This is food for thought. It's the interesting banter to provide a bit of context and fun. It's like the crossword puzzle or the Garden Tips in your local newspaper.
So ease off a bit... no one is depending on this article for anything but a bit of fun thinking. And who knows, they could very well be right! so what if it's very unlikely? Common sense, after all, tells us the Earth is flat.
Aside from a very brief period months ago, all data this year indicates Walmart is the current leader. The headline that Apple is "now" the leader is simply not true, and I don't see how that can go uncorrected, but it probably will. Every tech site picked this up today. Either they all made the exact same (difficult to make) mistake, or this is an advertisement masquerading as news.
I hope you're right and Apple manages to positively influence the market. Probably some truth to it, but Brick and Mortar is still king.
Sorry pal, but you're going to have to back up that extreme position you're taking, because all research indicated there is a correlation between high school graduation and intelligence.
Sorry you met a dumbass or two with a diploma. But I'm relying on facts and you're relying on anecdote and claiming I'm the one with the fallacy.
Sure, there are geniuses who fail to graduate. There are tons of morons who do graduate... but the group of non graduates is definitely dumber, as a group, than those who did graduate. Anyone disputing this had better have something freaking powerful to rely on (of course, no such evidence exists because I'm right).
My hunch is that the average army member is competent or better, incompetent people are filtered out but a lot of smart people tend towards other professions.
Your hunch is correct, and without the bottom half of the bell curve, I assure you that you wind up with a much smarter group than the general population.
Not smarter than a college campus (even a community college campus)... smarter than a population including every dumbass out there.
you're kinda muddled here. Not only do you not provide any source for the actual national graduation rate, but you're not making clear if that figure includes GED passers.
Also, while the military has a 100% graduation rate if you count GED passers, it makes little sense to compare national graduation rates at any ages and compare it to only new recruits in one branch and not the entire military of all ages. Do you understand why?
Fact is, it's actually not that easy to determine the precise level of high school graduation. All I know is that in Austin, Texas, less than 60% of students graduate, yet in the military, approximately 95% of soldiers have a high school diploma, notwithstanding the article you linked. And Austin is one of the most educated cities in America.
Anyway, if you really insist on using national graduation, you need to provide that figure, and be sure it's not including GEDs and is only accounting for the young.
HAHA, well, many people are like you, and would try to calm down and handle themselves when their life is on the line. But, understandably, some people freeze up, and that's why a lot of weapons have very simple and obvious warnings on them.
I mean, my toaster as a "do not use in bathtub" picture on the bottom of it". My Playstation 2 comes with a similar warning. Same with my Thinkpad.
It's not fair to point to a rocket launcher, something capable of destroying nearly any vehicle and killing nearly anyone, and say its obvious instructions are evidence of stupidity.
Frankly, the AT-4 is not obvious to operate. For example, it does not have a pistol-style trigger, the sights are extremely flimsy, and it's not apparent at first glance which end the rocket exits and what kind of risks there are at which angles behind the device (though it may be obvious that directly behind it is unsafe). And few people have experience firing rocket launchers.
So unlike the idiotic warnings we have all around us, rocket launchers actually need a few simple instructions... not to mention how they are used in terrible circumstances (with running, low light, injuries, pressure, against someone who is probably going to die if you succeed in using your rocket launcher).
Just seems like there are probably better examples of stupidity in the military than that. I probably would argue against most of those too, but this one is particularly absurd.
what a pathetic troll attempt. A: the radio is in use in the military today, even if it's been superseded by a superior model. B: even if it wasn't it's representative of a normal Army radio terminal and therefore my argument is still sound.
What exactly did you think you were proving, anyway?
You realize that if you are trying to fire an AT-4 you're probably being attacked by a tank or something? Don't you think you might have a hard time concentrating on difficult instructions? The simple instructions are meant to help a person operate something like a rocket launcher while under severe pressure. You can't compare this to anything that doesn't involve the direct possibility of death. It's not like office phones in the army have a "pick up receiver and talk into this end" sticker.
How simple is that for the average mcdonald's employee to operate? It's not that bad, but it's not labeled for use by a 4th grader (that's an ancient canard and it's bullshit).
AKO does suck, but trust me, it's extremely convenient in many ways. I've gotten into touch with old pals from a decade ago just be guessing their ako email. You can get your DD-214 in.pdf, handle promotion points, etc etc.
The only real problem is that you can't forward your emails to gmail style services. But I think that's to help you remember your password or something. I know the email system isn't very good, and you'd be silly to rely on it for personal email. Hope it gets better though.
By the way, you apparently don't know anything about domain registration rules if you think the army doesn't, can't, or shouldn't use.com domains.
As a democrat, I'm getting sick and tired of you imbeciles screwing up our national unity (because it's obvious you aren't a Republican). Soldiers are the ultimate public servant, are not stupid, should not be spat upon, and generally would try to obey every order Obama gave them, even on pain of death. By attacking soldiers instead of the policies they are obeying (out of the noble loyalty to you and me, citizens), you are proving yourself to truly be an idiot.
ya know, it's pretty likely that the Army isn't just informing its members about online scams, but also getting data for use by the cyber command, the FBI, whoever. It would be handy to know which attacks work against whom, and they know more about that now.
There is nothing wrong with the military's affiliates using.com for legit businesses. Many military arms pull a profit (such as the PX: http://aafes.com/ ).mil isn't for that stuff. Note that millions of people relying on services like this are civilians.
I'm not pretending the army is full of Einsteins, but they all graduated high school or earned a GED (vast vast majority graduated high school), and all of them are required to learn math skills involving chemical attack detection, navigation, operating a frequency hopping radio, etc.
Compare that to kids in the average US city, where 50% do not graduate high school.
The Army is certainly a lot smarter than the general population. They may be more willing to rely on titles (like MWR)... I don't know about that, but I'd like to know who is buying the Carter era propaganda that the army is a bunch of idiots.
But generally, the DCMA also is wrong. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 states that "no person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under [copyright law]."
The exceptions to this law are things like e-reader books for disabled people or for obsolete formats. Selling circumenvention tools is covered by a different section and isn't really relevant to what I'm talking about. And who the RIAA sues is also irrelevant (but they can sue anyone for anything).
While you're certainly right that no one gives a crap about what I'm doing, since I'm not distributing my files or even downloading them illegally... I'm still technically in violation of a law.
(and yeah, it's certainly illegal to download files you didn't pay for)
This is about fundamental property rights, and my disagreement with the copyright holders over what I own when I buy a song on itunes. It's not really about my concerned with the RIAA, and I don't even mind much when they go after people who are distributing thousands of songs to people who never paid for them. Piracy is not civil disobedience, it's often just douchebaggery.
I'm afraid I don't really know about the mac, but you can always run Windows on a virtual machine or get a very cheap windows box or even run Linux.
I'm guessing there has got to be a way to make an.iso file on a mac though... just seems like a basic capability. A quick google seems to indicate people do that... can you take the.iso and rip it into.mp3s? I have no idea, my friend.
I just wanted to note that you can "burn a cd" by making an.iso file that you then "rip" drm free.mp3 files from. It's a pain in the ass, but it's free as in beer.
It's your music. You probably own half of it on CD. Circumvent the DRM as an act of civil disobedience. I get my music from itunes and use an ipod. I don't bother with torrent for music, and the DRM doesn't directly impact my life much... in fact, I have to reinput all the id3 stuff by removing the DRM...
yet all 10,000 of my songs have no DRM on them. Not only as an insurance policy, but because DRM is wrong.
You're right of course. Language is a muddy thing, and gets muddier. That's why you can't say "unique" and expect people to realize you mean "one of a kind" and not "very unusual".
That's not my fault. I'm just the messenger. My dictionaries tell the same story, too. English is a language built on absorbing new words and repeatedly changing. That's why it's both the best and worst language in human history.
Fact is, words change. I would barely be able to communicate with an English speaker from 300 years ago. There are dead languages, such as latin, that are kept dead specifically do they don't change like this. But with English, you are speaking the language of Paris Hilton, Keanu Reeves, and the US president. It isn't a pretty picture, and if people going with English's constant fluid change as I do provokes you, you're just not "getting it." I certainly don't mean that as an insult, but it is in your interest to expect words to lose meaning, to expect grammatical rules to be revoked, etc etc etc. Fighting it is like fighting a river with a spoon, my friend.
hahaha. I was looking forward to seeing someone get animated over that pun.
But the fact is, it's actually semantically proper to modify the work "unique." The basic meaning "one of a kind" obviously can't be modified, but in today's world, Unique has other meanings, including "very unusual," which obviously can be modified.
so it's possible to say "very unique," and, in fact, saying it is a great way to provoke nutty folk.
Not to mention that "two unique" could also mean "two things that aren't similar to eachother".
There is no tolerance whatsover. Dhimmi aren't tolerated, they are persecuted. You pay a fine for your non submission (literally what it's called), and they can take your home for any Muslim. Basically, to be dhimmi, you have to live in such a hovel that no Muslim would demand you be displaced so he could take it. And the persecution was much further, of course.
The idea that dhimmi means that Islam can coexist with others is totally Bullshit.
That's not to say that Muslims can't live alongside others, as this is certainly the case. And it's not as though other religions, including Christianity, have not also persecuted, but your point is bunk, totally.
You're right that you don't have to upgrade your PC every two years to play games, but they won't be PS3 level quality if you don't.
I play Nintendo games on my PC, ironically. I don't need more than a very old Thinkpad to do it.
And while Sony indeed has been laughably ridiculous in exaggerating their console's performance, the PS3 looks better than 99.9% (likely more than that) of PCs being used today. It's not even close.
But your core point, that games coming out today should work on old tech in reduced quality, is not the case for everyone. Direct X10, wierd windows things, etc, are making that untrue.
How do you play Wolfenstein without dosbox? even with those odd apps, there are a lot of problems. PCs are becoming far too clumsy a vehicle for games. And Macs and laptops in general are really changing the focus on design. I don't even want a nice video card. I want a weak one that doesn't take up my battery.
While you can have a lot of fun PC gaming, it is more difficult and more expensive than console gaming. If you don't mind playing older uglier games on your 2 year old computer, why are you comparing price to the PS3 and not the PS2? If that's really where you're coming from, there's no way to beat the PS2 in selection, quality, and price. The most you've got is the WASD+mouse argument, but FPSs aren't exactly the market I was worried about.
by "even more" did you mean less? I mean, most folks are buying laptops nowadays. How much money would they have to spend to get their computer to run a game as well as a PS3?
And your 6800, if there's only one, is probably not quite as nice as a PS3's graphically (Half Life 2 isn't a new game and it was an EA port, so perhaps this isn't the case int his one, and certainly the PS3 has many problems beyond sheer graphics ability we are all familiar with)
How about upgrading your console every ten years? That's worked fine for me, and I've owned every iteration of Playstation. PS2, today, is better for gaming than a $10,000 PC. Graphics aren't as good, but are the games are much better.
From a cost perspective, upgrading your console very 4 years is much cheaper, perhaps even by en exponent, then upgrading your processor, RAM, and video card (And everything else, ever two years (ok, you don't need to upgrade the CPU until the third year).
Also, if you think the average PC plays Oblivion as well as an XBOX 360, you're crazy. Oblivion is still a lot better on a PC thanks to the freedom you're granted to play with the program, but graphically, the kind of graphics my year old thinkpad (laptops are the norm now) can't even run a game as well as a PS2.
And consider this: the average computer... the old computer even, can use the internet and office applications. The usefulness of the device lasts so long after the gaming potential has dwindled to old games only. You can just hand on to that useful PC and use something else for gaming!
I should note that I game on my PC quite a lot and think it's a lot more fun, but I realize that the normal consumer gets far, far more value from an old PC and a new console (or an old console of course). And I was responding to comments about price.
If Pong had never been invented (say breakout was the first game of this kind), and was released today, would you play it?
No.
It's not timeless. You are nostalgic. Nothing wrong with that; Pong is a very interesting thing. It's like a museum.
Would Super Mario Brothers be popular if released today? I think so, so a few old games are timeless. I don't think Pre Ocarina of Time Zeldas are timeless so much as the birdseye action RPG (whatever the morons call the genre) genre is. Tetris, maybe Pacman, only a few games like that, really would be popular if released today.
Games are just better now. I think people take it for granted or even deny the obvious.
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no one is pretending this isn't speculation.
This is food for thought. It's the interesting banter to provide a bit of context and fun. It's like the crossword puzzle or the Garden Tips in your local newspaper.
So ease off a bit... no one is depending on this article for anything but a bit of fun thinking. And who knows, they could very well be right! so what if it's very unlikely? Common sense, after all, tells us the Earth is flat.
Aside from a very brief period months ago, all data this year indicates Walmart is the current leader. The headline that Apple is "now" the leader is simply not true, and I don't see how that can go uncorrected, but it probably will. Every tech site picked this up today. Either they all made the exact same (difficult to make) mistake, or this is an advertisement masquerading as news.
I hope you're right and Apple manages to positively influence the market. Probably some truth to it, but Brick and Mortar is still king.
Sorry pal, but you're going to have to back up that extreme position you're taking, because all research indicated there is a correlation between high school graduation and intelligence.
Sorry you met a dumbass or two with a diploma. But I'm relying on facts and you're relying on anecdote and claiming I'm the one with the fallacy.
Sure, there are geniuses who fail to graduate. There are tons of morons who do graduate... but the group of non graduates is definitely dumber, as a group, than those who did graduate. Anyone disputing this had better have something freaking powerful to rely on (of course, no such evidence exists because I'm right).
My hunch is that the average army member is competent or better, incompetent people are filtered out but a lot of smart people tend towards other professions.
Your hunch is correct, and without the bottom half of the bell curve, I assure you that you wind up with a much smarter group than the general population.
Not smarter than a college campus (even a community college campus)... smarter than a population including every dumbass out there.
It's not an especially bold claim I'm making.
you're kinda muddled here. Not only do you not provide any source for the actual national graduation rate, but you're not making clear if that figure includes GED passers.
Also, while the military has a 100% graduation rate if you count GED passers, it makes little sense to compare national graduation rates at any ages and compare it to only new recruits in one branch and not the entire military of all ages. Do you understand why?
Fact is, it's actually not that easy to determine the precise level of high school graduation. All I know is that in Austin, Texas, less than 60% of students graduate, yet in the military, approximately 95% of soldiers have a high school diploma, notwithstanding the article you linked. And Austin is one of the most educated cities in America.
Anyway, if you really insist on using national graduation, you need to provide that figure, and be sure it's not including GEDs and is only accounting for the young.
HAHA, well, many people are like you, and would try to calm down and handle themselves when their life is on the line. But, understandably, some people freeze up, and that's why a lot of weapons have very simple and obvious warnings on them.
I mean, my toaster as a "do not use in bathtub" picture on the bottom of it". My Playstation 2 comes with a similar warning. Same with my Thinkpad.
It's not fair to point to a rocket launcher, something capable of destroying nearly any vehicle and killing nearly anyone, and say its obvious instructions are evidence of stupidity.
Frankly, the AT-4 is not obvious to operate. For example, it does not have a pistol-style trigger, the sights are extremely flimsy, and it's not apparent at first glance which end the rocket exits and what kind of risks there are at which angles behind the device (though it may be obvious that directly behind it is unsafe). And few people have experience firing rocket launchers.
So unlike the idiotic warnings we have all around us, rocket launchers actually need a few simple instructions... not to mention how they are used in terrible circumstances (with running, low light, injuries, pressure, against someone who is probably going to die if you succeed in using your rocket launcher).
Just seems like there are probably better examples of stupidity in the military than that. I probably would argue against most of those too, but this one is particularly absurd.
what a pathetic troll attempt. A: the radio is in use in the military today, even if it's been superseded by a superior model. B: even if it wasn't it's representative of a normal Army radio terminal and therefore my argument is still sound.
What exactly did you think you were proving, anyway?
I'm responding directly to something that's relevant to the topic, and specifically giving a reasonable reaction to an obvious troll.
Not sure how that's flamebait. Granted, I did call an idiot an idiot.
Face it, whoever rated this down, you just don't agree with attacks on "your side". You know I'm right about this issue.
What is that supposed to prove?
You realize that if you are trying to fire an AT-4 you're probably being attacked by a tank or something? Don't you think you might have a hard time concentrating on difficult instructions? The simple instructions are meant to help a person operate something like a rocket launcher while under severe pressure. You can't compare this to anything that doesn't involve the direct possibility of death. It's not like office phones in the army have a "pick up receiver and talk into this end" sticker.
What a terrible analogy.
The Army has its share of jackasses (not too many anymore, but you can't get rid of them all). But for the most part, soldiers are capable of handling complicated stuff. For example, here's their walkie talkie: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/11-32/fig5-92.gif
How simple is that for the average mcdonald's employee to operate? It's not that bad, but it's not labeled for use by a 4th grader (that's an ancient canard and it's bullshit).
AKO does suck, but trust me, it's extremely convenient in many ways. I've gotten into touch with old pals from a decade ago just be guessing their ako email. You can get your DD-214 in .pdf, handle promotion points, etc etc.
The only real problem is that you can't forward your emails to gmail style services. But I think that's to help you remember your password or something. I know the email system isn't very good, and you'd be silly to rely on it for personal email. Hope it gets better though.
Hi John Kerry! Halp us we is stuk in Irak!
.com domains.
By the way, you apparently don't know anything about domain registration rules if you think the army doesn't, can't, or shouldn't use
As a democrat, I'm getting sick and tired of you imbeciles screwing up our national unity (because it's obvious you aren't a Republican). Soldiers are the ultimate public servant, are not stupid, should not be spat upon, and generally would try to obey every order Obama gave them, even on pain of death. By attacking soldiers instead of the policies they are obeying (out of the noble loyalty to you and me, citizens), you are proving yourself to truly be an idiot.
ya know, it's pretty likely that the Army isn't just informing its members about online scams, but also getting data for use by the cyber command, the FBI, whoever. It would be handy to know which attacks work against whom, and they know more about that now.
.com is widely used.
.com for legit businesses. Many military arms pull a profit (such as the PX: http://aafes.com/ ) .mil isn't for that stuff. Note that millions of people relying on services like this are civilians.
There is nothing wrong with the military's affiliates using
who are these people making that suggestion?
I'm not pretending the army is full of Einsteins, but they all graduated high school or earned a GED (vast vast majority graduated high school), and all of them are required to learn math skills involving chemical attack detection, navigation, operating a frequency hopping radio, etc.
Compare that to kids in the average US city, where 50% do not graduate high school.
The Army is certainly a lot smarter than the general population. They may be more willing to rely on titles (like MWR)... I don't know about that, but I'd like to know who is buying the Carter era propaganda that the army is a bunch of idiots.
Absolutely banks should do this. Ebay, paypal, etc.
Hell your email provider should send you a 419 scam every month or so, and attach "sexy" photos to them.
Seriously would help.
You know, my friend, there are other laws out there. Have you heard of the NET act? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NET_Act
... I'm still technically in violation of a law.
But generally, the DCMA also is wrong. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 states that "no person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under [copyright law]."
The exceptions to this law are things like e-reader books for disabled people or for obsolete formats. Selling circumenvention tools is covered by a different section and isn't really relevant to what I'm talking about. And who the RIAA sues is also irrelevant (but they can sue anyone for anything).
While you're certainly right that no one gives a crap about what I'm doing, since I'm not distributing my files or even downloading them illegally
(and yeah, it's certainly illegal to download files you didn't pay for)
This is about fundamental property rights, and my disagreement with the copyright holders over what I own when I buy a song on itunes. It's not really about my concerned with the RIAA, and I don't even mind much when they go after people who are distributing thousands of songs to people who never paid for them. Piracy is not civil disobedience, it's often just douchebaggery.
I'm afraid I don't really know about the mac, but you can always run Windows on a virtual machine or get a very cheap windows box or even run Linux.
.iso file on a mac though... just seems like a basic capability. A quick google seems to indicate people do that... can you take the .iso and rip it into .mp3s? I have no idea, my friend.
I'm guessing there has got to be a way to make an
I just wanted to note that you can "burn a cd" by making an .iso file that you then "rip" drm free .mp3 files from. It's a pain in the ass, but it's free as in beer.
It's your music. You probably own half of it on CD. Circumvent the DRM as an act of civil disobedience. I get my music from itunes and use an ipod. I don't bother with torrent for music, and the DRM doesn't directly impact my life much... in fact, I have to reinput all the id3 stuff by removing the DRM...
yet all 10,000 of my songs have no DRM on them. Not only as an insurance policy, but because DRM is wrong.
You're right of course. Language is a muddy thing, and gets muddier. That's why you can't say "unique" and expect people to realize you mean "one of a kind" and not "very unusual".
That's not my fault. I'm just the messenger. My dictionaries tell the same story, too. English is a language built on absorbing new words and repeatedly changing. That's why it's both the best and worst language in human history.
Fact is, words change. I would barely be able to communicate with an English speaker from 300 years ago. There are dead languages, such as latin, that are kept dead specifically do they don't change like this. But with English, you are speaking the language of Paris Hilton, Keanu Reeves, and the US president. It isn't a pretty picture, and if people going with English's constant fluid change as I do provokes you, you're just not "getting it." I certainly don't mean that as an insult, but it is in your interest to expect words to lose meaning, to expect grammatical rules to be revoked, etc etc etc. Fighting it is like fighting a river with a spoon, my friend.
hahaha. I was looking forward to seeing someone get animated over that pun.
But the fact is, it's actually semantically proper to modify the work "unique." The basic meaning "one of a kind" obviously can't be modified, but in today's world, Unique has other meanings, including "very unusual," which obviously can be modified.
so it's possible to say "very unique," and, in fact, saying it is a great way to provoke nutty folk.
Not to mention that "two unique" could also mean "two things that aren't similar to eachother".
Wrong.
There is no tolerance whatsover. Dhimmi aren't tolerated, they are persecuted. You pay a fine for your non submission (literally what it's called), and they can take your home for any Muslim. Basically, to be dhimmi, you have to live in such a hovel that no Muslim would demand you be displaced so he could take it. And the persecution was much further, of course.
The idea that dhimmi means that Islam can coexist with others is totally Bullshit.
That's not to say that Muslims can't live alongside others, as this is certainly the case. And it's not as though other religions, including Christianity, have not also persecuted, but your point is bunk, totally.
You're right that you don't have to upgrade your PC every two years to play games, but they won't be PS3 level quality if you don't.
I play Nintendo games on my PC, ironically. I don't need more than a very old Thinkpad to do it.
And while Sony indeed has been laughably ridiculous in exaggerating their console's performance, the PS3 looks better than 99.9% (likely more than that) of PCs being used today. It's not even close.
But your core point, that games coming out today should work on old tech in reduced quality, is not the case for everyone. Direct X10, wierd windows things, etc, are making that untrue.
How do you play Wolfenstein without dosbox? even with those odd apps, there are a lot of problems. PCs are becoming far too clumsy a vehicle for games. And Macs and laptops in general are really changing the focus on design. I don't even want a nice video card. I want a weak one that doesn't take up my battery.
While you can have a lot of fun PC gaming, it is more difficult and more expensive than console gaming. If you don't mind playing older uglier games on your 2 year old computer, why are you comparing price to the PS3 and not the PS2? If that's really where you're coming from, there's no way to beat the PS2 in selection, quality, and price. The most you've got is the WASD+mouse argument, but FPSs aren't exactly the market I was worried about.
by "even more" did you mean less? I mean, most folks are buying laptops nowadays. How much money would they have to spend to get their computer to run a game as well as a PS3?
And your 6800, if there's only one, is probably not quite as nice as a PS3's graphically (Half Life 2 isn't a new game and it was an EA port, so perhaps this isn't the case int his one, and certainly the PS3 has many problems beyond sheer graphics ability we are all familiar with)
How about upgrading your console every ten years? That's worked fine for me, and I've owned every iteration of Playstation. PS2, today, is better for gaming than a $10,000 PC. Graphics aren't as good, but are the games are much better.
From a cost perspective, upgrading your console very 4 years is much cheaper, perhaps even by en exponent, then upgrading your processor, RAM, and video card (And everything else, ever two years (ok, you don't need to upgrade the CPU until the third year).
Also, if you think the average PC plays Oblivion as well as an XBOX 360, you're crazy. Oblivion is still a lot better on a PC thanks to the freedom you're granted to play with the program, but graphically, the kind of graphics my year old thinkpad (laptops are the norm now) can't even run a game as well as a PS2.
And consider this: the average computer... the old computer even, can use the internet and office applications. The usefulness of the device lasts so long after the gaming potential has dwindled to old games only. You can just hand on to that useful PC and use something else for gaming!
I should note that I game on my PC quite a lot and think it's a lot more fun, but I realize that the normal consumer gets far, far more value from an old PC and a new console (or an old console of course). And I was responding to comments about price.
If Pong had never been invented (say breakout was the first game of this kind), and was released today, would you play it?
No.
It's not timeless. You are nostalgic. Nothing wrong with that; Pong is a very interesting thing. It's like a museum.
Would Super Mario Brothers be popular if released today? I think so, so a few old games are timeless. I don't think Pre Ocarina of Time Zeldas are timeless so much as the birdseye action RPG (whatever the morons call the genre) genre is. Tetris, maybe Pacman, only a few games like that, really would be popular if released today.
Games are just better now. I think people take it for granted or even deny the obvious.