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Star Trek-like 'Phraselator' Helps Police

coondoggie writes "Yet another Star Trek-like device is making its way into the real world. VoxTec's Phraselator name sounds a bit like something the Three Stooges might have used long ago but no, this PDA-like device was developed through Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) for use in Afghanistan and Iraq by American soldiers for communicating with locals who spoke Farsi, Dari, Pashto and other languages. It is now being used as one tool to help keep the peace between English and non-English speakers by police departments in California, Florida, Nevada. In a nutshell the $2,500 ruggedized Phraselator runs an Intel PXA255 400mHz processor that supports a built-In noise canceling microphone, a VOCON 3200 Speech Recognizer, 1GB removable SD card, 256MB of DRAM Memory and 64MB Flash Memory. It can store up to 10,000 phrases."

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  1. What could possibly go wrong? by Token_Internet_Girl · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I thought she was asking for sex, turns out she just wanted directions to the 7-11. Oopsies!"

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  2. This is horrid by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary is the first 3 paragraphs of the article and, not surprisingly, fails to summarize the article. So when you actually go and read the article you get the feeling that maybe it is an example of how poor automatic translation is, as the article has incredibly horrid grammar.. to the point that the whole second half of the article makes no sense.

    Oh, and when you finally do figure out what the hell this article is about, it's boring as hell.. who cares about a mobile language translator device with text-to-speech that doesn't even do speech recognition? Travelers have been able to pick up such technology for $50 for a decade now.

    Yawn.

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    1. Re:This is horrid by ichbineinneuben · · Score: 4, Funny

      It included the processor and the clock speed, just what do you want???

    2. Re:This is horrid by ZzzzSleep · · Score: 4, Informative

      You could try this blog post in Wired. But I don't know that it's much better.

    3. Re:This is horrid by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahh, but you still have the problem of pronunciation, which Americans find impossible.

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    4. Re:This is horrid by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It also seems a bit overdone for the purpose. Cops investigating an "incident" need very basic information (who, what, when, where, how). When I was in the U.S. Army, we had "pointee-talkee" cards with common questions/answers printed in English and in whatever local language. The questioner pointed to a phrase in English on the card, and the respondent read it in his own language printed immediately beneath. Respondent then pointed to the appropriate response in his language, and the questioner then read it in English.

      Very low tech and surprisingly effective, although the shortcomings are obvious.

      Still, an electronic translator can introduce problems of its own, as previous posters have pointed out. I remamber back in the 1970s some agency trying to develop a computer translator. They fed it the phrase: "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." The translator computer rendered: "The wine is acceptable but the meat is underdone."

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  3. Phraselator? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    VoxTec's marketing department should be summarily dismissed for coming up with that one.

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    1. Re:Phraselator? by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's the US Government (and the military no less)!!! You can sell anything to them, no matter how poorly marketed, expensive, or functional it is, especially if it ties in with the "war on terror"

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    2. Re:Phraselator? by DFIE · · Score: 5, Insightful

      we have one in my platoon. did we use it at all in the 15 months we were in iraq? nope! why? interpreters work better and stop bullets.

    3. Re:Phraselator? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      interpreters work better and stop bullets.

      You must have gone through a lot of interpreters.

    4. Re:Phraselator? by dalleboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do they really have their own dead Jim?

  4. One Way Tool? by Faizdog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is pretty good, but it still doesn't solve the problem that the officer can't understand the other individual. This could lead to some problems. Now, an officer may wait for backup that speaks the language, or proceed forward knowing that he/she cannot understand the other person and vice-a-versa.

    Now, due to this device, officers could think they are making themselves clear, and behave differently, (i.e. I said get down, and I said it in your language, now get down or I shoot), but the other side could be saying something important and can't be understood.

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    1. Re:One Way Tool? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

      And what's really stupid is that there are commercial devices available which are bidirectional for under US$600. Sounds like great US military spending.

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    2. Re:One Way Tool? by adminstring · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or better yet, they could just use a simple, inexpensive megaphone. Because everyone knows that if you just speak LOUDER and LOUDER, eventually you will reach a volume where the non-English-speaking person will finally understand you!

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    3. Re:One Way Tool? by hughk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If one looks at the average military procurement program the prime concern is not whether it works, just that there are enough retired senior military officers on the company's payroll. Note that PDAs have been used for some time by people like surveyors, construction workers and so on. These ruggedised versions are best to use for comparison purposes. Yes, they do cost more than a regular PDA, but that much?

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    4. Re:One Way Tool? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      This process is often described as making a piece of equipment "solder-proof"

      Nothing is impervious to my soldering. I can destroy anything.

  5. Can see some amusing things happening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Citizen: Someone's planted a bomb in there!
    Phraselator: "Somebody set up us the bomb."
    Soldier: What you say!!

  6. Good thing? by gotzero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not sure those two sides will want to know what the other is saying... Does it work two ways? It seems like it would be more helpful but also more cumbersome as a dialog.

  7. Doesn't work in every major city yet by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The reason they're not using it in all major cities is simple,... it won't translate jive . So it's useless in the ghetto,... I guess we'll still have to look for little, old, white ladies that speak jive!

  8. Reminds me of Mars Attacks... by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Aliens: "Bak Bak, BaBa Bak Bak, BAK BAK BAK"

    Translator: "We come in peace, we mean you no harm!"

    "See? They mean us no harm!"

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    1. Re:Reminds me of Mars Attacks... by Megane · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ruri: "Baka, baaaaka."

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    2. Re:Reminds me of Mars Attacks... by RuBLed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny, it reminds me of an elevator conversation joke in our native tongue (Tagalog).

      The scenario is that a foreigner (english) and a native was taking a ride down the elevator and it stopped halfway down, the door opened and the native outside the elevator asked if it is going down. The native inside said Yes it is going down. The conversation goes like this...

      Native Outside Elevator: Bababa ba?
      Native Inside Elevator: Bababa.
      *Both natives understood each other*

      The root word is "Baba" meaning "down" or "under".
      Doubling the first syllable "Bababa" would mean continuing action as in "going down"
      Adding a word "ba" after an action denotes a question (like adding "ka" at the end in Japanese)

      So "Bababa ba?" means "Is this going down? (elevator)" to which the answer is an affirmative "Bababa." meaning "Yes it is going down."

      "Ba" is pronounced like the "ba" in "bat"

      The foreigner then asked if the natives just had a conversation :D

      How would this device fare against such scenarios. I dunno. There are so many possibilities when it comes to languages...

  9. Re:obvious by Radres · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now the police can safely ignore the Spanish equivalent of "Don't tase me, bro"!

  10. Re:I can just imagine it by QuickFox · · Score: 4, Funny

    "My hovercraft is full of eels"

    WHAT?? Let me explain. What this means is that the guy who wrote the comment is the owner of a hovercraft, and he's complaining that it's full of eels.
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  11. Re:Will it help them with speakers of other langua by TheGoodSteven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My guess is no. 10,000 phrases might sound like alot, but I can imagine that they would get used up very quickly. Sounds like the only application for this is for police to give commands. With the speech recognition software, not only would only a handful of people be able to use it, but they would also have to know the limits of the device, as far as how fast you can talk, what extent of a vocabulary it has, and so on.

  12. Popular phrase by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 3, Funny

    Todos son de su base nos pertenece
    Toutes vos bases sont nous appartiennent
    Ihre Basis sind gehören zu uns

    Al uw uitvalsbasis zijn bij ons horen
           
    Tutti sono la base appartengono a noi

    Toda a sua base são pertence a nós
           

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  13. Re:I can just imagine it by tkw954 · · Score: 4, Informative
    "A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal"

    For further information, please visit this page.

  14. Obligatory by jmac1492 · · Score: 5, Funny

    DON'T PHRASE ME BRO!

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  15. Noise canceling microphone? by croddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    What the hell is a noise canceling microphone?

    1. Re:Noise canceling microphone? by ChrisMP1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      What the hell is Wikipedia?

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    2. Re:Noise canceling microphone? by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

      A microphone for mimes?

  16. Re:I can just imagine it by ChrisMP1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Esperanto for it is wrong.

    Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj This suggests that your hovercraft is completely made of eels. Try "Mia kusenveturilo estas enspacita de angiloj."

    This phrase comes features in a sketch about a badly translated English-Hungarian phrasebook from the British TV comedy show, Monty Python's Flying Circus. Badly translated English-Esperanto phrasebook anyone?
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  17. Re:obvious by Myrcutio · · Score: 3, Funny

    i can imagine the translator going off at odd times,

    Police: "Freeze!"
    Criminal: "No mi gusta las fresa! No el tase yo!"
    Phraselator: "I don't like strawberries, you can't appraise me!"

    If only you could harness the power of awkward silences...

  18. H2G2 by LordHatrus · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> a VOCON 3200 Speech Recognizer
    A VOGON 3200 speech recognizer? Don't the Vogons use Babel Fish like the rest of us? :-)

  19. Re:obvious by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Using a taser does make the policeman's/soldier's job easier. When you tase someone, translations are simple: "AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH" is the English translation of "AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH" in Arabic. And Farsi, and Kurdish, and Najdi, and Khaliji, and...

  20. Re:One Way Tool? The price is high because... by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SOMEwhere in there is an embedded, county/parish/municipality based digitized asshole:

    Contempt Modes

    CM1 "SCUMBAG, get ON the GROUND NOW, or i WILL DROP YOU."
    CM2 "Turn the FUCK around. PUT your DAMNED hands UP."
    CM3 "FREEZE, MOTHERFUCKAH.*"
    CM4 "Don't FUCKIN' LIE TO ME, PEDRO/Patel/Nguyen/(sub a name you want)I'm gonna deport your ass."
    CM5 "Go back where you came from..."

    (As someone given false tickets at least 1 time by local police and TWO times by CHP, and nearly screwed by the judges on the case/docket, I can say contempt of cop is NOT something you want to engage in.)

    * (When I part-timed at Emporium in 1989 in Almaden (back then, mostly white, not Asian, neighborhood) there was a theft in progress. Loss Prevention (Caucasian) were in hot pursuit scaling and hopping escalators and chasing the suspects/shoplifters (Black) and not gaining on them. (They were WAY too fast to be caught). Angry, one of the shorter LP yelled "FREEZE, MOTHAFUCKA!! This thin, old, short white lady nearly fainted when she heard the words. I think she wasn't bothered by the hot foot pursuit. I think the profanity stunned her, hehehe...)

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  21. mHz? by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    PXA255 400mHz

    I don't know, maybe they should get one of them new-fangled Intel chips that's rumored to do a full processor cycle in *under* two seconds?

  22. Re:obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Translation of "AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH" from other common languages:

    Russian: "You are correct, I should not have been reading that book, comrade."

    German: "I apologize for being too Jewish, and will now board the crowded yet impressively prompt train."

    Canadian: "Oh darn. Iced the puck again."

    Japanese: "I believe the voice actress for my favorite anime is making an appearance nearby."

    French: "My cheese!" or "You appear to be trying to add a non-French word to the French language", depending on context.

    American: "It appears my Tivo did not record this week's episode of Lost."

    Mandarin: "Hello."

    "Australian": "Crikey, look at the size of that stingra--"

    Jamaican: (nobody has ever heard this phrase from a Jamaican)

    Anybody left I didn't offend?

  23. We're making INCREDIBLE progress.. by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...like all translation devices up to day:

    Police: Ok Stan, this is a dangerous situation but our new Phraselator 4000 will deal with the situation, just talk into the mike:

    Stan: Everything will be just fine, just drop your weapons.
    Phraselator 4000: Every Bill be Your time, you topless weapon.
    Terrorist: Allah will punish you, infidel!
    Phraselator 4000: Allah will puke you, insurance!
    Stan: (looks at the other officers and talks)
    Stan: This is your second and final warning, drop down your weapons - NOW!
    Phraselator 4000: Piss is your semicolon and finally warm, top down groove you weapon - HOW?
    Stan: I don't think this is working, sir...
    Phraselator 4000: I don't think, piss is lurking, sir...
    Stan: Will you shut that useless piece of cr*p down!!
    Terrorist: In soviet russia - camel piss on you!

    (*everyone fires their guns, Phraselator 4000 has saved the day - once again*)

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  24. But can it handle cultural references? by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Darmack and Gillard at Tenagra! Shaka, when the walls fell.

  25. Re:obvious by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Funny

    French: "My cheese!"

    French: "Quick, my emergency white flag!"

    Ha and I'm French so somehow you can't mod that flamebait!

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  26. Re:obvious by loganrapp · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just nuked everyone I could. I'll let you guess which civilization I chose.

  27. Why translation is hard by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Translating between related languages (such as western European languages which all derive mostly from Latin) is often a case of translating each word and re-arranging the sentence a little. It might sound a bit funny but will convey the meaning. Thus, all the translation software needs is a dictionary and some rules about converting word order in sentences.

    Translating between unrelated languages, such as English to Japanese, is much harder. Not only are the words different, but so are all the forms for expressing ideas. In English you might say "John is here", but in Japanese you would effectively say "as for John, here exists." In English you say "John has that book," in Japanese it becomes "at John that (other) book exists." (In Japanese you can say "that book you have" or "that other book", but just generally "that book".) The translation software has to actually understand the meaning of what is being said, in order to re-phrase it in the context of the target language.

    In fact, you do get a bit of that even in European languages. For example, in English we say "I am lost," but the French say "I have lost myself."

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  28. Re:I can just imagine it by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's it! I've had it with these motherfucking eels on this motherfucking hovercraft!

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  29. Re:obvious by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 2

    Cantonese: "Hey! Get out of the way! The brakes in my tank don't work!"

    Hindi: "Why the hell do people keep forgetting about us?! There's a couple billion of us and we have nukes, dammit!"

    Arab: "Holy crap! I think I just saw a glimpse of female flesh, I must stone her to death and then put out my eyes!"

    African: "Whoa! Cheap, brightly colored laptops for children!"

    That ought to round out your list a bit.