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The Anatomy of Money-Mule Scams

Brian Krebs of the Washington Post's Security Fix blog has up an article on work-at-home money mule scams (backgrounder blog post here). These operations offer victims hundreds or thousands of dollars per week for moving money through their own accounts — a critical piece of the infrastructure for profiting from identity theft and phishing. The article links to the site of a UK fraud fighter named Bob Harrison, who lists hundreds of fradulent money-mule operations.

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  1. I have been trying by El+Lobo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I have been trying for months to be selected by one of those scammers just for fun and to investigate the whole process. I answer every single strange letter from generous companies, rich princes, ex-gobernants of obscure countries, etc. I replay, playing a stupid character, and get so long as getting a few replies. Then, without a reason, they get absolutly silent.

    I don't know if they get caught or if they just smell that something is fishy, but I guess they are smart and they are searching for a given profile: not too smart, not too dumb, just right....

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    1. Re:I have been trying by BillGod · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have been trying this myself for a long time. I have responded to every email I have ever gotten. None have ever contacted me back. I would love to see what I can torture them with. If no one has seen this you have to go hear. www.419eater.com Some of the things they make them do is hilarious.

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    2. Re:I have been trying by mdonley · · Score: 2, Informative

      Be sure to check out the approach used in the "My Butterfly Guy" rouse used by some very convincing scambaiters... Read through the whole story, it really is incredible how it all played out...

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    3. Re:I have been trying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I replay, playing a stupid character, and get so long as getting a few replies.

      I think that's your problem. They aren't looking for stupid people. They are looking for greedy people. You need to be suspicious and pretend to let your greed get the better of you. For example, say you don't trust them and want a higher cut. Read about the people caught in scams. If you read carefully, you'll see they aren't normally stupid, but greedy.

    4. Re:I have been trying by Icarus1919 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Try this: www.spamyourenemy.com

  2. I've been doing this sort of thing for years. by Shag · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm just a pawn in a complicated scheme to surreptitiously move money from my employers to my creditors. And there are thousands of others like me.

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    1. Re:I've been doing this sort of thing for years. by downix · · Score: 5, Funny

      never thought I'd be quoting Drew Carey...

      "we have a club, it's called EVERYBODY! We meet at the bar."

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  3. all for the easy buck by downix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That this scam can even work is a product of supplier-side economics. Where people don't have to work to get what they want. That it is all about me me me.

    Get rich quick schemes never are quick and they don't get you rich. never have, never will. Grow up and get a real job. Want to make $100k a year, go to college to earn that degree for a position that does make $100k a year.

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    1. Re:all for the easy buck by balsy2001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only get rich quick scheme that works is selling get rich quick schemes to idiots.

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    2. Re:all for the easy buck by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only get rich quick scheme that works is selling get rich quick schemes to idiots.
      Sounds funny, but that's what some people over here actually do. They post one of those "Work from home, set your own hours, make up to $4000 a month" ads. You contact them (usually on a cell phone nr.) and they'll ask you to send them $100 for a Starter Kit. This kit basically contains instructions on setting up your own "Work from home" scheme to scam others, by selling them your Starter Kits. In a strange recursive way, this scheme is not illegal here (NL) because the advice in the kit is sound and delivers exactly what was promised in the ad, namely a legal way to make money working from home.
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    3. Re:all for the easy buck by evilRhino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course, you'll probably have to take a loan to do this, so a good chunk of the first several years of your increased income is actually going to interest payments. Then you have to actually find the job you want afterwards, and hope they won't lay you off if they happen to lose that big contract. Great plan!

    4. Re:all for the easy buck by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The father of a friend of mine has spent his entire life chasing the big dollar that's always just over the next hill. When I first realized that, i found it rather amusing. But now I just find it rather sad to see.

      He has never really worked at anything for very long because there is always a bigger, better opportunity right over there instead. And he has managed to get started on some things that could possibly have developed into something eventually, but due to his short attention span they never get a chance to get off the ground.

      The last I heard of him was a year or so back when he was moving to yet another new town because money was just falling out of peoples' pockets there and he was going to offer some kind of unspecified services and collect some of that.

      It's too bad, really, because he's now got to be well over 60 years old now, and he still has pretty much nothing at all.

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    5. Re:all for the easy buck by tattood · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, I think (NAL) it's legal because there is an actual product being sold.....and you don't necessarily have the whole "piece of their action" thing going. Per the U.S. Federal Trade Commission:

      "Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure."
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  4. EBay is not a court of law by thehickcoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    EBay investigated, concluding that Monroe's phantom employer had tied her PayPal account to a fraudulent auction. The auction site's verdict: She was responsible for repaying the full amount to the blameless auction winner. Monroe is now working two part-time jobs to pay the bills and to make the other victim whole.
    Since when does EBay get to decide who is responsible for fraud?
    1. Re:EBay is not a court of law by BlueNoteMKVI · · Score: 5, Informative

      ....since you agreed to their Terms of Service.

      I'm too lazy to look up a citation at 7:30 in the morning, but the last time I looked over the PayPal TOS it pretty much said "we reserve the right to take money out of your account whenever we want to, and your only recourse is to ask us nicely to have it back. Say 'please' and we might consider it."

      Don't ever leave more money in your PayPal account than you can afford to lose.

      For what it's worth, I think a court of law would have agreed in this case that the woman was responsible. It's impossible to really say without details of the eBay auction in question, but she took the customer's money. What she did with it after that is not the customer's problem. If she took his money in exchange for a service/product that she could not provide, she owes the customer his money back.

    2. Re:EBay is not a court of law by BlueNoteMKVI · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know, replying to my own post is bad form - but I failed to mention that eBay now owns PayPal, so they are effectively one and the same.

    3. Re:EBay is not a court of law by torkus · · Score: 4, Informative

      They don't. But, as someone else mentioned the paypal TOS say they can basically take whatever money out of your PP account at will to cover whatever, whenever, at their discretion with no limits and your only recourse is binding arbitration. PP sucks. I hate them. They act like a bank with no limits, no rules, no recourse.

      That said, the solution to dealing with PP is simple. Never *ever* leave money in your PP account. Either don't link it to a bank account or use one with little to no money in it. Preferably link to your credit card - one with very friendly rules about reversing charges. PP will wipe out your account and push you negative ... but they're not going to get any money from your credit card. 'Blanket authorizations' are specifically prohibited by Visa/MC. You can not agree via PP TOS to allow them to hold your credit card as arbitrary security.

      I'm not advocating knowingly using the mule scams to actually make money - that's fraud and illegal.

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    4. Re:EBay is not a court of law by darkfire5252 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since when does EBay get to decide who is responsible for fraud?
      It's the latest trend in corporate liability. All they do is assure the consumer that they get to decide, and tell them that it would be upheld in a court of law and that the agreement is legally binding. Clueless consumer believes all the legalese being thrown at them, and the issue never goes to an actual courtroom. An actual judge would rule anything from Monroe is liable (for doing the actual act) to Paypal/Ebay is liable (because both the auction and the PayPal accounts are under their control and they didn't adequately protect against fraud) to the buyer is liable (for not adequately investigating the purchase). However, because Monroe bought the "Look at this thing we made you agree to, our word is legally binding" bit, it never goes to court and Monroe continues to believe the lie.

      It's no different than the dump trucks with the words "Not responsible for objects falling from truck" printed on the back of them. They are damn liable, but most people take the claim at face value and don't push the issue.
      IANAL, etc.
  5. Best fake check ever! by clonan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Last year I had someone send me a Money Gram money order to cash for something I was selling on craigslist. I was kinda suspicious when he asked to cash a check for more than I was selling the item for....

    Now I have sold stuff online for years and can usually spot a fake immediatly...This one I had to take to a bank to confirm!

    Someone had stolen a roll of blank money gram money orders and entered a valid serial number and everything. The only thing wrong was the micker ink. The numbers at the bottom of that check were standard ink, not magnetic...

    I still have that check on my fridge.

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  7. Typo in TFA by kryten_nl · · Score: 3, Funny

    Monroe was the victim of a "money mule" scam, in which criminals make use of third parties (often unsuspecting victims like Monroe) to launder stolen funds.
    That should of course be:
    ...(often absolute idiots who think that money grows on trees and don't know that when something seems to good to be true it usually is like Monroe)...

    Easy mistake to make, it's in Word's auto-replace list.

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  9. A vital part of the economy! by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would Monster.com even still exist if it weren't for scams like these?

  10. Re:Best fake check ever! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only thing wrong was the micker ink. I think you mean MICR ink. Magnetic Ink Character Recognition is sort of a precursor to OCR. Instead of using an optical scanner, the MICR numbers are printed in a special font with a magnetized ink or toner at the bottom of the check. The error rate is a LOT lower for MICR than OCR, which is why banks continue to use it.
  11. Another "no news" article? by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2006 called. They want their news back.

    This sort of operation has been going on for at the very least 2 years now. It's hardly "news". But it's stunning that there are still people who fall for that. Let's see... easy money, little to no work involved, shoving money around...

    Hello? Does anyone here NOT smell a scam? I still can't decide whether those people are just insanely stupid or whether they know very well what they're doing and just claim to be stupid in case they get busted (and they usually do get busted), as a get-out-of-jail card. After all, stupidity appearantly keeps you safe from prosecution.

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  12. Other End of the Money Transfer by Inexile2002 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've lived in Madrid for four years and have heard this story from several different people including an ex girlfriend.

    A tourist looking guy with an American accent will approach people on the street with a sob story about how was robbed or otherwise lost his trekking backpack and included in the loss was his passport and wallet. His mother is sending him a Western Union Money transfer, but he can't collect it without ID. He then asks if he can call the USA with your name and passport number, have the money wired to you (his mom is always "at the Western Union right now!"). You accept and collect the money transfer at zero cost to you - fees are paid on the other end, and then turn the cash over to this guy. I've heard the sum of 275 euros up to over 800. He even offers 50 euros to reluctant people.

    My ex-girlfriend fell for it, and then by coincidence bumped into the same guy two years later, so he's being doing this for a while. I didn't know her the first time she fell for it, but the second time she bumped into the guy, we both assumed it was something to do with drugs but now I'm guessing it probably had something to do with Money Mules.

    Interesting that they actually use intermediates on the other end at least some of the time.

    Also, The Money Mules would be a great name for an 90's cover band.

  13. Re:Best fake check ever! by clonan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Absolutly I accept other forms than cash. Craigslist is only really effective because it is all over the US for free...I have only done one local deal and it WAS cash. Requiering cash for non-local deals is a good way to not sell anything.

    My Experience
    I have found Paypal to be very good so long as you send to a confirmed address and get tracking. I have had several people try and argue it but once I send Paypal the tracking number the dispute goes away in my favor.

    Personal checks are riskier but I still haven't had that much of a problem. I always deposit them first and only ship once it has cleared. In over 1,000 check/money order transactions I have only had one bad check. And the check was bad for lack of funds. The person paid me immediatly with a money order plus my bank fee.

    Legit money orders are usually so easy to identify that I would ship "at risk" before depositing them. I have run across 4 people trying to pass off fake money orders and never lost anything to them.

    The grandparent is note worthy only because it was actually convincing in all but one detail.

    I have had well over 20,000 online transactions and by following the rules above I have had about 30 problems and never lost money on any of them.

    The moral of the story is:

    Online business is safe and effective for everyone involved so long as you don't do anything stupid like ship before confirming payment and always get tracking numbers.

  14. Next time by Chrisq · · Score: 2, Informative

    Give him the number to the US embassy. If he has really been robbed and lost his passport they'll help him out.

  15. Money and goods mules by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2, Informative

    In addition to money mules, there are also "goods" mules who help transfer fraudulently obtained goods overseas. The typical situation is: ID thief uses stolen card information to buy electronics from a "cardable" website (one which doesn't do a lot of checks on whether the person using the card is the real cardholder). The thief is based overseas, but knows that having goods shipped there might (at best) raise red flags and (at worst) lead the police right to them. So they convince some poor, greedy saps that they are helping out a small overseas company. The goods mules gets paid small sums to receive goods and then reship them.

    The particulars might differ based on situation, of course. I've heard of the scammers using images taken from Google Images to convince the mules that they (the scammers) are really a highly attractive woman who just so happened to have fallen in love with them and needs their help with her struggling business. Yes, people fall for this. Partly because the scammers are good at what they do and partly because some people are just greedy idiots. They mentally block out any red flags because of the promise of money.

    On one hand, the mules are really sad and pathetic. On the other hand, they get me mad because without them much of the identity theft/eBay fraud/stolen credit card purchases, wouldn't be possible (or at least would be much easier to track).

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  16. Paypal and eBay complicit by EmagGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is really appalling to me is how Paypal and eBay are seemingly exempt from the rule of law.

    If someone breaks into my house, steals my stuff, and puts it in their house, I am not allowed to just go into the thief's house and steal it back. I am required to give them the due process of law, file criminal charges, provide evidence to the prosecution, and let the jury decide.

    If criminal A breaks into the house of victim B, stashes the stuff in victim C's house before moving it to their own house, victim C's landlord can't just decree that victim C has to pay back victim B for the loss.

    This is exactly what paypal is doing.

    1. Re:Paypal and eBay complicit by torkus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Analogies...are painful and overused (and yes i'm using one below). I question the accuracy of the one used but the underlying point is dead on.

      If *I* break into someone's house, steal their jewlry and rape their cat I'm still afforded due process and the ability to plead my case before a judge. Paypal/ebay OTOH are the arbitrary investigators, judge, jury, and prison warden. You're then left chasing them down begging and pleading to overturn your sentence if you feel that it's wrong or unfair.

      To make it worse, the PP TOS specifically prohibits an actual trial/court case. You "agree" to binding arbitration in their local jurisdiction and non in-person (i.e. phone/fax/email/mail) arguments. If memory serves there's even a penalty clause if you file a lawsuit (and/or file one outside of their jurisdiction - such as in your own) and they have to show up. How is this even vaugely legal? I love our court system.

      Another example of big business >>> individual person. Pretty much no one is big enough to bring a useful lawsuit against PP/ebay to fix this mess. The exception is the lawyer looking to make his/her name and get a pay day. Still doesn't help the little guy.

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  17. Re:Best fake check ever! by canUbeleiveIT · · Score: 3, Funny
    If all else fails, take it to a bank and ask them to run it through their MICR reader before depositing it.

    This is a good idea and will help catch most frauds, but many people have access to a MICR check encoder. I worked for a Fortune 100 retailer and they had one in every store, and they were hardly kept under lock and key. Also, if one were an enterprising criminal, one might just buy one.

    Obviously, the ultimate (and very elegant) coup de grâce would be to buy it with a fraudulent check.