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MacBook Air's Battery is Actually Easy to Replace

pizzach noted that the MacBook Air battery is actually fairly easy to replace. "All it requires is a philips screwdriver. Unlike some of Apple's other products, the battery is not so soldered in which should make a lot of people at least a little bit happier." I think I'll have to wait for something with a bigger screen and a faster clock speed.

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  1. Keep waiting by adamwright · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want big screens and fast clocks, I'd conjecture you're not the market segment the Air is aimed at. Have you considered a Macbook Pro?

    1. Re:Keep waiting by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have to work with some gawdawful Windows IDEs that were clearly designed for a 21" monitor or bigger. So I can't get by with anything less than a 17" notebook. Even so, I'm always fussing with nested split panes.

      Even a good IDE, like Eclipse, probably would be hard to use on anything less than a 15" monitor.

      If I was working in Emacs, or if all I had to do was office type tasks, 13" would be plenty for me.

      Every notebook is a set of compromises. Bigger screens (and faster processors) require larger batteries or shorter battery life, or both, along with greater weight. Tiny screens means much less weight, and greater convenience when you are doing things like trying to fit your laptop and coffee onto a cafe table. I suspect 15" to 17" is a good compromise for most people who need laptops.

      But it is also true that any design that excels in some dimension is bound to be better for some people. I'd like a 20" laptop, because of the software I have to use. When I was traveling a lot, searching for an outlet at the airport was often a big deal, but if I could afford a 20" laptop, I'd just buy a spare battery. I'm a 250 pound weightlifter, and also an extremely light packer, so the space and weight is nothing for me.

      On the other hand, small and light would outweigh other considerations for other people. A 98 pound woman whose travels a lot is going to look at a 20" laptop weight eighteen pounds as an exercise in lugging 20% of her body weight through the airport. For her a MacBook air, at 3 pounds, is actually a heavier load a percentage of her body weight than a typical 17" laptop is for me.

      There are people who would love this thing for its low weight and the convenience of a small package. Even I would find it convenient, if it weren't for the software I have to use.

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    2. Re:Keep waiting by hey! · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damnit, i forgot to mention, i got the thing for free from someone, so yeah, didnt have to pay for it... made my own power cable. And yes, i have young eyes... i'm only 22


      You bastard! If you have a trust fund and are only working to amuse yourself, I don't want to hear about it.
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  2. I don't mean to troll but... by toppavak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't the whole point of the 'Apple experience' to never have to do something like open up your laptop's case with a screwdriver?

    1. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by Yetihehe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you understand? Steve just tries to entertain mac users and show them new and innovative things (like screwdrivers).

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    2. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Like the iPods, the mechanics (structure) involved to make the battery as easy to remove as say, the macbook, would add a significant amount to the size of the unit. The battery latch on the macbook is roughly the size of a nickel. Would you like your ipod to be 1/8" thicker just to add a latch for the battery?

      For apple, a BIG selling point is it's the thinnest thing going for anywhere near those specs. Adding a latch is NOT worth losing that bragging right.

      Also you'd have to consider adding casing for the battery since its no longer considered always protected inside the shell of the computer, so that adds both size and weight. The iPod's internal battery has an "outer case" of foil, hardly suitable for consumer handling. And the connector needs to be something that can handle many hundreds of uses, not just a few. That connector again adds size and some weight. The external battery connectors that apple uses are actually pretty big, and I'd be willing to bet you can't find that much unused space in the Air.

      And considering the claimed battery life, it almost erases the need to carry a spare battery.

      My watch has a battery that I can't replace myself. I have to take it into the store for them to crack it open because it's a diver's watch and requires a special tool to unscrew the back cover. Does this bother me? no. I expect it. Your car needs the transmission serviced after so many miles, and that's not considered a user-maintenance thing either. There are many more examples. It's not like you throw it away when the battery goes out... Now THAT you would have room to complain about.

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    3. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by toppavak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Like the iPods, the mechanics (structure) involved to make the battery as easy to remove as say, the macbook, would add a significant amount to the size of the unit. The battery latch on the macbook is roughly the size of a nickel. Would you like your ipod to be 1/8" thicker just to add a latch for the battery? I completely understand what you're here, I was just trying to make the point that proposing this 'solution' to assuage peoples' concerns about not having a swappable battery is a little... disingenuous to the ideal of the Mac as easy to use. If someone doesn't want to buy a Mac cause they can't swap batteries, being able to swap batteries by opening up the case isn't going to change that.

      And considering the claimed battery life, it almost erases the need to carry a spare battery. For a lot of people, I can see this being the case, but equally not the case for many other people that want ultraportables. A 5 hour battery life on a 16 hour flight would be a bit... lacking. Not to mention people that travel to underdeveloped regions. Especially considering the 5 hour rating is probably the max not the minimum. I'd much rather have a slightly larger laptop (like a thinkpad X61) with the oversized battery giving 10 hours of juice and keep the original 5 hour battery in my bag for emergencies.
    4. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by Murphy+Murph · · Score: 5, Insightful

      These Sansa e200 things have these neat little beveled screws that add approximately .04 microns to the width of the device. I actually WOULDN'T want a latch on my MP3 player that disengaged the battery, thank you very much. But beveled screws...I'm so excited about where this new technology will take pioneers like Apple!


      The Sansa E200 series actually proves the grandparent's point.
      The Sansa E200 series contains the three most-requested features the iPod Nano lacks:
      FM radio.
      Expansion card slot.
      Easily swappable battery.

      What do we get?
      A device almost exactly twice as thick as the thickest Nano.
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    5. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >Even an external USB battery expander would defeat the purpose of an ultraportable- it'd be a little awkward to have a brick sticking out of the side of your sleek sexy ultra thin Air.

      in that case, surely having a swapable battery would also defeat the point as you'd be carrying another battery with you everywhere.

      I genuinely can't understand the mentality of all these people who claim to be constantly going on 10+ hour flights with no access power sockets and want an ultraportable laptop but also want to carry the weight of several spare batteries.

      post screenshots of your airline tickets or you're all a bunch of whining fucking liars.

      personally, I don't care about swapping batteries because I never want to carry a spare with me anyway. if a slimmer design means having to visit a store in person every 2 years or so to have it changed, then get over it or buy a different laptop.

    6. Re:I don't mean to troll but... by /ASCII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The gist of the second half of your post seems to be that the main problem with the Air is that it doesn't fix every single problem and complaint that people of today has with laptops. It doesn't have to. There is a market for different laptops with different tradeoffs. Personally, I value small and light very highly, so I'd definitely consider buying an Air if I hadn't bought a pretty sweet computer 6 months ago. But I may very well beuy an Air 2.0 in a year or two.

      BTW, we have 5 X61s at work, and with the oversized battery they get more like 7 hours. Not that much more than the claimed 5 hours from the air, and the oversized battery is OMG HUEG!1!!

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  3. Something bigger/faster by erebus24 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think I'll have to wait for something with a bigger screen and a faster clock speed. You means something like a MacBook Pro? I think one of us is missing the point of the MacBook Air.
    1. Re:Something bigger/faster by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What *is* the point.

      What market segment up until now were saying to themselves "If only this laptop was exactly the same size but *thinner*"

      My boss travels a lot on airlines and was waiting for an ultraportable macbook. He wanted one *smaller* - that could fit nicely in the limited space on airline seating in the way a normal laptop won't. This doesn't either.. so it's a missed opportunity.

      The other thing he asked for - solid state disks (hard disks don't last long if you fly a lot) - was answered, but he won't be getting the Air.

  4. convenient mail-in replacement by backslashdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    They also mention you can have it replaced for $129 by mailing it in. Ahh, that must be why Steve Jobs showed us that it fits in a manila envelope. How convenient!

  5. Swapping batteries, not replacing is the point by manekineko2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this is missing the point behind the main thrust of the complaints. Most of the people complaining about it (at least here on Slashdot) have been the mobile road warriors who are worried about it running out of juice while traveling, rather than the battery wearing out after 2 years and needing replacement.

    It would appear at first that Apple's ultra thin and light missed its target market; after all, the main market for ultra thin and lights has traditionally been mobile road warriors. However, the lack of a swappable battery and of a wired LAN port (my company, and most I have been to, as well as many hotels I have stayed at, don't even have a wireless network option) make clear that mobile road warriors aren't the target market.

    The target market is in fact fashion conscious users, and students, and others whose requirements are a sexy form factor.

    I don't think that weight is necessarily even _that_ significant a factor here. Steve Jobs made clear if I recall correctly that he was willing to increase weight to decrease thickness. Thickness has no particular use other than sex appeal, footprint is actually more significant in terms of usefulness when it comes to size. In terms of weight, there have been other laptops that are significantly lighter yet retaining key features like a wired LAN and swappable battery. The entire point of this laptop is how thin and awesome looking it is.

    1. Re:Swapping batteries, not replacing is the point by kaan · · Score: 4, Informative

      $29 buys you a tiny usb dongle with an RJ-45 port for wired lan. It's listed on the accessories section of store.apple.com.

      As for the battery needs, I'm a business user and while I do agree that extended batteries are nice, I don't think it's the norm that you need 8 hours of battery life without a single power outlet nearby. Where are you using your computer for that long that you're not near an outlet once in a while? I typically need stretches of several hours, possibly as much as 4 hours from time to time, but never much more than that. The people I know who have the extended battery packs seem to use them just because they can, not because they need to.

      I think the integrated battery decision is possibly market-limiting to the users who really do (for some reason) need 8 hours of battery life, but not nearly as limiting as you suggest. Overall, a simpler design has positive aspects in that Apple can spend time making features that most of their target users will benefit from, they can also get the product to market faster and lower R&D costs building it.

      This reminds me a lot when the iPod first came out. Most people just couldn't say enough bad things about it. Too simple. No features. No replaceable battery. Too expensive. But the core comptency of the iPod hasn't really changed that much over the years: it lets you organize your music in a really simple way, and find any song fast. When it comes down to it, if you can't find your music easily, you're far less likely to use the device. And if you don't use it, every other "neato" feature is irrelevant because it'll be sitting in your desk drawer.

  6. Re:Good news, everyone! by phoenix321 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To repeat myself and others: "I think one of us is missing the point of the MacBook Air."

    Or in other words, using a car metaphor, of course: "Nobody will ever buy a Porsche, because it's got only two seats and a minimal trunk space. For 50'000 EUR *less*, you'd get four seats, a pickup-sized cargo bay AND as much horsepowers, so the Porsche is clearly bad value." :)

  7. They don't get it by Dasher42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a certain crowd that's criticizing the MacBook Air a lot for what it leaves off, and I don't think they get what you want with a subnotebook. I likewise wonder what they think of the EeePC.

    There's a diversity of needs in personal computing, and at one end you have the gamers who want highly upgradable components and to cram everything they can into a 600-watt beast with fans whining. Fine, okay, but my own preference is that I'd rather not share my living space with that. The next is the quiet low-profile desktop, and Apple's doing that kind of thing very recognizably with the iMac and Mac Mini. There are PC systems like the shuttle. Then there are desktop-replacement laptops with enough GPU for gamers and CPU for number crunching. And now there are subnotebooks. Cite whatever midpoints or extremities you want, these are the relevant ones.

    Most web/email/office use is simply best done on something like an iMac if you're stationary, or a laptop. Those of us who value quiet and energy efficiency will more and more choose this route. The real junkies among us have not one, but several machines. After a while, it gets annoying if they're all identical configurations. You don't want to pack a DVD and a monster peripheral set into your subnotebook - that's for basic needs on the go! Leave your movie collection at home, say, on a nice Kurobox or some other NAS. You don't need multiple DVD burners. You can get disk images off your NAS. Back it up with a Time Capsule or roll your own.

    I like my network of specialized machines. It makes choosing an operating system and hardware configuration a matter of the right choice for the job. I think most of the criticism of the MacBook Air comes from the 600W desktop beast crowd that has everything in one or two boxes. Well... they'll come around.

  8. I think calling some people retarded by crovira · · Score: 4, Insightful

    neither makes your point nor endears you to the boss (who's daughter IS quite probably the target demographic for this little gem.)

    Just say its not for you because of (yadda, yadda, yadda), and suddenly, you find that not even you want to read your opinion.

    I'm not buying one because of my needs for something more substantial, but those are MY needs. They aren't for everybody.

    Apple
    got everybody to switch 5"1/4 disketes for 3"1/2 by giving them no option (and everybody predicted disaster,) them he
    got everybody to switch to USB by giving them no option (and everybody predicted disaster), then
    got rid of the diskette drive altogether by giving them no option (and everybody predicted disaster,)
    then he got everybody to switch to writable CDs (and now DVDs) by giving them no option.

    Now he's getting rid of CDs and DVDs altogether and moving storage into appliances and services; by giving them no option.

    Wake the fuck up.

    The machine YOU'RE using as a road warrior would still be taking up all of your desk space if it wasn't for Steve Jobs' sheer balls.

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  9. Re:Nibbled to death by ducks... by linuxwolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe you should have tried reading the "What's in the box" section:

    • Micro-DVI to DVI adapter
    • Micro-DVI to VGA adapter

    That lets you connect an Off-the-shelf MacBook Air to anything you can connect an Off-the-shelf MacBook Pro.

    I'm not saying you won't get nibbled to death in other places (*cough* iTunes rentals *cough*), but this isn't one of them.

  10. Re:Doesn't really matter by wfolta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, if you've got to carry several spare batteries because you will be using your laptop for extended periods in areas that don't have power, it won't kill you to carry a few extra pounds in the form of a MacBook or MacBook Pro.

    Second, exactly where will you be that power is inaccessible? Coffee shop? Plane? Train? Boat? Car? Airport? This is the 2000's and power is accessible in almost all of these places.

    Third, this is a continuation of the complaints of years past where people lamented the disappearance of 5.25" floppies, then 3.5" floppies, etc. It's a wireless world now (and Apple has introduced other products to make this even more-so), and it's a world with power accessible in many places you would have never had it before. In fact, I can think of very few places that I've taken my laptop in the last couple of years where I had to run off of battery power by necessity. (Convenience, yes. I like the view here and there's no plug near, but necessity, no. There's a plug 30 feet away.)

    Fourth, I return to my first point. If you want great gas mileage, don't buy a Porsche. If you maximal cargo space, don't buy a Cooper. If you want acceleration, don't buy a Prius and then complain that you can't add Nitrous Oxide and a Supercharger. The proper tool for the proper task, so if you want to work with your data with a highly portable machine with a large (for its class) screen and total wireless capability, get an Air.

  11. Re:Lame? by cyfer2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And what's the chance that he thinks a Nomad is better?

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  12. There are probably going to be battery options... by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's pretty simple, really. The magnetic charge port. Apple can offer a battery pack that recharges the Air's battery, extends operating time, etc. It would be just like the AC power supply except it would run off of DC. It could still run with typical laptop batteries (Li-ion and such) for high power densities but it also wouldn't need to be some oddball configuration that drives up manufacturing costs. It could be a basic brick more or less.

    The Air has a power port. Getting extra run time when on aircraft without power plugs, etc, is nothing more than supplying power to the power port.

    Efficiencies also depend on how Apple configured the power port. With just a little forethought, they could have made it where a portable power pack (i.e. auxiliary battery) just runs the Air itself and doesn't recharge the onboard battery. That would be more efficient than accepting charging efficiency losses and the only down side would be having to carry an assembly with cord instead of just an extra battery. A fairly acceptable compromise to trying to make removable batteries in such a tight form factor.

  13. other whiner stoppers by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) there's an adapter for airline seat jacks so you don't need that second battery
    2) theres a Ethernet jack dongle for the USB so you can plug it to a hard line
    3) there's a mini multiple USB hub so you can put in plenty of things
    4) it has blue tooth (and wifi N) built in so your blue tooth mouse or pointer does not need a jack.
    5) it's gotta honk'in large cache so the 4800 rpm disk is not going to be that big a drag (afterall the macbooks and mac mini are only 5400 rpm and have smaller caches)

    It's not a supercharged photoshop engine given the slower disk and lower end graphics and 13.3 inch screen of course. That's what the8 cpu macpro is for.

    But it's two pounds less than a macbook and you don't need an oversized breifcase or book bag to take it a along. I could see this as a lot easier to schlep around at conferences than may macbook pro. And with it's ultra-fast wifi it's gonna be a lot easier to keep synched than the usual cable clumsiness.

    The 13.3 inch screen is also a much nicer form factor than the 15 or 17 for airplane seats. PLus it's a wide screen not a SVGA shaped screen to it's not as tall. And it has a back lit KB that the macbook lacks.

    Basically the mac book is for college kids and teachers. The air is for bussinessmen and conference goers and people who like aesthitics in the house.

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