TFA says $200 - $300. :)

  9. Maybe smaller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's another projector called the Explay Oio that looks smaller: http://www.mobilewhack.com/explay-oio-the-first-real-pocket-nano-projector-on-dispaly-at-sid-2007/

  10. Would be great for multi touch touchscreen by mrjb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lately I've been giving some thought about how the hard part of multi-touch touch panel is the projection. Such a screen can be built from a sheet of glass+webcam, but the problem is that projecting an image back onto it requires a rather expensive projector. A $200-$300 laser projector would take this into the realm of 'affordable' technology.

    It could also render the OLED technology of the 'optimus maximus' keyboard obsolete- many people have a second VGA port that they do not use. Using this port to display a key map onto an essentially transparent keyboard would do the same. It could also allow people to choose the decoration to be displayed on the rest of their keyboard.

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    1. Re:Would be great for multi touch touchscreen by apt142 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At $200-$300 my first thought was, could this replace my TV set? I'd just need a tuner, which I could get for my computer. It sure would be nice to reduce all of my entertainment equipment to one computer, a speaker system and an iPod sized projector.

      The resolution isn't what I would like, especially if I wanted to hook it up to my computer. But, I'm sure that'll improve in future versions.

  11. This Isn't Going to be Good for the Community by matty619 · · Score: 5, Funny

    And just think, by simply using 50 mW lasers, it will now be possible for the masses to skywrite commercials on the cloud cover. Or at the very least, everyone can have their own Bat Signal Device. Or project a 500' Goatse on a downtown sky scraper. I don't see how this can possibly go wrong. -M@

    1. Re:This Isn't Going to be Good for the Community by jacquesm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think your power calculations for skywriting are off by several orders of magnitude. That sort of laser is best not used near anything combustible either, not unless you want it to combust that is :)

      A friend of mine who pioneered lasers in pop music (for Genesis in the Peter Gabriel days) once turned down a proposal to implement this because of the limited range of conditions when it would operate and the enormous power levels required, it's a bit of a difference to project something on a wall 5' away from you vs on a semi-transparant medium several hundred meters away. Of course you don't need to take my word for it, or you may have meant your original post in a sarcastic way (but that's hard to tell here sometimes).

      a 50 mW laser will carray a good distance as long as you don't start scanning it, then it quickly becomes useless.

    2. Re:This Isn't Going to be Good for the Community by Firethorn · · Score: 2, Informative

      for shining a laser into the sky (albeit at a helicopter pilot)

      no albeit about it, pointing a laser into the sky isn't a crime, pointing one at an aircraft(much less the pilot) is a felony.

      So holding a laser light show into the sky is fine as long as you're not below a regular flight lane. If you're doing a high power laser light show, contacting the FAA might be a good idea.

      Relatively high powered lasers are used for star gazing fairly frequently - it allows a director to point stuff out, as the laser is powerful enough to be seen via atmospheric interactions.

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  12. *gasp*gasp* by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, too, seem, to, be, having, an, asthma, attack.


    On a serious not, I, too, welcome our media-infringing*, entertainment-system, goatse-projecting (don't look into laser with remaining sanity), toothy, overlords.

    *do I recall something about needing to pay a fee for having a large enough (practically theater sized) entertainment setup?

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  13. MEMS vs Holographs by aphxtwn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Last year a different company made news demonstrating a monochrome version of their pico laser projector (PVPro) last year. They used LCoS to generate diffraction patterns rather than using a MEM mirror. http://www.lightblueoptics.com/

  14. Re:thanks for posting the article by gingerTabs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My 25,000 shares of MVIS also thanks you. I'm betting big dollar that someday micro projectors will be in every music player and phone, much like almost every phone has a camera now (I made a similar bet on OVTI a few years ago and was not disappointed). You must be gutted. There's only a 9 month window over the last 5 years when you could have bought those shares and made any gains. Still, hold out for the future eh :)
  15. What's the brightness on it? by MSRedfox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I own a PK20 pocket projector. It fits in the palm of my hand, does 800x600 native, and uses ultra-bright LEDs with DLP tech to handle the images. It gets 10,000 hours of lamp life but is fairly dim as a result. It is much brighter then the first gen, PK10, but it still gets washed out easily. In a lightly lit room, I can do a 40" image, and in pitch darkness(or almost black), I can project around 60-70" without issue. I'm curious how the brightness of the lasers will be. Will it be able to project a 5' image in a lit room, or will it need the lights fully dimmed? I also wonder what the viewing angle will be, will it be very narrow with a fast drop off to the sides (which would make it less then ideal for portable presentations). Does anyone have any actual specs on the unit?

  16. Cell phones will have these! by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Funny

    No doubt!

    Personally I cant wait - this is TOO much fun, imagine the on-the-fly presentations you can do with this baby, no longer youll have to wave everyone over to your microscopic cell-phone screen to say "watch what I did this weekend".

    Oh wait...

    Thats not good...

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  17. My *future* new favorite hobby by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bear With Me

    I just realized, half the fun of xkcd is sharing - it does help that there is a comic for EVERY occasion.

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  18. Good by DerWulf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very cool product. The name sucks though. Google finds 2.560.000.000 hits for "SHOW".

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  19. Re:I bet the image is horrible by awol · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, those scanning electron beams suck so much, the laser has got to suck too. Right??

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  20. I Mis-read the headline by mrpacmanjel · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a brief moment I thought it said "World's Smallest Penis" !

    I thought "that's funny I didn't see a webcam in my bathroom this morning" !

  21. 848 by 480 by DavidD_CA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why don't these devices support normal resolutions?

    If they are going through all that trouble to make a really cool tiny projector, can't they figure out how to make it support 1024x768 without resampling the image down?

    I realize that 848 by 480 is used by some video formats and is 16:9, but still. Anyone using this to show a lecture or demonstrate how to use a computer program is going to be disappointed.

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  22. Why do I get the feeling... by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Interesting
    that the MPAA are not going to be impressed with it...

    "It's a great for-use mode when it comes to spontaneously sharing content with your friends," said Russell Hannigan, Microvision's Director of Product Management for Consumer Projection Displays.

    and that they'll insist on it being DRM'd to death

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  23. zardoz...! by apodyopsis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    anybody remember that Sean Connery scifi flick Zardoz? An good well thought out plot and Charlotte Rampling's knockers could not save it from some hammed up acting and a general public with no intelligence. But one of the cooler points of the film was the rings that all the immortals wore - voice driven data interfaces to the central computer (called the tabernacle if memory serves me well..) and capable of projecting images, movies and information onto any nearby wall with perfect clarity.

    we now have projected keyboards, mini laser projectors and infra-red tracking - come on, lets build our own mini computers and dump those expensive power hungry boxes on our desks. if we could finally solve the porblem of mesh computing and get rid of the ISP monopolies then that would be fantastic as well, lets hope OLPC proves the concept viable..

  24. Microthis, Microthat by Conanymous+Award · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's up with all these companies from Redmond, Washington being called Microsomething? Is Microvision something that is needed to see Bill's Micro-soft?

  25. Re:I bet the image is horrible by wjsteele · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I built a scanning laser projector that can easily update 60 times per second. It wasn't using MEMS either, which are smaller and much faster, but it was using Galvos.

    Considering your eyes work at around 24 frames per second, I'd say it was acceptable. (TV and Computer monitors run at 60fps as well.)

    Now that I think about it, DLP Televisions are using MEMS devices with an array of mirrors that move just as fast... and I've never heard complaints about their refresh rate.

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  26. More interested in the laser technology by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, small is cool, but these laser projection systems seem better than LCD/Lens. Lower power, cooler, presumably no need to focus. And can easily be made quite portable at a higher resolution.

  27. Re:I bet the image is horrible by tgd · · Score: 2

    The scanning electron beam is exciting phosphors that continue to glow long after the beam has passed by.

    With a laser on a standard surface, it has to be bright enough to overwhelm the receptors in your eye so your eye still thinks it sees it until the beam gets back to that spot again.

    Not even remotely similar.

  28. Re:I bet the image is horrible by myz24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I dislike LED brake lights because they appear to flicker. I also see rainbows on 4x DLP projectors. Do I have superman eyes?

  29. "24fps" is a myth.... by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole "24fps" thing was invented by Disney and it relates to smooth *movement*, not lack of flicker.

    Cinemas can get away with lower frame rates because film projectors have a duty cycle where each image stays in place for 90-odd percent of the time then they switch to the next frame as quickly as possible (this is why film projectors make a clattering noise - they jerk the film through the mechanism). This means that most of the time there's a solid image being projected.

    CRT monitors flicker a *lot* at 60Hz, and they've got persistence of image in the phosphor. To completely eliminate CRT flicker you have to go to 75Hz or more. Even then that only eliminates flicker in the center of vision, you can still see it in the corner of your eye where there's more rods than cones.

    With no persistence the human eye can see flicker well over 100Hz, maybe even as high as 150Hz.

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  30. Rainbows on DLP projectors. by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, I see them as well, and so do many other people.

    Sorry.

    PS: DLP doesn't scan the image line by line, it projects the entire image all at once. This gives it a much wider duty cycle (ratio of "on" to "off") than a scanning laser beam. A wide duty cycle reduces flicker a *lot*, it's the only reason DLP projectors work at all.

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  31. $200-300? No. by Kalewa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The eeeeeeepc was supposed to be $200 too. That stupid OLED keyboard was supposed to be $500. I don't see this going for less than $600 by the time the bean counters get done with it. For $200-299 it's a toy, and everyone will buy one, but very few companies seem to understand that price point. I'll believe it when I see it.

  32. Re:Mess with the teachers by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A classroom? Are you kidding? Think about using this in a White House Press Room Briefing to project video evidence of the lies!

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  33. PWM Cadillac taillights by name_already_taken · · Score: 2, Informative

    I dislike LED brake lights because they appear to flicker.

    I see this most of all on Cadillacs, when the parking lights are on, but the brake lights are not - particularly if you turn your head while looking at the lights. The LEDs on Cadillacs apparently are dimmed by a PWM circuit that flashes the LEDs rapidly to simulate the lower brightness level. This is a totally inappropriate way of controlling the brightness of lights on a moving vehicle, because it makes for weird strobe-light effects in traffic, and it's actually more expensive and introduces more failure points than the alternative. It really makes Cadillacs look bad.

    The aftermarket LED lights used on heavy trucks do not flicker unless there is a bad connection somewhere. They are designed using the simplest method of dimming for the parking light function - a simple pair of diodes to isolate the brake and parking light inputs, and a resistor in line with the parking light input.

    Pretty much all LED third brake light (CHMSL) modules do not flicker at all as they generally have no dimming function and are either on or off. If you're seeing them flicker, you may be hallucinating.

    I also see rainbows on 4x DLP projectors. Do I have superman eyes?

    No, probably just a brain tumor.

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  34. ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!! by tm2b · · Score: 2, Interesting
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