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News Of SETI Signal Just Bad Reporting

The Bad Astronomer writes "Rumors have been flying in recent days that the SETI project has received a strong signal from space, indicating the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life. Bad Astronomy breaks down the origins of this (false) claim, which mostly amounts to a heaping helping of shoddy journalism. 'I just talked to Dan Wertheimer, the astronomer quoted in the article. He told me that the original interview was about sending signals into space (so-called active SETI) as opposed to just listening for aliens. After the interview, he talked to the reporter about some of the astronomy he does, including looking at what are called radio transients: bursts of radio waves that are seen once and never repeat. These may come from one-off events like colliding neutron stars, exploding stars, and so on. Somehow, in the article the reporter mixed up the observation of the transient signals with detecting a signal from E.T.'"

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  1. Welcome by S.O.B. · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcome our incompetent journalist overlords.

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    1. Re:Welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well sure, you read Slashdot, don't you? :)

    2. Re:Welcome by S.O.B. · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, that would be our "dupe overlords".

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  2. Conspiracy by Freeside1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It really was alien, but the aliens are already here, and they're covering it up so they can terraform our planet with global warming.

  3. Incompetence by nonsequitor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.

    That saying proves itself everyday. I know most people don't understand science, but if you are reporting on it at least pay attention long enough to accurately report what you were told by someone who does understand. Why do people think it's ok to be proud of their ignorance? Its one thing to own your weaknesses having tried and failed, but it seems like most non-technical people stopped trying.

    1. Re:Incompetence by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I had a brief stint as a journalist - I always repeated back to my sources what I understood them to mean.

      They often corrected me.

      When I did a feature on a person, even a critical piece, I would send a draft to them before I submitted the article - usually there were no corrections - but when there were - they were vital.

    2. Re:Incompetence by B3ryllium · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I see why your stint was short. You were a good journalist, rather than an idiotic sensationalist one ... there's just no market for that any more. :(

  4. The trouble with Journalists... by thewils · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is that they aren't likely to let the facts get in the way of a good story.

    It also pisses me off greatly when newsreaders append their own opinion to the end of a news story. You are a newsreader dammit. Just supply the facts and let people make up their own mind - that is if it is possible for you to supply the facts without your personal bias in the first place.

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  5. The original article by hugecabbage · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the cached article: Has E.T. Made A Call? [Google]

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  6. links to cached article by The+Bad+Astronomer · · Score: 4, Informative

    At the bottom of the blog post I put a link to the cached article, and I took a snapshot of it which is on my Flickr account. It's all linked on the blog.

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  7. Journalism by doconnor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with journalism is that journalists tend to report on so many different topics, they often don't really understand them. It's like if a programmer was given a totally different assignment every day. Even the best one couldn't do a good job because it would take weeks for them to understand how things work and all the terminology.

    Ideally, instead of relatively few full time journalists, they should have many part time journalists who work full time in the industry they report on. The quality of the writing might suffer a bit, but it would be far more accurate.

    Fortunately, we are seeing the rise of blogs where there are many people who know what they are talking about.

    1. Re:Journalism by The+Bad+Astronomer · · Score: 3, Informative

      I agree. It's very easy now to find, for example, astronomy news on blogs where the author knows what they are talking about (cough cough). Universe Today is a great example, and there are many others. The mainstream media have shot themselves in the foot over the past few years; very few have any dedicated science reporters, but the public *likes* science stories. So folks turn to teh intertoobs, and I for one welcome our new public overlords.

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    2. Re:Journalism by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 3, Informative
  8. Re:Next assignment by Pojut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was 16 (I'm 23 now) I did a one year stint in a McDonalds. I don't know if it's the same now as it was then, but when I was working there the boxes that the meat came in were all stamped USDA Grade A Beef. The problem is that for potential lawsuit reasons, McDonalds cooks all it's burgers to well done. When I worked there, for my dinner I would make one medium rare. This will sound crazy, but when they are cooked right (at least back then...again, don't know if this applies now) it made for one of the best burgers I've had anywhere.

    The beef is actually very high quality...it just gets cooked into oblivion (and cooked very quickly, at that...from walk-in refrigerator to ready-for-burger in about a minute and a half...not the best of ways to cook meat if taste is of any concern.)

  9. wishing by mugnyte · · Score: 4, Insightful


      The web, as a reflection of the population as a whole, is chock full of wishful thinking about fantasies. The youtubes seemed to be clogged with "evidence" of UFOs, angels, monsters, ghosts, etc.

      Frankly, it's a little disappointing to see a lack of critical thinking. I'm all for discovering amazing new things, in any topic. But defending the stories wholesale under the guise of "how can you deny all the evidence?" kinda paints a picture of cultist mentality. Somewhat scary and journalists are not immune. They just want something that sounds like a "scoop" and grab the eyeballs (and sell the ads).

      SETI is a worthwhile endeavor to me, but of course they'd hold a press conference if something big didn't filter away.

    1. Re:wishing by southpolesammy · · Score: 3, Insightful


      So remember when your feeling very small and insecure,
      How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
      And pray that there intelligent life somewhere up in space,
      Cause theres bugger all down here on Earth.

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  10. Not to worry... by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Should the reporter get fired, he has a great future as a Slashdot editor.

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  11. What really bothers me about this by Phylarr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is that you know the reporter will keep his job. If you're dumb enough to misinterpret by that degree the words that someone spoke to you, then you should have no job reporting on anything.

    The article actually contained the sentence "Across the globe, researchers searching for signs of life in space were abuzz this week with word that a mystery signal has been picked up by a giant radio-telescope in Puerto Rico."

    This was not just a science neophyte failing to understand big sciency words, this was a reporter blatantly making shit up.

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  12. Re:Must be aliens by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "actual alien contact could spin it all out of control and everyone goes apeshit for a while"

    no it wouldn't. Not at all, please stop spouting Hollywood nonsense.

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  13. Re:No wonder by Bombula · · Score: 3, Informative
    I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here (imagine a journalist doing that...). This guy said he referred back to his sources for accuracy in data-collection, which is tantamount to accuracy in reporting. Yes, it's great if you can do this all during the interview, but going to press afterwards with reckless disregard for the facts is hardly "letting a source control the story." Moreover, the idea that the journalist 'controls' the story is asinine in itself. In the parent article about SETI, the journalist was obviously 'controlling' the story - thanks to his own moronic misunderstanding of the facts of the situation. I don't know about most readers here, but that's not my idea of quality journalism. Get the facts straight, understand what you're talking about, and fact-check your goddamn articles before you go to press. If that means clarifying a source's information after the interview, whether it's their quotations or the concepts behind them, then so be it: the telephone and wikipedia are your friends.

    A good journalist reports the facts accurately and objectively, even if it means going back to get something you missed or muddied during the interview. And the only thing controlling the story should be the truth. If you believe anything else, you're nothing but a hack whose willing to peddle any old dogshit for a moment in the limelight - the world doesn't need any more of those kinds of people.

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