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Origin of the iPhone

rambilly brings us a story from Wired about the origin and development of the iPhone. From the article: "Steve Jobs had tasked about 200 of Apple's top engineers with creating the iPhone. Yet here, in Apple's boardroom, it was clear that the prototype was still a disaster. It wasn't just buggy, it flat-out didn't work. The phone dropped calls constantly, the battery stopped charging before it was full, data and applications routinely became corrupted and unusable. The list of problems seemed endless. At the end of the demo, Jobs fixed the dozen or so people in the room with a level stare and said, 'We don't have a product yet.' The effect was even more terrifying than one of Jobs' trademark tantrums. When the Apple chief screamed at his staff, it was scary but familiar. This time, his relative calm was unnerving. 'It was one of the few times at Apple when I got a chill,' says someone who was in the meeting."

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  1. Dupetastic! by appleguru · · Score: 4, Informative

    While, granted, this article has a much more fitting title than the last, this is a bloody dupe from yesterday!

    1. Re:Dupetastic! by appleguru · · Score: 5, Funny

      Check again... they're two entirely different summaries of the exact same Wired article.

    2. Re:Dupetastic! by RuBLed · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes... and the GP is wrong because nobody here RTFA. I'm so going to submit this link and put a story on how lemurs eat eagles during the jurrasic period...

    3. Re:Dupetastic! by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

      does it explain why the lemurs didn't wait until the lunch period to eat the eagles? Plus, I don't really think they did eat the eagles because didn't they just have a new album?

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  2. Spine Tingling by AlphaDrake · · Score: 2, Funny

    The other time he got a chill?

    The second Windows was successfully put on a mac. 0_0

  3. Compulsory... by jmpeax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tantrum? Real men throw chairs!

  4. gulp by Smartcowboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    This article reads like one from Reader's Digest.

  5. Mobile Development by wombatmobile · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TFA describes how Jobs and co. designed a great device, and makes the point that traditional mobile phone handset businesses has been stifled and denied the opportunity to innovate by network operators.

    It is nice that Apple is innovating, and computing on telephone platforms is advancing.

    But progress may still be limited by network operators for the time being because to deploy software or services, providers have to go through the network operators.

    And to consume services, consumers must first access the networks through the network operators.

    Round 1 to Apple with the iphone. Round 2 is software and services.

    Can innovation in software and services flourish despite network operators trying to gatekeep and tax all revenue opportunities whether they understand them or not?
    1. Re:Mobile Development by Johnno74 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But progress may still be limited by network operators for the time being because to deploy software or services, providers have to go through the network operators.


      I don't believe this is a risk, at least everywhere except the US. I have a sybian phone, I can install whatever I like on it, without going through the teleco's network. Plenty of applications use web access on the phone just like apps on a regular PC - things like web browsers, chat apps, SSH, youtube, google maps, etc etc. I've even seen a web server for my phone. I've seen VoIP clients for my phone.

      The teleco is just an ISP. We stil have network neutrality, and thats not likely to change. Yes, my teleco has their own lame walled garden of websites that you can browse for free, and download wallpapers and ringtones for an outrageous price - but there is nothing stopping customers (except stupidity) from going to a regular website and downloading the ringtones, wallpapers, 3rd party apps and whatever.
    2. Re:Mobile Development by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That excuse always got me as well. While I have my beefs with windows mobile, it's been around for ages and is far more open than the iphone. Not only can I write for it in pretty much any language I want, I can even use most of the same toolkits I'd use for desktop development. Heck, I can use most of the toolkits and libraries that I use for desktop development on linux. And yet somehow satellites haven't been falling from the sky as a result.

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    3. Re:Mobile Development by Moonpie+Madness · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My Sony Ericsson seems to have a pretty decent OS, user interface, clean package, and seamless multimedia. It's not partnered with cell providers in any meaningful way... but why the hell would I want that?

      And my phone came free with my cell phone plan. It holds 8 gbs. Right now, two movies and thousands of songs and hundreds of pictures. It can transfer content very easily to virtually any device that accepts bluetooth, IR, takes a memory stick, or has a USB port. I can put any software on it I like very easily, and Sony provides free programs on the internet. I don't have to download any of it over my cell connection.

      Now, emailing on this little pad is kinda crappy, but it is also crappy on the iphone. I can get internet on my Ericsson, and it transfers to my laptop. I can leave the phone in my pocket and have a decent connection wherever I go.

      In short, the points you mention are just whispy little nice things you could say about nearly anything electronic these days. None of it explains why the iphone is so trendy. The iphone is a great device solely because of its touch-screen innovations, and it's nice and large screen. That's it (but that can be a lot if you like that stuff). The interface is fine. But that's a minimal standard. The interfaces on most devices in that price range is fine. That lack of tactile sucks, but it's just matter of prioritizing. IF you send a lot of emails, you should get something else. If you like gorgeous and new tech and watching your photos, etc, wherever you go, the iphone is cool. I personally think the Sony is better at music and OS, but that's just taste.

    4. Re:Mobile Development by deitrahs · · Score: 2, Funny
      I have a sybian phone,

      that's one hell of a vibrate setting you've got there...

    5. Re:Mobile Development by msdschris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A real sybian phone?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybian
      How exciting.

  6. Re:dupe by jonpublic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    its hilarious slashdot has a script to tag when a reply is a duplicate, but no script to stop duplicate stories on the front page.

  7. Origin of the iPhone? by rampant+mac · · Score: 2, Informative

    You should see the origin of the original article posted yesterday. ./

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  8. Boom by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Funny

    FTFA : This 4.8-ounce sliver of glass and aluminum is an explosive device that has forever changed the mobile-phone business

    What an appropriate metaphor to refer to the success of a product that is powered by a lithium-ion battery.

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  9. Bullshit! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

    It fell out of the sky, accompanied by a host of angels. Everyone knows that.

    Then, hovering in the air, surrounded by a wreath of misty light and cherubim, it received it's first call from God who delivered the three prophecies of Cupertina.

    The first was a vision of Hell, which looked like an AT&T service agreement and 900 page bill.

    The second was how to save (switch) souls from the clutches of Vista and delivered by the Virgin Mary herself in the guise of Ellen Feiss.

    The third is held under tight guard by high ranking members of the Huckabee presidential campaign, and is to be revealed on the first New Moon after the current Pope dies.

    So let it be written. So let it be dumb.

  10. I hate bosses like that by syousef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The effect was even more terrifying than one of Jobs' trademark tantrums. When the Apple chief screamed at his staff, it was scary but familiar. This time, his relative calm was unnerving. 'It was one of the few times at Apple when I got a chill,' says someone who was in the meeting."

    The only reason to fear your boss is that your boss can effectively end your livelihood or career. Lauding power over people like that, throwing tantrums, and scaring your employees by staring them down or through false calm just makes me very happy I've never worked for such people. I've had some excellent bosses who've produced some excellent results and none of them have ruled by fear. There's one I remember who got accolades on retiring this year and all anyone could ever say about him was that he was calm and an absolute gentleman under pressure. In contrast when I read about Jobs and Gates I just think "goes to show money won't buy manners".

    As for the iPhone can't say I understand what the fuss about this product is. Last time I participated in a discussion about it someone was rabbiting on about hacks to do video, as if video were an advanced feature for a modern phone. Please!

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    1. Re:I hate bosses like that by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lauding power over people like that, throwing tantrums, and scaring your employees by staring them down or through false calm just makes me very happy I've never worked for such people.

      This was about the first thing that struck me when I read the article - it really doesn't sound like a good working environment to me.

      Also, I suspect working under that kind of pressure is going to significantly increase the number of silly mistakes being made - not great for the stability of the product.

      As for the iPhone can't say I understand what the fuss about this product is. Last time I participated in a discussion about it someone was rabbiting on about hacks to do video, as if video were an advanced feature for a modern phone. Please!

      I have still to work out what the iPhone's target market is. It isn't a smartphone - it's lacking in too many features that smartphone users expect from their phones (such as being able to run third party software, using the phone to connect their notebook to the internet, etc), yet it is priced up there with the smartphones (more expensive than many too, and most of the smartphones can do 3G).

      Sure, the iPhone's UI is supposed to be excellent, but what's the good in a nice UI if the phone is lacking the the features the target market needs?

    2. Re:I hate bosses like that by eshefer · · Score: 2, Informative

      "but what's the good in a nice UI if the phone is lacking the the features the target market needs?"

      first, it's NOT targeting the smart-phone market, it's targeting the consumer market. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      not that it matters now anyway. last I heard it had a 30% of the smartphones sold in the US in the last few months, and has out sold ALL win-mobile based phones combined in that time frame. aparantly it's not doing too bad.

      it is an open ended device in that it's easly upgradable by apple, at the moment. What's going to happen when the API is released (this february)? let me give you a clue: it will be the the mobile platform with the most developers. by far. from the get go - all indy mac devs will be on that API as soon as it is released. Others will follow.

    3. Re:I hate bosses like that by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      first, it's NOT targeting the smart-phone market, it's targeting the consumer market. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      I'm sorry, I can't believe that you can consider an iPhone to be targetting what you call the "consumer" market (as if smart-phones weren't aimed at consumers too). Let's see: It is pretty bulky and is really expensive - kind of like a smartphone. Certainly not the same market as "consumer" phones such as the Razr, etc.

      not that it matters now anyway. last I heard it had a 30% of the smartphones sold in the US in the last few months, and has out sold ALL win-mobile based phones combined in that time frame. aparantly it's not doing too bad.

      But you just said it wasn't targetting the smartphone market, so why are you comparing iPhone sales with smartphone sales? It would seem to be more sensible to compare iPhone sales with "consumer" phone sales (I'm pretty sure you'll find that "consumer" phones massively outsell smartphones too).

      it is an open ended device in that it's easly upgradable by apple, at the moment. What's going to happen when the API is released (this february)?

      If you buy something based on what a company says they will do in the future you are crazy - businesses make huge U-turns all the time, and I've lost count of the number of devices I've got where the manufacturer has said "oh, and it's upgradable so bugs will get fixed over the life of the product", only to find out that the life of the product is about a year and they made 1 firmware release (which didn't address most of the serious bugs) before end-of-lifeing it.

      let me give you a clue: it will be the the mobile platform with the most developers. by far. from the get go - all indy mac devs will be on that API as soon as it is released. Others will follow.

      I won't hold my breath - Symbian, PalmOS, etc. may be crap platforms, but they do have a hell of a lot of developers. And they have embraced third party developers from the start rather than giving them the finger and then deciding later on that maybe they should allow third party development after all.

      I'm afraid I won't be buying an iPhone - it's far too expensive, massively lacks most of the features I need from a phone and Apple have repeatedly shown that they are more interested in locking devices down and trying to control the whole market rather than allowing their customers to fully utilise what they have spent their money on. Just because they have decided that they need to produce an open API *now* doesn't negate their actions in the past and doesn't promise a great future.

    4. Re:I hate bosses like that by LKM · · Score: 2, Informative

      It should be pointed out that the people who actually know Jobs tend to disagree with this public notion of him as a mercurial asshat.

      As for your comment on the iPhone, you don't understand what the fuss is precisely because you think that more features make a better phone. Please!

    5. Re:I hate bosses like that by coolGuyZak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sorry, I can't believe that you can consider an iPhone to be targetting what you call the "consumer" market (as if smart-phones weren't aimed at consumers too). Let's see: It is pretty bulky and is really expensive - kind of like a smartphone. Certainly not the same market as "consumer" phones such as the Razr, etc

      Smart-phones are marketed to the consumer market, but they're designed for a technical or professional market. The iPhone, on the other hand, is both marketed and designed as a high-end consumer device. Note, this doesn't prevent an owner or developer from treating it like a smartphone.

      As an aside concerning the bulk, it's not a big deal in my experience. The iPhone is comfortable enough to hold up to your head for short periods of time. After 10 minutes or so, you should either be finished your call or put on the headphones (for hands-free use).

      But you just said it wasn't targetting the smartphone market, so why are you comparing...

      So wait,... You argue in the first paragraph that smartphones are, in fact, consumer devices, but bemoan his argument concerning smartphone market. Maybe you guys should agree to agree here. ;)

    6. Re:I hate bosses like that by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Note, this doesn't prevent an owner or developer from treating it like a smartphone.

      Sure it does - it is missing many of the features that makes a smartphone a smartphone (no, having to apply un supported 3rd party hacks, or having to wait while Apple decides to allow access to *some* of the features does not count).

      As an aside concerning the bulk, it's not a big deal in my experience. The iPhone is comfortable enough to hold up to your head for short periods of time.

      Notice I said "bulk" not "weight" - the iphone is much much bigger to carry around than any other "consumer" phone. It's size is on-par with smartphones, not "consumer" phones.

      After 10 minutes or so, you should either be finished your call or put on the headphones (for hands-free use).

      You seriously expect people to carry headphones around with them _as well_ as the bulky phone?

      So wait,... You argue in the first paragraph that smartphones are, in fact, consumer devices, but bemoan his argument concerning smartphone market. Maybe you guys should agree to agree here. ;)

      No, I said the use of the word "consumer" was a bad one. There are two markets - the smartphone market and the non-smartphone market. Both markets have consumers - the original poster used the word "consumer" to describe only the latter. And yes, I have used the same word (but quoted) to describe this market because I didn't really want to get bogged down in a language-war.

      My complaint here is that the poster stated the the iPhone wasn't targetting the smartphone market and then stated it must be doing well because it has outsold Windows smartphones. Making comparisons between two markets like this is completely meaningless - it's like me declaring that a car manufacturer must be doing well because they've sold more cars than Airbus have sold planes this year. If you're going to make comparisons about how well something is doing you need to compare with other products _in the same market_.

    7. Re:I hate bosses like that by firewood · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've worked for bosses like that. Their track record has been such that the fear isn't over one's career, since one can often get another job that will pay just as well, but that one will not live up to those bosses standards of creating products that sometimes achieve great and sustained market acceptance, as well as being a business success. The employee stock from companies with the nice bosses hasn't done nearly as well over the long haul in my small statistical sampling. YMMV.

  11. Re:06-12-17 status of mobile os market share by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which is all fine and good, but the iPhone is NOT A SMARTPHONE. At ALL.

    It has NONE of the hallmarks of a traditional smartphone.

    "Most devices considered smartphones today use an identifiable operating system, often with the ability to add applications (e.g. for enhanced data processing, connectivity or entertainment) - in contrast to regular phones which only support sandboxed applications[citation needed]. These smartphone applications may be developed by the manufacturer of the device, by the network operator or by any other third-party software developer[citation needed]."

      Yes, I left the 'citation needed' remarks, in respect of Wikipedia's information model.

      The iPhone is a really fancy phone, perhaps a decent pocket-sized multimedia device, but smartphone/PDA it ain't - without hacking it, of course, until Apple decides to 'update' it for you.

      Therefore it's futile to compare it to Blackberry/Windows Mobile/Palm devices.

  12. News? by MikeRR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this news?

    Some boss has a tantrum in the past when a product is behind schedule.

    Might have been news if it was reported AT THE TIME, before the iphone was released,
    but now?

    Nope..

  13. repeating lies by nguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    and makes the point that traditional mobile phone handset businesses has been stifled and denied the opportunity to innovate by network operators.

    In fact, several major US carriers (AT&T, Cingular, T-Mobile, probably others) have had GSM systems for years. They work with third party GSM phones, including the fully programmable Palm, Windows Mobile, and Nokia devices. Furthermore, you can get unlimited data for fairly reasonable monthly fees in the US.

    The notion that Apple is doing anything to rescue us from carries is laughable. Apple's iPhone is a big step backwards: it's carrier locked, it's tied to Apple's desktop application (the only way to get updates), and it's non-programmable (at least for now).

    The iPhone is a giant step backwards for smartphones and innovation.

    If you want an innovative phone that doesn't try to shackle you, get a Symbian, Palm, or Windows Mobile phone.

    1. Re:repeating lies by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I dont know where you have been hiding, but both Palm and Windows smartphones are JUST as bad. They might not be carrier exclusives (and the reason behind Apples exclusive deal with AT&T has been repeated time and again to be more about service than any want to lock in) but both are ALSO tied to their own exclusive programs with 3rd party solutions buggy at best, and both at first where also non-programmable (yes they where and anyone who says otherwise is a liar), and only opened up a year or two later.

      And this doesnt address the fact that all three are buggy as hell STILL. Mobile 5 was so bad people backgraded their phones to 4.

      It has not even been a year for Apples product and they have already promised to open up their programing before the year mark. So your argument is basically null and void.

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  14. Re:It really is the CEO by arcite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But its true. Consider...if the iphone had tanked, there is a good chance that not only Jobs would be out of a Job but that Apple could be out of luck as well. The CEO can take all the glory but they also take all the blame.

  15. Re:06-12-17 status of mobile os market share by CaptainZapp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    * Symbian is huge everywhere besides North America, but obviously has the most to lose with the iPhone being released around the world next year. Don't expect Symbian to post these numbers on their website as they have in the past.

    The reception of the IPhone in the European key markets (UK, Germany, France) has been lukewarm at best. I'm not saying that Apple may not be a threat to Symbian in Europe in the future, but for the time being they're far from it.

    * Apple is poised to be the number one US Smartphone vendor next year if trends keep up.

    I'd wager that this is due to a fact of the abyssimal state of the US handset market. It isn't helped by the carriers who bolt down and cripple the handsets to borderline useless.

    Apple will have a much more difficult time in Europe (let alone Japan) with the iPhone for a variety of reasons.

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  16. iPhone is just another word for vendor lock-in by davide+marney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jobs and his crew have given us a beautiful device but an ugly product. It is completely locked into its two vendors, and is not a good value.

    I hate vendor lock-in. I hate being told how I can use something I bought. It's mine. I paid for it. I've earned the right to control it.

    If a vendor wants my business, he needs to EARN it.

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  17. Another Friday... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...another chance for Apple users to perform virtual fellatio on Steve Jobs.

    Move along. Nothing to see here. Unless you're in the elitist minority.

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  18. Re:dupe by McGiraf · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's really funny, Slashdot has a script to tag reply duplicates, but not duplicates articles on the front page.

  19. The article is good, it just fails to mention by Britz · · Score: 3, Informative

    one tiny little bit.

    THE COMPETITION

    When the article talks about all the things they needed to work out how the phone connects to networks and how the brain gets microwaved (or not) it fails to mention, that this is only news to Apple, not all the other mobile phone manufacturers of the world. Especially when the article talks about the phone being light years ahead it completely resolves into pure Apple fanboy talk.

    Those are just three examples of phones that you could compare to the Iphone:
    http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/ke850.jhtml
    http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch.htm
    http://uk.samsungmobile.com/mobile/SGH-F700

    I have one just like the last Samsung model. Mine also has WLan and, like the Samsung, it has a full sized keyboard. Nokia is not even on that list. All of the phone makers have a wide variaty of phones to fit every customers preferred style. Candy bar being the best liked. Many have important features that the Iphone is lacking. Like UMTS support to get decent speed for surfing whe web. Opera build a decent web browser complete with a proxy that "refits" webpages so they look good on a small screen years ago. It is written in Java and works on many phones.

    The mobile phone market has enough players that the competition actually works (not like the OS market for PCs). Of those three phones up the all of them use a different OS for example. The HTC model even uses Microsoft Mobile, an OS that sucks less and less with each version, because they face a steep competition by Symbian. And Google just joined.

    There are just two things that were new with the IPhone. First was the touchscreen that you can operate on with more than one finger. A feature that is pretty cool and was therefore swiftly copied by everyone else.

    The second thing is the Apple marketing. The only thing right now that makes Apple stand out. That and their tie in with Itunes. Itunes has such a large market share, it almost became a monopoly. And now they try to extend that power to other products and markets. Sounds familiar? Another reason why the IPod-ITunes connection works so good.

    And that brings us to the last little thing which the article good completely right. Back in 2002 (I would say even earlier, but the article says that was when Jobs woke up to that fact) it became clear that phones will aquire more and more memory and computing power, just like the regular PC. Some people prefer to have funtions seperate on different devices. They like their music player, phone and PDA, or just one of them. Other people like to have everything in one device. And Jobs/Apple wanted to sell Ipods to those people as well. So the Ipod needed to become a phone and a PDA.

    And it did. Ipod touch is a PDA and the Iphone is a smartphone.

  20. *Your* MP3 player is crippled. by LKM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wait, wait, the iPhone is a phone with the computing power close to my current PC (an old VIA, I can bet the iPhone has a better GPU than my on-board one). Almost its full size is one big screen. Doesn't all this imply that it should be able to run videos easily?

    Yes. And?

    If I would want a phone with less features, I would bloody not spend 900 euros on it

    That's you. I moved from a new P990i to an iPhone. It has a lot less features, but I actually use the features it has, and I'm a lot happier with it.

    For example, if I want an MP3 player, I want to be able to mount it like a flash drive and copy music to and from it.

    Why?

    Okay, I get copying from. That's useful. Fortunately, the iPod actually does allow for this. All your music is stored in an invisible directory which can easily be accessed.

    I just don't get the "copy to" thing, though. I hate those dumb players which force you to use the OS to put music on them when I actually use software to manage my MP3s, and then take a few minutes after I turn them on to read all the ID3 tags into a database, or even worse, just display the music in the hierarchy it is on the device. Not to mention that it leads to all kinds of cumbersome idiocies if I add new music to my library and then want to add only the new music to my player. Also, I use smart playlists extensively. For example, my music collection does not fix on my iPhone, so I use a smart playlists which puts a bunch of random new songs on the iPhone each time I connect it to the Mac, as well as the most recent episode of my favourite podcasts, and new episodes of TV shows I like. Why in the world would I ever trade this to an MP3 player which makes me do all of that by hand?

    I really have no clue why anyone could possibly think that less features could possibly be better, especially after all the other things you've said.

    You want crippled? Your crappy MP3 player which forces you to put music on it using the Windows Explorer, that's crippled.

    I'm afraid I don't get the point of the rest of your rambling about subnotebooks and Apple.

  21. Non-programmable? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Palm and Windows smartphones...both at first where also non-programmable (yes they where and anyone who says otherwise is a liar)

    What, exactly, do you mean my 'non-programmable'? Developing Palm applications is quirky but not particularly hard, and I'm not aware of any Palm phone ever that wouldn't let you load third-party apps. The vast majority of the apps I use each day on my Treo 650 are third-party.

    Do you mean the phone functions themselves aren't programmable? Maybe that was true at the introduction of the early Treos, I didn't have one. Even those would take third-party apps for other functions, though. Nowadays there are multiple applications that add phone and SMS and other functions, and the API is available. I have a hard time believing that the Windows side is much different.

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  22. bullshit by nguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hey might not be carrier exclusives [...] but both are ALSO tied to their own exclusive programs

    You're bullshitting. Palm, Symbian, and Windows Mobile have been available unlocked and have not been tied to any carrier for years.

    and both at first where also non-programmable (yes they where and anyone who says otherwise is a liar), and only opened up a year or two later.

    Again, totally wrong. All three of those systems developed out of programmable PDA platforms. Even if they had been non-programmable a decade ago, it's 2008, and the standard is that smartphones are user-programmable today, both via native APIs and via Java. Apple's iPhone is neither, and it's carrier locked, and it is tied to Apple's desktop.

    It has not even been a year for Apples product and they have already promised to open up their programing before the year mark.

    Apple has been vague on the specifics; just because Jobs calls it "programmable" doesn't mean it is. iPods are "programmable" as well, that doesn't mean that ISVs can create software and offer it for download. Furthermore, iPhones remain locked and tied to Apple's desktop.

    So your argument is basically null and void.

    You are an Apple apologist, and you don't even know your facts.

  23. Iphone by AlphaMaelstrom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The phone dropped calls constantly, the battery stopped charging before it was full, data and applications routinely became corrupted and unusable. The list of problems seemed endless." I got an iphone 2 months ago. Every single word in that sentence still applies. Battery has charging issues they say is a firmware problem,, but it hasn't been fixed yet after several firmware updates, it drops calls constantly (even at full signal strength), and I routinely have to reset the phone to make crashed applications work again. As to problems, howsabout the iphone plan includes MMS, but the phone doesn't support them at all, or the inability to check relatively simple information like your call history while you're in a call?

  24. Re:"Dupe", my arse!! by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where's Occam's razor when you need it, folks? right next to your tinfoil hat? Well, if you think that my straightforward and obvious explanation of the reposts as basic commercial pragmatism (and not conspiratorial evil) is implausible, then so be it.

    Obviously, it's more reasonable to believe that the editors remain in their jobs despite being so mentally incompetent that their keyboards should have short-circuited through filling up with drool, and that Slashdot keeps itself afloat financially through the generosity of the Magical Website Fairies...
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